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i’ve been on Firefox in the last 8 years. i don’t even know what’s going on in Chrome and other browsers lol.
Same… I don’t understand the appeal of Chrome. I think they used a new java engine like 10 years ago and beat Firefox in a handful of benchmarks, and then Firefox conclusively and irreconcilably trounced Chrome a few months later, never letting up a bit.
I remember when they released Firefox Quantum. Too many tabs was never a problem again.
I mean I tried to download the official minecraft client for debian and was not able to on Firefox.
Microsoft disabled the site on non Chrome browser
user agent switching is fortunately not too difficult to do.
Are you sure? I just tested and after logging in, the option to download the launcher was there (popos/firefox).
Maybe my adblocker is the issue
This sounded weird to me, so I just tried it. Running Firefox on Kubuntu, I just downloaded it with one click from here.
Well didn’t work for me on debian
Just tried it myself and it doesn’t have any issues at all. It seems like it might be an issue with something else on your end.
Though honestly I’d strongly recommend against using the Official launcher as it has been known to introduce bugs and in general has poorer support for mods. I prefer the MultiMC forks like Prism, which don’t have the bugs the official one does.
I wanted sth that is updated by my system and the flatpak I found logged me in as a unsecure user or I had to login at each launch
haha what a cool recurring post
uBlock Origin
The best time was always.
I like how they mention Internet Explorer.
Internet explorer was the shit in 1992. That’s only 30 years ago, not everybody is quick to switch. 😜
There’s also an icon for Navigator, and none for edge. LOL
Maybe they needed an image that was out of copyright?Its biggest selling point was that it was bundled for free with Windows 98 while Netscape Navigator was still a pay-for product.
Yes apparently I remembered 3 years wrong according to Wikipedia, I am pretty sure we got Internet Explorer for Windows 3.11, as a separate free product, but Wikipedia states it was released with Windows 95 plus pack in 1995. So 28 years old not 30. But the plus pack although moderately successful cannot compete with being included with Windows 98. The last good Windows version, where you could boot to dos, and fix everything in Windows if they were broken. NT all the way up until Windows 11 sucks IMO. Bad design.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer
Any numbers from Mozilla about increase in usage or anything?
If you are concerned about things like PWAs like I was, try it out anyway. PWAs require a bit more setup, but are a lot more flexible in Firefox. For example, PWAs with http connections have a huge banner in Chrome, and just an icon in Firefox. Everything I’ve noticed is that firefox is just as snappy as Chrome
I thought PWA’s didn’t work on Firefox. That’s good to know, because I’ve been using chromium specifically for PWA’s.
Same here, I tried the PWAsForFirefox extension a few years back and found the setup to be too much of a pain in the ass compared to the Chromium forks. I tried again around 9-12 months ago when Manifest V3 drama was making the rounds and found the extension had been overhauled and that’s no longer a problem. As a bonus each PWA is a self-contained browser instance, so performance is improved when only the PWA is open, and extensions are per-PWA. So I can run only Purple Adblock on my Twitch PWA, or only uBlock for Youtube, etc.
Any idea how to get links clicked in a PWA like Google Messages to open in a normal browser tab? I’ve tried nothing.
Go to the PWA settings and enable “Open out-of-scope URLs in a default browser” and restart your PWAs.
I’m using them heavily as well. Mostly good. Painful though when moving between computers as you have to set them up on each one. If they can get it to sync eventually that’d be handy.
What PWA do you use? I think they’re a neat idea but I haven’t come up with an actual use case yet.
Gmail x2. Pulse SMS. Keep. Calendar. Whatsapp, Facebook, Messenger. All as task bar icons.
I used to use Chrome for this but every now and then it’d break and they would either open in the wrong profile, or they’d add a tab to the main browser rather than opening as a window.
I just use it for any tab which I always have open, so they’re organised on my taskbar. That way I don’t end up with 40 tabs of like 5 different websites that I just pathologically open up a new tab for each time I revisit, having to scan through them all each time I want to switch to find one from before. That’s an ADHD thing though. Effectively for some websites I want the tab to always be pinned and easily accessible with a large icon for a visual cue, and this way that all happens automatically
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Aesthetic and productivity. Which are good reasons.
Let’s say you access your company ERP system through a PWA, or the HR system. You want to alt tab back and forth to it like a regular app. You’re checking supplier data on the web and entering it on the system. It’s a lot easier to do so if your ERP is an app. But if it’s not available as a native app, PWA is a good alternative.
I mainly use them when I want something windowed but without tabs taking up space. Like monitoring my solar panels
Is that moon a browser?
I think it’s that :
I briefly used a version of that on a legacy application that needed flash, because it still supports it.
You are correct. I used it on older hardware due to how thin it is, but it has less manpower than more popular forks, so rendering of bloated websites, some of them needing their own workarounds coded in, can be slow and wonky. E.g. Xitter run, well, like xit.
In my former job, I had no choice but use Chrome due to work rules. If I couldn’t have installed uBlock at the time, it would have killed me. So I hope for people like me, there’s at least an adblocker that has a small chance of working in Chrome.
Vivaldi has an adblocker built-in but has no cosmetic filtering unfortunately. I did ask and they said it’s been prioritised given the MV3 problems.
If they were in my situation, installing another browser was not an option, but installing Chrome extensions was still possible.
In that case, it’s best to hope the workplace enables the enterprise policy.
Well that sucks.
I’m curious if “must use browser X” is a deal breaker for many people.
Would you quit a job for forcing a specific browser?
For me it was the OS. We agreed, when I started my job, that I would use Windows but that I would eventually switch to Linux, which I did a few months in. If they wouldn’t allow it, although agreed upon, I would have left - which I did anyways, but for totally different reasons
Without this fiasco, i would’ve still use chrome. Yeah, now i use firefox.
I used to use edge. Switched to Firefox and started using duckduckgo out of protest after my pal got screwed over by Google products
I love Firefox. Love it.
But I keep coming across sites that don’t function properly with it. Is this Firefox’s fault? No - Firefox follows standards nicely. But growing numbers of sites don’t, and this is a big problem at a micro and macro level.
Chrome seems to have such a foothold that it is getting away with embrace/extend/extinguish and I think it’s a very sad thing.
on desktop I don’t think I ever notice an issue, but on mobile it’s really noticable
I keep seeing this sentiment on these posts, often with a suspicious number of up votes that don’t seem to correlate how many up votes everything else in the topic get.
Literally the only place I have EVER seen this issue was a state toll road website, which was using a timezones that didn’t actually exist but chrome added (and documented on the Internet to trick people into using it). A simple email to the website with an explanation and the correct timezones name and the problem was fixed.
Pretty sure a lot of this sentiment is either astroturfing, or people passing on astroturfing trying to be helpful.
Yeah, I’ve been exclusively using Firefox dev edition for the last 2-3 ys. I can’t remember one site not functioning properly apart from the odd visual bug from time to time.
Typically banking sites for me. And a few others.
That’s such bullshit. People keep saying SO MANY SITES DONT WORK ON FOREFUX
with zero examples.
I see no examples. You’re making a ridiculous claim with no proof and I’m astounded at how many people believe you here.
I think someone needs a hug.
I still see only empty claims lawl
This is an especially common problem on Android. I have found many sites whose mobile version simply does not work in Firefox. It’s very frustrating.
Have you got an example I can test? I switched to Firefox mobile over a year ago and I can’t think of any time I’ve come across a site that didn’t work.
The most recent issue I had was Birds and Beans “manage subscription” page so I don’t think you can test that without a coffee subscription. But here is a screenshot:
I’m not sure why it says “nightly” as I’m on the stable version.
This isn’t Firefoxs fault though, is it? Just a bad Website putting arbitrary restrictions in place
Not Firefox’s fault at all. Just a website not following web standards.
I also feel their number grew in the last year. I’ve recently tried using Mull again (mobile firefox privacy-focused fork) after using Bromite for a year, and it was so unbearable I had to switch back. I’d say I had less websites that worked than ones that did not
Unfortunately tracker blocking can lead to even more issues as many sites have started relying on it for basic functionality.
I tried to bring this up as an issue back on Reddit, and I got downvoted into oblivion.
I think sometimes switching your use agent to Chrome can bypass some issues.
There is an addon that does this automatically.
Some pages load weird like a pop-up on mobile that should take over your view window is a side bar instead. Still fully functional but slightly harder to read.
But you know what makes it way harder to read? Ads
I’ve visited pages in Chrome without an ad blocker… Almost unusable, my eyes couldn’t even focus on what I actually needed to do.
I’m not sure if it’s better, or worse, than the cancer that was the dot come era. Pop-ups everywhere. Random fucking toolbars. So many toolbars. A clippy version of a titty dancer if you’re unlucky.
So many tech minded people, but at same time, so many of us fail to consider others POV and priorities.
JUST DON’T VISIT THAT WEBSITE! - sure bro, that means i won’t be able to pay the bills this month because the only traditional way of doing this is visiting a physical kiosk at working hour. Did i mention that i gotta work?
Similar with messaging apps.
YOU NEED BETTER FRIENDS LOL - trust me I’ve tried. i also need to send my resume using this app to whoever interviewing me. no, no email. yes, i tried teling that. no, i won’t be that guy preaching about software freedom when all i want is a fucking job.
The first sites I really noticed it on were banking sites. Pretty much essential. Then I noticed more and more sites. Switching to chrome based solved it. But it really, really bothers me that I had to resort to that.
Would love to just ignore such sites, but that becomes a pretty big ask… Sigh
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Make sure to only do that temporarily and only if it’s absolutely necessary. Otherwise just avoid using said website and look for alternatives.
Reminder for others that they can report to Web Compat
This is a good comment! I’ve reported to them in the past. A good reminder.
Give me examples. I’ve been using Firefox exclusively for over ten years and I can recall one website I’ve had to use chrome on. That was draw.io to get shared drawing through a Google drive to work.
For me there are certain sites where the site icon doesn’t show up in my bookmarks. While not world shattering, it can be annoying.
That was Internet Explorer 20 years ago and look where we are now.
I personally can’t remember the last time I had issues with a site on Firefox in the last few years since I switched.
The teams web app was borked for me on Firefox at one point. Idk if it’s still like that. Also Google Chat or whatever tf it’s called now disables a bunch of features on Firefox.
Still worth it to switch. 99% of websites work just fine. They basically have to intentionally design sites to not work with FF.
Those are literally restrictions placed by the site in question, not a limitation of Firefox. Get a user agent changer, and set the user agent to the “required” browser, and magically it will work!
When I was using Firefox I felt like spoofing user agent was essential to make websites work the way they were supposed to. I could loose some rounded corners here and there but it was still better that some features completely missing
Ah yes wtf is Teams doing!? Some arbitrary features are blocked on Firefox, like you can’t direct call someone but you can be part of a group call 🤪
But I don’t think Microsoft’s online suite is a reference, most of it feels buggy or bloated at best.
Chrome turning into Internet Explorer was something that I didn’t foresee some years ago.
Heck they have literally done that with Edge lol.
Been using it for years, and the only few times I had issues was due to worthless websites creating artificial obstacles with an “unsupported browser/OS” page or banner rather than something actually breaking for being incompatible.
Discord and spotify web versions don’t work on Firefox for me. On discord in can’t connect to a call and Spotify doesn’t play songs or it takes a long time after pressing play for the song to start playing.
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Good to know. I’ll try reinstalling Firefox. Both of these work flawlessly on edge for me.
Interesting. I will have to try discord. I’ve used Spotify with no issues.
We should add another E… Embrace, extend, extinguish and enshittify.
Mr. Lahey?
“Eye am the liquor, Bobandy.”
There’s so many post about Firefox. Mozilla should throw some money at Lemmy devs for free marketing.
Is it surprising that a userbase for an open-source online forum with no ads are advocates for an open-source browser that can remove ads?
You’re telling me people actually still use chrome?
They are. In fact, they make up 60 plus percent of world-wide browser users.
Don’t forget that Chrome is Android’s default browser.
And that’s a problem
why the Freenet logo and not I2P? Freenet is not designed with privacy in mind, unlike I2P which literally stands for the Invisible Internet Project.
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As a user of Seamonkey - which you’d know as Mozilla, the app that Mozilla the company ditched for being ‘too hard’ - I have to say no. While I trust they’re not as evil as Google, I don’t trust them to do the hard part of actual software maintenance.
