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And Elon Musk eats that stuff for breakfast and keeps truckin’ on. Life is unfair.
Just one of Elon’s talents, along with making drama
He is not just truckin’ along. The man looks like someone’s aunt is trying to build mass. He looks like an uncooked weisswurst got a planet fitness membership. He is a torso made manifest. Hair plugs and ozempic riding the right-wing-pipeline down a k-hole.
Hot tubs + drugs don’t mix. Even alcohol is dangerous because the effect of the hot tub increases the effects. We bought a hot tub recently and they’re are dozens of warnings about drugs/alcohol.
My recommendation to Elon would be to have a nice big dose and take a long dip.
This is no joke. I went into a hot tub with 1 beer once and when I got out, I got a blood pressure drop and almost fainted.
Exactly! It’s no joke
Does this work with weed?
No. Weed is safe.
Well I know it’s safe, but I was hoping I could get more high just for being in a hot tub
Damn, I did not know Ket could depress respiration like this! In fact Ket is used medicinally in place of opioids as it doesn’t depress respiration. But here is the TIL part: it should not be mixed with benzos or alcohol (or other depressants I would imagine). I don’t use bu I hope someone who does get to read this.
He was in the bathtub and drowned. If you take enough ketamine, it will literally incapacitate you (for many, that’s the entire point). He did this in a bathtub.
He did not die from overdosing on ketamine, because that’s nearly impossible. He was stupid and incapacitated himself in a bathtub and drowned. It sucks, and it’s easy to just blame a chemical.
I’m sure there are people who die after having a couple drinks and getting into the tub, but do we then say that they “died due to the acute effects of alcohol”? No. We say they drowned.
ketamine is anaesthetic and was used in the past in combat medicine and such, because it is quite safe when administered by untrained staff. the fact it is used to treat depression is new to me, but getting in the pool while high on it is the most stupid idea ever :(.
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No shit. In other news Epstein didn’t hang himself.
Isn’t that what Lego Yoda uses?
When Friends was current I wasn’t a fan, the small bits I’d seen mostly annoyed me and - disaffected gothy teens/early twenties guy that I was - I dismissed it as one of those things everyone in the mainstream liked and was therefore obviously garbage.
Nowadays I’m married to a Friends fan who has begun showing me the series. As we progress through the box set I’m realizing it’s actually pretty good, a couple of the characters actually still annoy me when they’re focused on but there’s a ton else going on that’s pretty entertaining. I’m particularly surprised to be enjoying Chandler so much.
It’s very sad what Matthew Perry went through in life and how he died, but I’m now belatedly appreciating some of the work he did.
Look for “Friends without laugh track” clips on Youtube.
I love those!
you can’t just do that mate, same with Seinfeld, they were filmed in front of a live audience, they had to stop for laughter otherwise you wouldn’t hear what they are saying.
or are you gonna come out and say Seinfeld isn’t hilarious?
I’m still not sure I’d call it good, but it was a big step up from sitcoms before it. It tried pretty hard to not be sexist, and introduced some diversity that wasn’t just John Ritter pretending to be gay for lulz. It is still spectacularly unrealistic, but whatever. It’s a sitcom! It does have some genuinely funny moments.
I still periodically get “Smelly Cat” stuck in my head. Fuck, I’m guilty of making Ross-esque synthesizer music…
Very true. There are also definitely still some 1990s-era LGBTQIA+ phobic jokes which were wrong then and really stick out now, but in general I’d call the writing surprisingly decent.
As a New Yorker, though, I still couldn’t afford that apartment in a million years.
I still couldn’t afford that apartment in a million years.
Neither could they, it was rent controlled due to Monica’s grandmother living there, and they illegally kept her name on the lease for the cheap rent.
And Chandler made good money, so he could afford the smaller 2 bedroom.
I lost a friend to ket. He was partying with bad people, he was sick, choked on his vomit and they stole his stuff / left him to die.
Ketamine is a very interesting ride, and has wonderful potential as an antidepressant, but for the love of yourself (and my badly missed friend, John the magic man), PLEASE have someone compus mentus watching over you while you experience it, if you choose to do so.
Also strongly recommend you DO NOT mix with alcohol.
They gave me ketamine the last time I was in the hospital for pain so they could knock me out.
It was the single worst experience of my life, even worse than the injury I was being knocked out for. I was semi conscious the entire time, but I couldn’t feel or hear anything. I just knew people were all around me doing something. It feels like I was dead for a while. I have very few memories from the time they first gave it to me in the ambulance to the time I woke up at home the next day.
Fucking awful experience all around. Next time I was in the hospital for an unrelated condition I told them I’d rather have zero pain medicine than even a tiny amount of ketamine
I don’t understand why this is bad?
I’m reading this like you’re unhappy you don’t remember the pain? And you want pain?
Or is this sarcasm?
No, it’s basically an entire day of my life that I know happened but I can’t remember any specific details of. I know I went through insane amounts of physical and emotional trauma (I laid there in pain for no less than 8 hours because it was literally the same week COVID started), and not being able to remember it at all is preventing me from moving on or healing.
Idk if it’s just a me thing, but I hate not remembering entire large sections of time. After the first time I got black out drunk I didn’t drink alcohol for almost 2 years
Low dose ketamine is drastically different than the dosage used to sedate someone
They gave me low dose in the ambulance. While it was a decent high, I still had the same memory issues (which I always have while high, but at least I can normally remember something)
A recreational dose is far lower than what a medical professional would give you. The intentions are different.
Good to know, especially since the ambulance really didn’t give me much.
I’m still gonna pass on it though cause that was such an awful experience and I’d much rather just take an edible
Do you know why they gave you ketamine instead of something more standard like morphine?
Absolutely no idea. The other hospital I mentioned was confused as to why they did it as well.
And always review information on erowid’s website before using any drug
Oh erowid…. Brings me back to college
Erowid is a brilliant resource!
Ketamine also should not be used in people with high blood pressure as it may further increase it and heart rates to dangerous levels.
Hot tubs increase heart rate as well however the blood pressure is lowered.
Oh yah, he had heart disease which is a no go with hot tubs.
What about taking ketamine at the end of a 3 day meth binge to take the edge off the come down?
Benzos are a better choice, not sure why you’d want to end the fun after only three days though.
Sounds sensible
Not to mention Buprenorphine on top of the ketamine which is bad news with a hot tub.
Meh, I’ve been on bupe for 4 years and love hot baths and such, it’s not that big of a deal. His previous issues were more of a problem than that. Buprenorphine is somewhat of a miracle drug for those of us who have been trying to battle opiate addiction. It has very very little side effects and does nothing more than stop the craving and make someone like myself feel like a normal person instead of like the fucking junkie that I am (was).
Not denying that it has depressive effects on respiratory and other systems. But if you’re not abusing other drugs while using it, there’s really not any problem with that.
I’m on bupe as well, but both together is a bad news with the hot water. It increases the chance to sleep, and falling asleep in a hot tub will make you drown.
Add to his known addictive personality that he has had a problem with for decades, he shouldn’t have been on that combination.
I personally hate bupe because it rarely works on my chronic pain I’ve had for the last 20 years. The media blew up the legal fentanyl patches I safely took almost 10 years ago that gave me a normal life. This will be just another excuse to restrict medication that works. A buddy of mine has stopped his suicidal issues because of ketamine therapy.
Doesn’t surprise me at all!
The groups of ‘friends’ that do shit like ketamine are almost always scumbags just keeping each other down.
I think you and I had very different experiences! While ket abuse can defo lead to paranoia and becoming more insular, in my circles it was taken at hard house / trance events or after parties. Lots of silliness and fun times.
Unfortunately for my friend, he lived on his own in Manchester and fell in with a rough crowd after moving to Salford :'(
Cue all of the commenters saying how amazing unprescribed unmonitored narcotic abuse is great for their mental health.
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From wikipedia: “On December 15, 2023, Perry’s death was revealed to have occurred due to “acute effects of ketamine”.[94][95] Other circumstances that contributed to his death included the effects of buprenorphine, drowning, and coronary artery disease.[94]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Perry#Death
I was all, “who’s Matthew Perry”?He was more relevant for us over 30 crowd.
Could that dude BE anymore clueless?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuPNmXtomNw
Do your thing piped bot. I tried to link this from newpipe but whatever
Lost in the K-hole.
In the K-hole licking balloon knot.
As someone who enjoys the near death experience of being a flattened disk of light energy folding in space time, this makes me sad.
My man.
I’ve been there too. I saw the singularity and touched god… and I’m a goddamn atheist. Coming back from that experience changed me. The memories were fleeting. I couldn’t remember the specifics after I returned to baseline. All the knowledge that I was given dissipated… but the overwhelming sense of calm persisted.
If I’m gonna die, it’d be a good way to go out.
My biggest k-hole was my most terrifying and incredible experience I’ve ever had. I haven’t done it since. I will again someday.
The curtain of consciousness was peeled back and I saw what was beyond life and time and brain. It was neat, it horrified me.
Don’t worry. Consciousness is immortal so you’ll be able to live as much time as you want as a disc of light or whatever.
So I wouldn’t actually want to be stuck in it forever. It’s hard to explain but my k-holes are quite dark and dreadful, it’s what I explained in my previous comment except looping. I don’t have a physical body anymore and I’m just a thought process floating through space in a stream of color. There’s this creeking noise like a door opening that starts off real low pitch and slowly speeds up to the point it’s high pich and extremely fast. Then it’s like hitting a wall and you fly in to a million pieces an slowly gather yourself in that state and then it repeats.
It feels like that is what you have been since the beginning of time. It feels like a near death experience and when i come out some kind of reverse psychology goes on in my brain. I just think about how much it would suck if that was real. My depression goes away for quite awhile afterwards.
Whenever I do nitrous, I see this same truth. The truth is that the universe has four phases. Being high on nitrous and seeing the structure is one of the four states.
There’s some kind of four-phase clockwork thing chugging along. Normal existence I think is one of the states?
I can’t remember. All I can remember is being astounded, every time, that I’m back in the “aware of what’s going on phase”, and I struggle mightily to remember the lesson, knowing I won’t be able to because the next phase is defined by my ignorance of it.
It’s maddening.
I’d love to do some serious ketamine sometime. I did a little line at a party once in 2006 and that was for my ketamine experience. It was a tiny bump and didn’t really affect me much. Nothing even remotely psychedelic, that I recall.
At that same party I did a huge hit of fucking homemade habanero extract (on purpose) and that was way more mind-blowing.
K and nitrous… that’s mothers love.
Unfortunately it doesn’t matter if you want to or not. You are literally never going to die.
You can die in other people’s worlds, but not in your own. Other people will die in your universe, but your own life will, beyond all odds, only continue forever.
You’ll die in others’ universes of course. Other people will lose you. But you’ll never lose yourself.
No choice, pal.
But I don’t think you’ll be human the whole time. Human lifespan is a century or so. So the story of your life will have to change to account for your survival. Eventually, no human story will suffice any longer. In these other timelines where you survive, you may be uploaded into a machine, or possibly disconnect from your body via astral projection, or wake up in a simulated universe instead, with different laws around death.
But at some point during the eternity, you’ll probably be the disc of light. I’m guessing trillions of years out, after the heat death of the universe has rendered it incapable of supporting any kind of life as we know it.
This is something I recently learned, actually. That we’re immortal.
Please do go submit this information to an academic journal and accept your Nobel.
No way to prove it yet
My awareness going on forever sounds hellish. I don’t want to only live 70-100 years, but I also wouldn’t want to live 1000 years, let alone billions.
So I sure hope you’re wrong on that front (and I think you are). The universe is a cruel enough place as it is.
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I have no idea who this is.
Don’t people die from drugs all the time?
You do realize you have the option not to reply to posts that aren’t relevant to you, right?
Yeah, but why should we care about this guy when people die from drugs all the time?
You’re really bad at the internet, aren’t you?
Why are you replying to me?
Because you wrote to me directly, as opposed to the person that posted the article. Also, it’s entertaining me that you’re desperately hoping someone says what he’s well known for so you can say you don’t waste your time with pop culture garbage
Lol, nice projection.
I’m guessing you like this guy and get mad when someone doesn’t know who he is.
Disregarding all the other stuff, the reports say he was being treated with ketamine for anxiety and depression. He had decades of mental health struggles.
No matter who the person is, he was still a person.
If only there were some world-wide interconnected network of computers full of more information than you could possibly imagine, all of it searchable instantly where you could find out who Matthew Perry was.
Alas…
I never asked who he was, nor do I care.
Lol.
Then what was the point of your post?
What’s the point of yours?
Very simple- my point was to castigate you for telling us you didn’t know who someone was as if you couldn’t have just found out with minimal effeort.
Your turn: Why did you think we needed to know that you don’t know who Matthew Perry is?
I’m just going to ignore you. Goodbye.
That’s not really the courteous thing to do after someone does exactly what you ask of them.
I remember the world pre-pocket (or home) internet. We thought access to information was the core issue of people being ignorant/misinformed/stupid, surely instant access to world libraries with all the cumulated human knowledge would alleviate that.
We were wrong.
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I didn’t even think it was possible to die from ket. Although doing lots of ket in the water sounds like a planned suicide
If another comment was to be believed, he had heart disease. Ketamine plus a hot tub, probably alcohol (? Someone correct me if I’m wrong please) my chest hurts just from thinking about that. His heart probably damn near ruptured
No alcohol. I read the coroner’s report.
You can die drinking too much water too fast, most drugs can easily kill you.
I was looking up psilocybin and was surprised to see the mean fatal dose for a bunch of lab animals. Didn’t bother equating it to humans, but I was surprised.
Erm, it’s really truly not that dangerous.
Let’s start with this chart (colorful chart near the top). The yellow-green bar on the right is cubensis, the most common shroom. 0.6% by weight. A typical dose of shrooms is gonna run about 0.5g to 2g, meaning a typical shrooms trip hits you with up to 12mg psilocybin. A shroom is roughly half a gram, maybe a whole gram, let’s just use 1g shrooms for simplicity–6mg of drug mass in that shroom.
LD50 for psilocybin is 280mg/kg. This is how LD50 is always measured–amount of drug (in mass units) per kg of body weight, in order to reach a 50% likelihood of fatal symptoms resulting in death.
Now, the average adult weight is somewhere in the 50-100kg range. Let’s take someone on the lighter end at 50kg. How many shrooms would our dainty psychonaut have to take to have a chance of dying? The math is simple: 280 * 50 / 6 gives us (LD50 * shroom count) for a grand total of: 233 largish shrooms, taken rapidly, to have a chance of dying from it. Now, you could refine it and pack that much of the drug into a much smaller dose than 233 shrooms, but we’re getting into silliness at this point.
Basically, don’t take hundreds of shrooms at once and you’ll be aight.
The math is simple: 280 * 50 / 6 gives us (LD50 * shroom count) for a grand total of: 233 largish shrooms, taken rapidly, to have a chance of dying from it
You mean to get to the point where you have a 50% chance if dying from it. You still have a chance (<50%) of doing from it at much lower doses.
Jesus christ, scientists. Tripping a lab rat to death? fuck
Maybe they attained enlightenment and left their bodies behind.
Eventually, yeah. Enlightenment is the inevitable result of a trip to hell.
it is actually really hard for ketamine to kill you, that is why it was used as anaesthetic in combat medicine, because it is safe to be administered by untrained staff. but it is really important not to anaesthetize yourself in the pool :(.
I’ve never done ketamine but going into a K-hole in a hot tub sounds incredibly dangerous. I don’t know what’s more sad if it was planned or not.
Anything that has the effect of Ketamine would easily kill in the right amount, let alone in a pool of water. If they use it as animal anesthesia its probably pretty potent. Can be fun in the right amounts but got to be safe and careful.
that’s too much, man
