• @[email protected]
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    Honestly, it wasn’t the $7 coffee that turned me away from starbucks. It was the $7 coffee that taste like toilet water, when there are no shortage of local, cheaper coffee shops with amazing brews made by people who actually want to be there, who also won’t be fired for unionizing.

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    Started going to a small local coffee shop a little over two years ago, and I’ll never go back to the giant chains. The people working are always happy, greet regulars by name, always go out of their way to interact or talk with me- usually remember something we talked about before, comp my orders every now and then, host little events, etc. It’s not just them either - I always have a way better experience going to non-chain coffee places. Oh, and the coffee is always waay better and priced better.

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        Yeah! What’s your shoe size, OP? You got a dog? A cat? A mother? “Everyone” has one, right. You seriously expect us to believe that? Prove it! Come on, what’s her maiden name? Her date of birth? Her routing number! Where was she last thursday night, out back of bakers garage like she was supposed’ta be? Better make sure you get your facts straight OP, or me and my partner Flippy “The Iceman” here will show ya what we do to commenters down in jersey what don’t put up with our unreasonable demands, capiche?

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        The first thing Starbucks did when they bought Teavana was increase the prices by 25 - 50%, despite them already being on the upper end of local looseleaf tea shops.

        Combine that with the change from actual tea to sugar-added, Oprah approved crap signed the death warrant for that chain.

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      Dutch Bros is where it’s at. Actually good roasts and the same price or less. That said, I make my own Americano at home in about 2 min while making breakfast and it’s consistently great.

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        Dutch Bros. has been good every time I’ve tried them. I don’t believe their coffee is markedly better than any other coffee chain. It comes down to how much you pay your staff, so that they give a shit about their jobs, so that tasks like roasting beans and cleaning equipment is done properly and regularly.

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          Starbucks is known for its over roasted (burnt) flavor. That’s intentional. Dutch Bros doesn’t do that. Are they that much better than other smaller chains or independents? Probably not but they’re everywhere and easy to get in and out of.

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        I bought stock in them during their IPO and want them to succeed as a company since they’re from my home state, but honestly their coffee is terrible to me. I used to go there all the time but dislike it now after branching out more.

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      Sometimes I’ll work out of a small local cafe that roasts their own beans on site.

      It’s insane how much better the coffee is for the same price, and they know my order before I even say anything.

      Plus, I can get excellent beans from them to brew at home, and I’m supporting a local business instead of a megacorp.

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      Try $6.75 for their new refresher drinks. Flavored water over ice. No wonder sales are declining.

  • unalivejoy
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    I get free starbucks at work. It has to be pretty good to make it worth crossing the street to the main campus.

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    Outside of North America, same-store sales slid 7%. In China, Starbucks’ second-largest market, same-store sales tumbled 14% as both average ticket and transactions shrank. Starbucks has faced stiffer competition in China from local coffee shops that undercut the coffee giant on price.

    And that is the problem. Starbucks is not offering anything that doesn’t already exist. It pretends to be a coffee shop for the upper class because it sounds “sophisticated” to say grande instead of medium.

    I no longer go there. I know local coffee shops that offer a much better selection of coffees at a good price. And their atmosphere is authentic.

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      On reddit maybe be 12 years ago was a post about what it’s like to work there and apparently employees will straight up rage hate you if you say you don’t speak Starbucks.

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    Traffic to its U.S. stores fell again […] dropping 6%. Domestic same-store sales fell 2%, boosted by an increase in average ticket.

    So they had less people come in, and their response was to raise prices.

    Last quarter, executives discussed plans to revive the lagging U.S. business that included leaning on discounts

    Ah, yes, temporarily lower prices that you’ll need to install their tracking app for, I’m sure. They’ll use it to dial in the price-point at which each customer is willing to buy, offer “discounts” to just above that price, and then boil-the-frog until it reaches a price acceptable to corporate …

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    Americans learning why Starbucks struggles overseas. I’m guessing the maturity of small coffee shops has caught up to the rest of us, so better coffee at better pricing is more abundant.

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    I live in Seattle so I’m obviously not going to visit them when their are a dozen good small cafés within a stone throw of any Starbucks. On the few occasions that I have been there recently, the specialty drinks (I drink the occasional latte) are terrible. That should not be surprising since they are made by minimum wage teenagers. The food is crap. All of it is overpriced.

    Also, fuck Howard Schulz.

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    Starbucks used to be a pretty decent place. I mean, your preference for how the coffee tasted aside…they used to have newspapers, magazines, couches and other comfy furnishings, nice seating, the pastries were fresh, pretty damn good, and there was a decent variety. Decent coffee-making merch for sale, too. Their menu was coffee and espresso drinks. None of this choco-frosted-sugar-ice-bomb with coffee as an afterthought - if there’s any in the drink at all.

    Now? Cheap-ass furniture that invites you to take your coffee and gtfo. Buy a mug or insulated plastic drink glass. Pastries? Let’s pop those out of a plastic bag. Coffee? Minimal. Now it’s the aforementioned sugary drinks or other fruity drinks that have no coffee at all. There is no reason to go there unless your diabetes needs a challenge.

    Literally the only thing keeping me buying Starbucks is the loyalty app that gets me a free bag of coffee a couple times a year. Otherwise I’d go elsewhere. Once the loyalty program stops paying out, I’m gone.

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    The other day I was walking around, thinking about all the different coffee shops I could see, and wondering why people waste their money on starbucks and their burnt-ass coffee.

  • @[email protected]
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    I’ve seen a few of these articles and everyone is missing the bigger picture. Yes making better products will increase sales. However the main point that people don’t understand is that companies are recognizing that their prices are too high to drive sales and as such prices drop to reflect that. Meaning that inflation is shrinking. This is a huge win for Americans and I hope voters see that and vote accordingly.