Pornhub goes dark in Arkansas after age verification law kicks in::Pornhub operator MindGeek has blocked all users in Arkansas from the site after the state’s new age verification law went into effect.

    • NormalC
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      52 years ago

      It sorta of looks like the puffer fish eating a carrot meme. Bizarre.

  • @[email protected]
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    152 years ago

    These tech companies leaving certain places to avoid regulation, while sucking up to censorship laws in Russia and the likes… They can shove it, if you ask me.

    • @[email protected]
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      102 years ago

      My knowledge on this is very limited and I currently lack sources, but I believe the issue that Mindgeek has is not the implementation of age verification, but instead the fact that all of the work is being put on Mindgeek to implement it instead of the states. I believe they’ve been fine in the past implementing age verification if the system already exists and they just have to tie into it.

    • @[email protected]
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      62 years ago

      I’m pretty sure their main issue is that they don’t want to be the ones doing the age verification. Louisiana set up a state run verification system, and pornhub has continued to operate their site in the state. I don’t want porn sites to have my ID info.

    • @[email protected]
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      32 years ago

      Didn’t the company also previously claim they were unable to effectively combat child porn?

      Classy lot.

      • @[email protected]
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        62 years ago

        No, they claimed they weren’t able to let amateurs post and prevent child porn. So they took down an enormous amount of content.

    • @[email protected]
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      Not sure what the spirit is behind this comment, but for all the cases that could be made in advocacy for porn, I don’t think this should be one. If porn is the only thing keeping rape cases from drastically increasing, there is something much more broken in our society, and access to porn won’t fix that.

      Edit: Holy shit, guys. I thought poor reading comprehension and inflammatory dog-piling was something that wouldn’t be so commonplace, after moving here from Reddit. Where did I say I support anything about what these pieces of legislation are enforcing? Every single response I’ve gotten so far has been arguing different points of discussion, of which my comment has nothing to do with. All I said was “GIVE THE RAPISTS THEIR PORN SO WE CAN BE SAFE!!!” isn’t exactly a strong angle to approach the issue from. One user is even sharing a study that includes data showing that giving pedophiles access to child pornography reduces rates of sexual assault with children. Like, no shit, but is the lack of child pornography really the core issue at that point? Don’t bother replying to me if you just want to put words in my mouth, and assume my stances on topics which I so far haven’t shared.

      • @[email protected]
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        222 years ago

        Do you lock your door at night or when you leave? You shouldn’t have to, but you currently need to. So it would be stupid not to.

      • @[email protected]
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        72 years ago

        No spirit at all. Genuinely want to see if / how these change.

        I have a feeling they wont.

      • @[email protected]
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        122 years ago

        You’d rather rape rates be higher because the knob we know we can turn is slightly distasteful?

      • @[email protected]
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        242 years ago

        The spirit is quite clearly that rape and abuse numbers will likely go up slightly anywhere porn is banned.

        Nobody said “drastically.”

        • @[email protected]
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          152 years ago

          Holy shit I never thought I’d get to use line before.

          “Anyway, walk to your cars in pairs tonight. Rape’s up 8 percent”

        • @[email protected]
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          112 years ago

          “human nature” is such a loaded phrase that generally is only used justify bullshit. and linking some article from some site that reports on some study somewhere isn’t going to change that

        • @[email protected]
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          32 years ago

          I am utterly unsurprised that there is evidence of a correlation between access to pornography and rates of sex-related crimes. However, I stand by what I said.

          • @[email protected]
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            162 years ago

            “We shouldn’t use evidence that banning porn has a potentially deleterious effect to make a decision on banning porn. We should use The Jesus!”

            It’s not OUR society that you’re responding to. It’s NUMEROUS societies.

            The rest of the world does exist, ya know.

    • @[email protected]
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      122 years ago

      Brother, the general population in Arkansas is not even smart enough to change their Wi-Fi password, let alone use a VPN.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 years ago

        With the amount of ads I see for things like NordVPN or PIA openly advertising bypassing geo blocking I doubt many people haven’t heard of them. (Those who haven’t will soon hear about them from friends)

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    2372 years ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Pornhub operator MindGeek has blocked all users in Arkansas from the site after the state’s new age verification law went into effect on Tuesday.

    The Arkansas law, SB 66, doesn’t ban Pornhub from operating in the state, but it requires porn sites to verify that a user is 18 by confirming their age with identifying documents.

    On Wednesday, Pornhub blocked all traffic from IP addresses based in Arkansas in protest, arguing that the law, which was intended to protect children, actually harms users.

    “While safety and compliance are at the forefront of our mission, giving your ID card every time you want to visit an adult platform is not the most effective solution for protecting our users, and in fact, will put children and your privacy at risk,” MindGeek wrote in a message replacing the site’s front page for affected users.

    Responding to this wave of bans, MindGeek has decided to block access to its sites from states where the laws have gone into effect.

    So, instead of rolling out age verification systems, it says it decided to block access entirely, calling on users to contact their state representatives to oppose these laws.


    I’m a bot and I’m open source!

      • TXL
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        Having one in link posts really should be mandatory in the rules for most communities

        • Flying Squid
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          72 years ago

          I appear to be in the small minority, but I do not think we should be relying on an AI to summarize stories for us because the AI doesn’t actually know what are important details.

          • @[email protected]
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            102 years ago

            On the other hand, having some people who read a summary that skips some important parts when they otherwise wouldn’t have read the article at all, might be worth the trade off it brings of people who would have read the article now reading an incomplete summary. The net amount of people who go into the comments more informed about the topic past whatever is in the headline would be decently higher, and personally I see that as one of the best ways to increase the quality of discussion overall.

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            Author of the bot here, so obviously biased, but the bot so far is doing really great at picking the important parts. And sure, it doesn’t know, but it’s really good at guessing and I dare say better than many actual people would be at picking 6 sentences to summarize the article.

    • Prox
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      52 years ago

      What is the expectation for compliance here? Are users supposed to scan their physical ID and upload that to PH, then PH checks age against that?

      • @[email protected]
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        The bill says that commercial entities serving pornography are required to do age verification through either verifying a driver’s license, verifying another piece of government-issued identification, or through the use of any commercially viable age verification mechanism.

        So, yeah, I’d imagine compliance to look like either uploading a photograph or scan of an identity card or document for the site operators to check, or uploading it to an affiliated service which does age verification on their behalf.

        Which is obviously horrendous from a privacy and information security standpoint for the consumer, and exposes the site operator to costs and legal risk associated with verifying and storing sensitive personal information.

    • @[email protected]
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      252 years ago

      I recommend using Tor browser as an alternate option. For anybody who can’t use a VPN or doesn’t want to.

      • @[email protected]
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        252 years ago

        Definitely not the right scenario for tor. If you dont care about your privacy and just want to see some titty boombom Fanny maracas then even the cheapest VPN would be a better experience.

        Really though a decent VPN should something everyone has access to though anyway.

      • Brudder Aaron
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        22 years ago

        I just use OperaGX’s shitty free VPN if I need it. It works enough to get any vpn needed jobs done.

      • Cornpop
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        162 years ago

        I think a vpn is simpler than tor personally. Also then videos gonna be buffering for a minute on tor lol

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          It’s not “simpler” at all because it includes the step of paying. But, indeed, better for this application.

          • z3rOR0ne
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            Not necessarily. Granted installing the Tor browser will set up the services/daemons and access to the appropriate ports in the background, but generally the Tor protocol has a lot more going on than a VPN.

            Additionally a VPN can be had for free from certain services like ProtonVPN. It’s not as fast as a paid VPN service, but during lower traffic times it’ll suffice. Plus if you know how to torrent over a VPN, then you just download the vids that way and you don’t need internet access every time you want to watch it.

            This plus using CLI tools like yt-dlp on sites like pornhub, xhamster, etc, and you really start to realize how ineffective bullshit laws like these are for increasingly more technically savvy youths.

      • @[email protected]
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        492 years ago

        I’m not sure if streaming 1080p video over Tor would be very appreciated by the rest of the network. Or that it would be a very pleasant experience.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          Do you always stream porn in 1080p? I guess I never thought about the quality, but I honestly don’t expect anything more than 720

          • @[email protected]
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            72 years ago

            Does the resolution really matter? I may be wrong, but I think nobody runs a Tor node, giving away their bandwidth for free and risking jail time, just so that some random dude in Arkansas can watch some porn.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 years ago

        It is a beautiful state, especially the part in the ozark mountains. But there is no way I could live there because of the people. It also lacks a single great city (Little Rock is a dump).

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          Why a dump? I thought it was a pretty decent place for living in, if it wasn’t for the state.

        • Rikudou_Sage
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          12 years ago

          I’m European so I don’t know that much about stuff like this, but isn’t it kinda easy to move from state to state in US?

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            It is, but with a few caveats that can make it outright impossible, largely down to financial issues.

            From a legal standpoint, it’s only slightly more annoying than moving from one town to another. You don’t have to go through any sort of immigration process or anything, you just inform the state you’re leaving and the state you’re moving to of the change in address, and then get tax/identification stuff done like registering your car in the new state and getting an in-state driver’s license.

            Financially, the housing market is a mess in the US right now for a number of reasons, from the number of new houses being built not keeping up with population growth for like 60 years and many empty houses being in unlivable condition due to lack of maintenance, to many homes being owned by investment companies (and wealthy Chinese apparently) as basically a high yield savings account or bought up by companies and people turning them into rental property. And that’s before you get into the logistics of moving your life to a new home.

            • Rikudou_Sage
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              12 years ago

              Heh, sounds suspiciously similar to what’s happening in my country. Except here it’s wealthy Russians instead of wealthy Chinese. Seems the whole western world is the same kind of fucked when it comes to housing.

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            It is. If you have money. Trust me, if I had the funds, I’d be somewhere different in a heartbeat.

      • @[email protected]
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        I grew up there. The northern part of the state is honestly one of the prettiest parts of our country. It is also filled with some of the most vile people. Vile people from everywhere else go there to retire and add to the smegma pot.

  • @[email protected]
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    942 years ago

    Who in their right mind would expect a free porn site to go to this level of hassle?

    Or is this a puritanical measure in disguise?

    • @[email protected]
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      392 years ago

      When this happened in Utah a few months ago, Google searches for VPN increased in like over 1000%.

      The best Free VPN IMO is ProtonVPN,

      • @[email protected]
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        42 years ago

        For a general user that just wants a comprehensive google replacement, proton unlimited at $12/mo is a pretty good deal. Comes with the VPN premium and a password manager (now).

          • @[email protected]
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            22 years ago

            And way more private by accepting Monero and requiring no registration, but they don’t have solutions for my Calandar, Cloud Drive, email with custom domain, etc. hence “drop in google replacement”.

        • @[email protected]
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          32 years ago

          I do not understand the need to have your passwords stored somewhere in the cloud. I’d better sync them by a wire if I had several devices, not like passwords change every day. And there are cheaper VPNs out there with better reputation.

          • @[email protected]
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            42 years ago

            It’s not like they are plaintext, and increased availability/ redundancy would be one potential reason for deciding to have a cloud synced password manager database.

            There are other solutions that you can self host or create yourself, and if that works better for you and your use case, I encourage it.

    • @[email protected]
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      82 years ago

      Especially since PornHub has an excellent point. Even though they theoretically could do an ID check, the sketchier porn sites simply wouldn’t. All these laws would do is push minors to use more dangerous porn sites. They’re not going to not watch porn just because the big, law abiding site checks IDs.

    • @[email protected]
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      1032 years ago

      It’s the second one. I saw article where they talked how Florida was the first to pass it, pornhub put time and money into developing what they needed to comply and saw a 90% decrease in traffic because nobody wants to hand over their ID for free porn.

      • @[email protected]
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        82 years ago

        Ohhhh fuck is it viewer’s age verification… I assumed it was the people in the porn… As if this is gonna stop horny kids from seeing porn

        • @[email protected]
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          112 years ago

          yeah, the smart teenager is going to be charging the adults in his life $50 to get their porn working again.

        • @[email protected]
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          Pretty sure PH already requires ID for people in porn. That’s why they wiped half the uploads some years ago pending accounts verifying themselves.

      • @[email protected]
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        432 years ago

        After MindGeek started complying with the Louisiana law earlier this year, the company said traffic dropped by 80 percent.

        It’s literally in the linked article lol

    • @[email protected]
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      92 years ago

      VPN industry lobbyists disguised as morality crusaders if you like tin foil hats as much as I do. Most likely not though, just people who feel the need to control how others spend their time and precious bodily fluids.