Ackchually my OS is GNU/Linux/systemd/Gnome/Fedora/Wayland/dnf/flatpak or something, did I forget one? idgaf
Colleague:
“I need to use Linux and my boyfriend suggested I use Ubuntu, is that right?”Me (screaming internally, deciding on whether to rant on bloatware, on Canonical, on reproducibility, on monetization, on many things wrong with the world, but not wanting to come off as an elitist, nor scare her off the idea altogether):
“… that, that should be fine.”I would say use Mint, I think nowadays that’s the better beginner distro. Actually it’s also kind of the pro-user distro. Fiddling around to tweak everything and get it just right is fun in your 20s, but when you need to work, have kids and a wife mint is fine 😛
You must drink alot
Chimera Linux?
Dinit ftw!
Why do you guys insist on calling it GNU/Linux? It’d be like if you called your car a V8, and some weirdo insists you call it “transmission/V8”
grabs mic I’d just like to interject for a moment.
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux
Thank you for your service.
I’d like to interject for a moment, what you are referring to as Mexico is in fact the United States of Mexico. A Federation Republic comprised of 31 free and sovereign States each with its own constitution, judiciary, and democratically election Congressional entity. The 31 individual and unique States form a Federation consisting of a bilateral Congress consisting of a Republic Senate and a Chamber of Deputies entrusted with creation of law, imposing taxes, ratifying treaties and international diplomacy. The Federal entity is further comprised of an Executive wing charged with enforcing the laws, emergency dictation and commanding the military. The third and final wing is a Judicial entity consisting of regional courts and a High Court of 11 jurist charged with interpreting any discrepancies that may between the Sovreign States or within the Law itself
So you can say Yucatan is Mexico, the same way Ubuntu is Linux. Or the same way people say Windows, instead of Microsoft Windows NT.
OP is technically correct, but that’s not how people express themselves in real life, there’s an unspoken understanding in the community that when someone says Linux (when talking in a general sense), there’s no way they are referring to the kernel only.
Linux is a name, not a description of the parts. It can mean just the kernel, or the entire family of operating systems, depending on the context.
It’s what we settled on, and there is no point in debating the name unless there is a real problem with it.
Just to be clear:
It was actually the young guy throwing the chair in the show. His text is supposed to be saying something angrily at that panel.
Yeah, that part of this meme didn’t make sense to me because of that… Like, he goes from calmly saying no big deal to yelling and throwing a chair in the middle of it for no reason?
laughs in gnu/hurd
What about OS with Linux kernel but no GNU stuff?
Android be like: bionic/linux
Right? Most of the time when I build linux I’m not using GNU because of its burdensome license. Realistically you usually don’t need most of the binaries anyway, and those you do like
echo
andls
are trivial to reimplement, at least for their common functionality.That might be difficult.
Linux was made to run GNU software, and is borderline part of GNU. GNU, likewise, is made open, much like the Linux kernel, so it can run on anything.
I don’t know of any software designed for the Linux kernel that doesn’t also expect GNU.
Look, all I’m saying is that the two are very strongly bonded, like hydrogen and oxygen in a molecule of water. It would take a lot of energy to separate them. Adding to them is pretty trivial, there’s a lot of things that are water soluble by default, but without specific conditions and a lot of energy, they won’t seperate easily.
Honestly, I think the only OS I know of that’s the closest to being Linux but not GNU, is Android.
Alpine Linux exists. But yeah, most of these projects pretty much do the same thing as their GNU counterparts, just outside the license.
Wayland can’t run on BSD as I’ve heard so GNU can’t run on anything, i may be wrong though, because my source is posts on internet, but as I’ve heard BSD users want x-server support to continue
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Lennox is HVAC
Alpine has no GNU.
it can has if you
apk add coreutils
“IT WAS COMPILED WITH GCC! THAT MEANS ITS STILL GNU!”
You can compile the whole kernel with clang now I think.
You wouldn’t call Windows GNU/WindowsNT if it was compiled with gcc, would you?
I’ve only been using Linux seriously for the last couple of years.
The way I see it, Linux is a kernel AND drivers, GNU is code that can be compiled to build a toolset used to daily-drive the kernel and a distribution is a assembly of kernel, drivers, tools and software (apps).
I’m sure that’s wrong but it makes sense to me.
The way I see it, Linux is a kernel AND drivers
Most drivers are part of the kernel, so yeah.
GNU is code that can be compiled to build a toolset used to daily-drive the kernel
No idea what that is supposed to mean. GNU is a set of specific software made by the Free Software Foundation, see https://www.gnu.org/manual/blurbs
Linus is a tech youtuber
That’s Sebastian, not Torvalds
Somewhere, Torvalds’ ears are burning
I think by lines of code I actually am running KDE/Firefox/GNU/Linux.
seeing your second last image text, I think you’re making it seem like those who call GNU/Linux ate pretentious, which is most often not the case.
I say GNU/Linux for ideological reasons. Even GNU website itself says not to force people about it. Debian’s official name is Debian GNU/Linux. So, it’s not about “sounding smart.” there’s more to it.
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