Looks like someone took some shots at prez candidate Donald Trump at a rally in PA. From the videos I’ve seen, it looks like he did get grazed.
Where was Nikki Haley? She was in charge of security!
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Somebody could shoot Trump on 5th Avenue and nobody important would care.
Would absolutely not care about Trump. Would absolutely care about the incensed conservative mob with minimal brain cells, rage and guns starting shit
Their rage is mostly impotent. When push comes to shove, I think the vast majority of them will stay home and continue posting on Truth Social.
that’s not what i took from j6…
One lady gets shot and they break like Lee at Gettysburg.
Did you miss the whole Jan 6th thing?
That was the best they had from all around the country. Mostly thieves and vandals, stealing a laptop and a podium, smearing shit on the walls. Very few actually prepared for violence. If shit went down nationwide, those few violent ones would not be together in one place, so they’d pose far less of a threat.
Unless there is someone to direct that rage, they’ll have no idea what to do with it, or where to direct it.
There will always be people that direct that rage, Trump is a cult leader but he’s not the only influencer
trump is a fortuitous puppet. he ran for president in the past too, but he didn’t win because the times weren’t right for it.
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The fact that mods are actually doing their jobs in this thread restores some of my faith in Lemmy.
Would the world be a better place without Trump? Probably. Is this the way? No.
I suppose we need even more guns.
If he was wearing armor made of guns he wouldn’t be bleeding.
After giving due remarks, could Biden sign an executive order for sweeping gun control and name it after Trump and present this incident as the impetus?
No the executive can’t create laws.
Genius.
Disarming the resistance right before a fascist takeover is not the genius move you think it is.
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This wouldn’t have happened if Trump had a gun on him smh
Isn’t he banned being a felon
He sure is.
Isn’t he banned being a feeling?
Oh, he’s More Than a Feeling
Technically not a felon until sentencing.
So in the mean time, we can call him:
Presumptive felon nominee
Felony frontrunner
Felon elect
Or everyone else in the crowd had one
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Practical solution for a practical problem
I see blood but I don’t see a wound. Are they really going to try and pass that the perfect hole there is a bullet hole? Wouldn’t a gun shot wound there take a bigger portion of the ear?
Paramedic here. All parts of the head are very vascular, and so any head injury at all bleeds fantastically. If the top of his ear got clipped, that would be enough to produce that much blood.
Depends on the hit. There’s not much blood so it might just be a graze.
Probably bounced off his thick skull.
Depends on the round. A lot of factors come into play on gunshot wounds, including velocity, mass, resistance, angle. There is even some possibility that the round just barely missed, but the displacement of air is actually what broke skin.
There is even some possibility that the round just barely missed, but the displacement of air is actually what broke skin.
That is an urban legend. I’ve been missed by some pretty large caliber rounds in war and I’ve seen some pretty large caliber rounds barely miss people. No damage is done. You have to make contact with the round (or vice versa) for it to do damage.
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I’m literally just a dude. I usually don’t have time to post, and haven’t really felt the need to comment, but I had a rare day off where i felt like I could actually take part in conversation.
Guy I agree his account history looks a little sus, but isn’t that a little bit of the pot calling the kettle black? You have 3 comments since December.See below.
I don’t comment a lot, but I have way more comments than that.
Ah I see why, I had the main few communities you post in blocked. My bad. I rescind my comment. Note to everyone else: Check histories in a private tab so you can see even communities that you have blocked.
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Come on man, you’re making me laugh at someone getting shot. XD
Almost
This is what wins him the election.
I’m more worried about the nutzos trying to “defend trump”.
Oh and First Past the Post voting artificially limiting our options putting us into this situation.
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As much as I hate to admit this, it wasn’t a fake shooting. The ‘acting’ was way too good to be faked. The mid-word ‘stung in the ear’ confusion slowly followed by the realization of what happened and the clumsy collapse to the ground are just too believable to think it wasn’t real. That said, whether it was a false flag or not is another story.
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That image was after I heard security yell “shooter’s down”
Edit: They also yelled “clear we’re clear”.
An antended at the rally and the shooter were killed per the AP
Yup.
I like candidates that don’t get shot at for being pieces of shit.
Won’t matter at this point. Even if it turns out to be faked. It won’t matter. His base is that fucking stupid. The idea has been planted and it doesn’t even have to be true.
This just got him elected.
There’s a lot of time, a lot can happen, but this just justified a lot of the nonsense narratives the right wing has been trying to push.
I really hope you’re wrong, but it certainly helps him.
a lot can happen
OK someone quick shoot at and near-miss Biden as well so the martyrdom evens out!!11
I’ve never hoped to be wrong more I don’t think, but I fear now that the Cletus brigade is going to go on a fucking rampage.
Innocent lives are gong to be lost over this.
This is what wins him the
electioninsurrection.FTFY. He called on his rabid supporters to “fight.” I think we all know what that means.
Several secret service agents surrounded him as he put his hand up and appeared to shout “fight” to his supporters who began cheering.
Yep. Many innocent people will die because of this.
Guess some of those 2nd Ammendment guys might be “trying to do something about it” eh Donnie?
This is what you get when you preach hate 24/7. This isn’t a gameshow.
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Unless it was a blood capsule or something the guy is too much of a pussy to pull something like this off.
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Plus an image of some blood on the bleacher from a live stream that kept running:
You recall that he wanted to rip off his suit and display a Superman logo after beating covid, right?
Id say it’s on brand.
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Why?
I mean it might have been, but with the modern insanity around politics and guns and violence, and the general unhinged nature of the population generally, it’s equally or more likely to be some deranged person with a gun. WHY for the love of god add to the chaos by speculating without any evidence yet? Does it help?
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Absolutely. False flag for sure.
Edit: /s. Half of you are way too serious.
I dunno. I saw the footage. If the guy from Home Alone 2 was acting, he’d be a lot more blatant.
Plus, wouldn’t secret service be in on it? I bet you they can’t stand the guy either.
From my understanding, his service detail are all true believers. Remember, most LEOs and the like are very right wing.
Well, that may be true. According to AP, the gunman and an attendee are dead. So… not staged.
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At least two confirmed dead:
Butler County District attorney told the Associated Press (AP) that a shooter was dead and that a rally attendee had also been killed.
One of the attendees in the bleachers was hit:
https://imgur.com/a/V0SyhKENews is also saying that 2 are dead: https://news.sky.com/story/shots-fired-at-donald-trump-rally-as-former-president-rushed-off-stage-13177651
Butler County District attorney told the Associated Press (AP) that a shooter was dead and that a rally attendee had also been killed.
This doesn’t sound like it was staged.
that a shooter was dead
In other words he can’t be questioned
Don’t stoop to that level. Assume it was real. Base your conclusions on evidence. Not conspiracies.
My worry is that some lunatic right winger is trying to push us to civil war.
We’re already there. They just haven’t started the American Violence™ phase yet. Right now we’re in the American Saber Rattling™ phase.
i keep thinking of that too…
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I’m just sick at how much of a coup this is for the Trump campaign. That photo is going to do so much work
Also right as steam was picking up about Project 2025.
The shooter and an audience member are dead. How Machiavellian do you think these people are that they’d kill two people for a PR stunt?
Child border seperation policy
Honestly: do you think they have regard for people’s lives? Not that I think this is staged.
They’d surely have regard for Trump’s life, no? I mean “they” shot him in the ear. An inch closer and he’d likely be dead.
Did they shot him in the ear?
Yeah I too thought it was staged until bodies showed up. Anyone continuing to say this was staged at this point feels very Alex Jones.
I don’t think it was staged, but I also don’t think they would give a shit if other people died during a staged shooting.
I agree, but I don’t think Donny is brave enough to allow lethal ammo to stage anything.
Also true.
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I had to do a double take on that abbreviation
Right? USSS is the proper abbreviation for the United States Secret Service.
Same meaning at this point.
Schutzstaffel, as in protective service would probably be a better description of what they actually do I guess
Secret service better fits sg like the CIA
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Again, I wouldn’t be surprised if they just shot a random person, claimed they were the shooter and wrapped this up.
He is an abhorrently cruel person. And those that follow him are as well. None of this is outlandish enough to not be true.
https://x.com/merylkornfield/status/1812263916497506711?s=46
According to a Washington Post reporter that talked with the district attorney, an audience member and the shooter are dead. Not a stunt.
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The bullet is totally a crisis actor, you can also see it in that one Reagan clip. /s
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Can be seen in the JFK “assassination” as well. Dude gets around. Was younger then and could do some crazy acrobatics back then though.
reap what you sow
Remember that Biden is immune thanks to the SCOTUS.
He has a alibi, he’s in Delaware. But as long as it was an official act, he could order it.
He wouldn’t do it himself. He would order Seal Team 6 to do t. They wouldn’t have missed, though.
Nah, this was obviously Hunter Biden in a Gritty Suit. The gunman who got massacred by the cops was just a patsy like Lee Harvey Oswald
A Libertarian friend from Florida joking suggested Hunter Biden. I think it was Melania.
This fucking shooter could set behind democracy in the US for dozens of years. Land the shots and you martyr him, miss and you galvanize his support. Seriously the conservatives were starting to shift away from the far right after Epstein documents and Project 2025. Now deep state wackos will NEVER go away and resort to crazier armed shit. Seeing people comment that the shooter ‘was so close’ is insane and makes them no better than political extremists.
Mr Trump could be seen ducking for cover behind the lectern.
I like attempted assassination victims that don’t duck for cover.
I say we elect that one guy behind him who barely reacts at all
Honestly, they’re all so dead inside up there that I’m amazed any of them even flinched.
It’ll take more than that to stop a Bull Moose!
I wonder how much we’re going to hear about the poor person who got shot in the head right behind him, or if they’re just incidental margin notes in history, overshadowed by the big WWE media theater that is Trump. Reports are saying at least two crowd members have died.
edit: the family of the victim has given an update that Trump hasn’t even attempted to reach out to them. And also, the guy was an avid nutcase, nazi and racist. The world won’t be worse-off, we can sleep easy.
I just hope they were crucial to Project 2025
They chose to go to a rally to support a man who wants to be a “dictator on day one” they made their choice.
Wasn’t one an eight year old?
I think you’re thinking of a school shooting.
Oh Trump will absolutely bring them up at every single rally to froth up the crowd. Because he may be the martyr they care about the most, but the martyrs who actually died will be great ammunition (I can’t think of a more appropriate word, sorry) to rile up the crowd.
Fascists love their “martyrs for the cause”.
That is assuming there is another rally, and today’s incident wasn’t just the catalyst for a Jan 6 sequel. Knowing his supporters, I’m not holding my breath, unfortunately.
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Considering the number of people here claiming this was Trump staging a false flag, I am absolutely certain there are a similarly large number of people on the right saying this was Biden trying to assassinate Trump and something must be done. So I hope not.
Republicans have blamed Joe Biden for the attempted assassination tonight, accusing the president of whipping up opposition to Donald Trump.
JD Vance, who is one of the frontrunners to be Trump’s running mate, said: “Today is not just some isolated incident. The central premise of the Biden campaign is that President Donald Trump is an authoritarian fascist who must be stopped at all costs.”
“That rhetoric led directly to President Trump’s attempted assassination,” he added.
Mike Collins, a Republican congressman from Georgia, said: “The Republican District Attorney in Butler County, PA, should immediately file charges against Joseph R. Biden for inciting an assassination.”
He also tweeted that Mr Biden “sent the orders”.
All I’m hearing is that they think Biden told the truth and used the power the Heritage Foundation SCOTUS explicitly gave him, and now they’re inexplicably butthurt about it.
Prosecuting the president for stochastic terrorism? That’s a precedent they really don’t want to set with Trump as their candidate.
That they are pushing it is evidence they don’t think they’ll have to follow the rule of law if they win.
That they are pushing it is evidence they don’t think they’ll have to follow the rule of law if they win.
They won’t. The Supreme Court already determined that.
Unfortunately, the number is likely going to be a lot higher.
I’m pretty sure a lot of the people here are (or at least me) are being joking/sarcastic about the false flag conspiracy. For us Lemmings, there’s no emotional stake in these events, whereas his supporters will be angered over anyone even attempting to kill their fascist idol…
I’m pretty sure a lot of the people here are (or at least me) are being joking/sarcastic about the false flag conspiracy.
I’m not sure of that at all, especially when emotions are running high.
I’m not absolutely discounting the possibility they they somehow found some schlub to die in a fake assassination attempt, but I’m also not going to come up with conspiracy theories until there’s been some time to go over evidence and analyze the situation.
I’m also not going to come up with conspiracy theories until there’s been some time to go over evidence and analyze the situation.
Respect for that. It’s a reasonable and rational response to today’s series of events, despite the temptations of role-playing as a conspiracy theorist to escape from having to think about the hypothetical consequences of said events.
Thats fine, isn’t Biden permitted to assassinate people while in office with immunity?
Ex-prez, please.
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I wouldn’t be surprised either way, honestly. It would be the right timing for a false flag though for sure.
But then on the other hand this is the prescribed treatment for tyrants, per our fore-bearers.
It’s not clear at all that that’s what happened. It is completely plausible that someone would shoot a firearm at a candidate in a hotly contested presidential election. Let wait for evidence to roll in yeah?
You know for a fact that if the shoe were on the other foot, this is exactly the rhetoric we’d be hearing.
So let’s not do what they do and live in an evidence-based world and not an emotion-based one.
The “facts don’t care about your feelings” party doesn’t care about facts and spends a lot of time on how their feelings are hurt.
My evidence (in addition to the weirdness of his reaction, and the convenient blood) - has any article mentioned a shooter being seen/shot/arrested/known to exist? I can’t remember a time where there was a shooting and no article said ANYTHING about a shooter, only about the shots. Nothing could be better for the Trump campaign than for him to be “almost” assassinated.
Shooter dead and audience member killed
A person believed to be a shooter at today’s Donald Trump Pennsylvania rally is dead, as well as an audience member in attendance, the Butler County District Attorney has said.
In addition to the two fatalities, one other person is believed to be in a critical condition.
Wonder if this should be posted as a new article to the news communities? It’s important, more relevant information.
Unfortunately that’s just one update on a page with regular updates. You would have to find a better link.
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Sure. It could have been faked.
On the other hand, if I was an unhinged person with a gun and I thought there was a good chance a fascist dictator might run the U.S., I might be inclined to try to do something about it.
There’s no reason not to rule something like that out.
Bruh it happened like an hour ago. But news stories about the shooter being killed are coming out now.
Yeah but that’s because Republicans are fuckin idiots
Yes it would be the case. Should we start behaving like right wing conspiracy theorists now?
You’re right. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit. But I still hold all parties to a standard of honest discourse.
Doesn’t make it right or acceptable.
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You’re doing what they do.
Yes. You are correct. On reflection I should have put quotes around it as it was intented to convey that but not actually imply that it was the case. It is good you called it out.
