• @[email protected]
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      Fuck yes you mean! I’m joking, I can see how this is scary and it is risky to an extent( although way less than Biden staying in imo). Here is what I would consider about this though as a positive:

      I think this will at least partially reinvigorate the voting population

      I don’t know this of course but personally I haven’t been excited about pretty much anything happening in politics in a while. I am actually excited and they haven’t even picked a new nominee yet. Harris would be my least popular pick but if they pick her I will be way more happy/motivated about voting. I hope this pumps some blood into voter turnout.

    • @[email protected]
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      It’s really a good move. At this point any person under 70 could mop the floor with trump, he’s still the worst possible candidate from any position, and the GOP has had zero time to poison whoever gets the nomination.

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          It’s pretty hard to argue against the same reasoning that pushed Biden off the ticket. He IS too old, and clearly struggling, you put someone in their 40s and 50s across from Trump, he will look as badly as Biden did.

          • @[email protected]
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            Well… at minimum to anybody who publicly complained about bidens age.

            Now is there chance to not be a hypocrite. I hope Americans are calling it hypocrites this week. There will be many.

            • @[email protected]
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              Dosen’t matter, if you convince people to say a old candidate who can’t speak reasonably well is absolutely a danger to the country, you aren’t unconvincing them of that now that Trump is the old confused rambler on stage.

              • @[email protected]
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                You don’t have to convince them. You just have to ask them to behave the same way. And if they don’t. Then call them a hypocrite. To their face.

                Good luck!

      • @[email protected]
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        Yup. Kamala is also not a bad pick because republicans are almost certainly going to start with racism/sexism as their first attacks “Oh, she’s DEI”. Given trump has been trying to court the black/Latino vote, this will play against him.

        Further, Kamala will be able to excellently push him on abortion. Biden really sucked at advocating for women’s rights even though that’s been a winner pretty much every time it’s been the focus of a campaign (there’s a reason Rs have backed away from mentioning it).

        It’ll still be close and there’s still a lot of unknowns. However, I for one think this is the right move.

    • John Richard
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      FUCK YES!!! Finally the stubborn old man did what we knew he needed to do all along.

      • Sidyctism II.
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        from the article

        Election law expert Richard Hasen wrote that there is “no credence” to the notion that the Democratic Party could not legally replace Biden on the ticket, as he is not the nominee yet – the nominating process generally takes place during the Democratic National Convention.

      • @[email protected]
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        He definitely didn’t have zero chance, nobody knows what his chances would have been. This is all uncharted waters.

        • @[email protected]
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          He was literally doing the job and doing it well.

          Some of the accomplishments:

          Lowering Costs of Families’ Everyday Expenses. More People Are Working Than At Any Point in American History. Making More in America. Rescued the Economy and Changed the Course of the Pandemic. Rebuilding our infrastructure. Historic Expansion of Benefits and Services for Toxic Exposed Veterans. CHIP Act

          Here is the full list of his accomplishments.

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            Except he was failing at the most important job - stopping another 4 years of Trump. And yes, that’s partly the media’s fault, but it’s mostly Biden’s fault. Trump’s debate performance matched what could’ve been predicted pretty closely, and Biden failed to rebut Trump effectively and often seemed to help Trump argue against himself. For example, they should’ve easily foreseen that Trump would do the weird brag about his cognitive test scores. Why was there no response to that? Why not demand that Trump produce the results instead of just brag about them, or point out that nobody asked or is impressed by his ability to read a clock? There were like 50 opportunities during that debate for Biden to end Trump’s whole campaign, he missed each one.

            Clearly this was unacceptable, and I hope the next candidate dispenses with the vast majority of Biden’s election team.

          • @[email protected]
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            IMO, as an outsider, he has done a great job.
            Among many successes that have drifted across my news feeds, he has also excelled past the really low bar of “not making a mockery of the US”.

            That statement is not exclusive from the statement that “Biden should not run again”.

            It’s 4 years later. And he would have to do another 4 years if he won.
            I know presidents are more than just a person in the same way a ship can’t sail with only it’s captain. But strong leadership is going to make everything easier.
            And Biden is old.

          • @[email protected]
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            You’re not wrong, but the comparison I like here is Ruth Bader Ginsberg. She wasn’t just doing her job well, she was one of the best Supreme Court Justicies EVER.

            She didn’t resign when the time was right, and as a result she died under Trump, a republican got her seat, and all the great things she did were swiftly demolished, wrecking decades of work over one single mistake: Not knowing when to step down.

            Now I know the situation isn’t perfectly comparable. But if Trump gets in, then every good thing Biden has done will be swiftly undone. This was a hellish dilemma, but if Biden wants to do his job well, he needs to do that by not letting Trump into the White House again.

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              My mom doesn’t like when I talk about how badly RBG fucked the people she legitimately worked so hard to uplift and protect, in my opinion because of her ego. I hold very little resentment because I understand wanting to personally preserve your legacy, but that motivation seems to fail more often than allowing someone else to preserve it for you.

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    After the Schumer leak, this had to happen.

    It has to be Kamala and anyone thinking otherwise is dumb.

    And I don’t know if Kamala can win. I don’t know if she could do better than Joe would do. But I know she’ll do better than what would happen if Joe had a second debate like the first debate.

    If nothing else, this keeps it close.

  • Cyborganism
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    I don’t understand you people in this thread.

    Ever since the debate, people have been calling for Joe Biden to step down from the presidential race and give the place to someone else.

    Now I read the comments and everyone is criticizing and accusing the Democrats of not knowing what they’re doing? Are you for real? They’re doing EXACTLY what people have been asking for. They’re doing EXACTLY what needs to be done if they want to win.

    Fucking hell you guys, make up your fucking mind.

    Sincerely,

    A Canadian with severe anxiety over your next presidential election.

  • Chaotic Entropy
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    It feels like a lot of opportunities have been lost whilst waiting for the inevitable to happen.

  • @[email protected]
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    That’s why I’m never gonna cancel my USA subscription. Your shows always have a crazy twist right before the season finale.

    Jokes aside: Not a single person who even considers voting for Trump is worth any hassle. Their vote is a coin flip on fucking acid. The dems should try to animate the lazy nonvoting pricks.

  • @[email protected]
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    Now watch all the “I’m a leftist” people using Genocide Joe pivot over to some other talking point as soon as Putin gives them marching orders via Fox News.

  • @[email protected]
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    for everyone sake: phew. i feel sorry for him, he obviously lacks energy and needs to not be trying to run america and fight trump.

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    Wait wait, let me guess, now all of the sudden we’re not literally fascists for thinking that it would be best if Biden stepped down. A sincere fuck you too everyone who commented accordingly for the last month.

  • Tygr
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    11th hour switch and the delay in getting Biden to step down when they knew his brain was failing will be their downfall.

    All that money spent promoting Biden wasted. Good luck.

  • @[email protected]
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    This decision really raises my opinion of Biden so much. God damn do I love that man, he is truly a great person who dedicated his life to serve his country, literally. He honestly had a great term given the circumstances, and the only thing he probably should have done differently is to not run for reelection to begin with. But he seemed to genuinely believe he could win and stave off Trump. Now that that seemed impossible, he makes a very courageous decision that a lot of people probably wouldn’t have made and puts the country ahead of his ego. Lots of respect from me, and I hope this reinvigorates the democratic base and makes the future brighter for all of us.

  • Wytch
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    Spend some more time with the family, Joe. Thanks for grabbing the wheel, there. We’ll take it from here.

  • @[email protected]
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    Definitely should have happened 6 months ago, but better late than never - something about planting a tree.

    This also robs the GOP of the hE’s ToO oLd argument, which is one of their only effective attacks.

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    Biden must have received some sign from the Lord. I am confident he would have made for a great 2nd term, but I would also feel bad for his final legacy to be that he handed the election to Trump despite his 1st term successes.

    This is your moment, America. It’s in your hands now to see it through in November, kick Trump out no matter who the Democratic nominee will be.

    I’ll be keeping an eye on those particular accounts on Lemmy that were constantly calling for resignation, whether anyone as presidential nominee will satisfy them.