Give me back my physical keyboard, and I’ll be happy alongside better battery life (or removable batteries).
The last thing I want is a phone I can mistake for a table mat when I’m tired, which I feel is how phones are going. What’s the new average screen size now? 27" or is that next year’s model?
I miss the formfactor of my Nokia E7…
My favourite keyboard was on my BlackBerry Bold 2.(9700 I think was the model number). The keys were shaped in a way that made touch typing an absolute breeze with the perfect amount of tactile feedback.
In the Blackberry range, the 9700 is damn cool, I have set up many of those with email through a Blackberry server, the one thing I missed was dedicated buttons for the Swedish characters ÅÄÖ, which the E7 has depending on the layout.
I believe the E7 is the coolest smartphone design ever, it’s like a mini laptop, combine the design of the E7 with apps like Putty touch and a Linux server with screen irssi and you will look like a hacker…
Screen irssi… That’s something I have not heard in a long time.
I just want a persistent number row. There’s plenty of room. Why can’t I have that, Apple? What possible benefit is there to anyone, of you holding that back?
Meh, phisical keyboards are a pain if you think how much hardware failure you add. At least now if you know what you are doing, you can keep alive a phone for a decade with custom roms
2010: We want bigger batteries, they give us colorful phones
2015 We want bigger batteries, they give us 1mm thinner phones
2020 We want bigger batteries, they give us 5 cameras
2025 We want bigger batteries, they give us AI
Phones are a great example of the utter failure of capitalism to address what people actually need and want.
Steve Jobs proved that consumers don’t actually know what they want until you tell them. And it’s the manufacturers job to tell them what they want and deliver it.
Since Apple doesn’t want a bigger battery that means no one gets a bigger battery.
jobs was an ass. and smelled like it
Nah man, everyone around him must have been smelling something else. He was on the all fruit diet.
fruit. that explains it
*folds phone in half*
That’s two batteries for the price of one.
More like two batteries for the price of two phones; foldables are still expensive AF
Two half-size batteries for the price of three full-size phones coming right up
I would like colourful phones back though, they were so much more fun compared to the sea of black/white/grey + ONE option in the blue-purple spectrum we have today.
Can we get that AND bigger batteries?..bigger colourful batteries even?
And cameras! Don’t replace 12mp 2x telephotos with 48mp 1x digital zoom cameras pls
They also keep taking away features, like removable storage (microSD) and headphone jacks. There’s a few phones that have them, but it gets more difficult to find them as time goes on.
Sony Xperia flagship has both. I think it’s the only Snapdragon 8g3 phone that does.
Create a problem, sell a solution. It’s so annoying.
headphone jack -> sell bluetooth headphones
microSD -> sell cloud storageCreate a problem, sell a solution
Under the guise of “innovation”
Late stage capitalism
yeah but you can’t set inflate your stock value based on hype about battery life.
people forget that these features aren’t for users. it’s for idiots who invest in ridiculous shit hoping it to be the next big thing.
I’m staying on iOS 18.0.1 without the AI Apple crap
“The only thing we bothered changing in the new model is we added a robot that hoovers even more of your data and then lies to you confidently!”
Welcome to the Luddite convention here.
It’s so gimmicky compared to something actually useful, like better battery.
Do people here actually use AI? And if so…for what?
I use it to summarize things for me. Or rewrite something I’ve written a bit better. I usually need to spot check it, but it’s still nice to have.
rewrite something I’ve written a bit better
Woah, that’s the biggest bummer of a reason I’ve seen for it. If you read good stuff and write stuff you’d get better at it.
People are treating AI like crypto, and on some level I don’t blame them because a lot of hype-bros moved from crypto to AI. You can blame the silicon valley hype machine + Wall Street rewarding and punishing companies for going all in or not doing enough, respectively, for the Lemmy anti-new-tech tenor.
That and lemmy seema full of angsty asshats and curmudgeons that love to dogpile things. They feel like they have to counter balance the hype. Sure, that’s fair.
But with AI there is something there.
I use all sorts of AI on a daily basis. I’d venture to say most everyone reading this uses it without even knowing.
I set up my server to transcribe and diarize my my favorite podcasts that I’ve been listening to for 20 years. Whisper transcribes, pyannote diarieizes, gpt4o uses context clues to find and replace “speaker01” with “Leo”, and the. It saves those transcripts so that I can easily switch them. It’s a fun a hobby thing but this type of thing is hugely useful and applicable to large companies and individuals alike.
I use kagi’s assistant (which basically lets you access all the big models) on a daily basis for searching stuff, drafting boilerplate for emails, recipes, etc.
I have a local llm with ragw that I use for more personal stuff like, I had it do the BS work for my performance plan using notes I’d taken from the year. I’ve had it help me reword my resume.
I have it parse huge policy memos into things I actually might give a shit about.
I’ve used it to run though a bunch of semi-structured data on documents and pull relevant data. It’s not necessarily precise but it’s accurate enough for my use case.
There is a tool we use that uses CV to do sentiment analysis of users (as they use websites/apps) so we can improve our ux / cx. There’s some ml tooling that also can tell if someone’s getting frustrated. By the way, they’re moving their mouse if they’re thrashing it or what not.
There’s also a couple use cases that I think we’re looking at at work to help eliminate bias so things like parsing through a bunch of resumes. There’s always a human bias when you’re doing that and there’s evidence that shows llms can do that with less bias than a human and maybe it’ll lead to better results or selections.
So I guess all that to say is I find myself using AI or ml llms on a pretty frequent basis and I see a lot of value in what they can provide. I don’t think it’s going to take people’s jobs. I don’t think it’s going to solve world hunger. I don’t think it’s going to do much of what the hypros say. I don’t think we’re anywhere near AGI, but I do think that there is something there and I think it’s going to change the way we interact with our technology moving forward and I think it’s a great thing.
The problem is basically this: if you’re a knowledge worker, then yes, your ass is at risk.
If your job is to summarize policy documents and write corpo-speak documents and then sit in meetings for hours to talk about what you’ve been doing, and you’re using the AI to do it, then your employer doesn’t really need you. They could just use the AI to do that and save the money they’re paying you.
Right now they probably won’t be replacing anyone other than the bottom of the ladder support types, but 5 years? 10? 15?
If your job is typing on a keyboard and then talking to someone else about all the typing you’ve done, you’re directly at risk, eventually.
So here’s the path that you’re envisioning:
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Someone wants to send you a communication of some sort. They draft a series of bullet points or short version.
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They have an LLM elaborate it into a long-form email or report.
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They send the long-from to you.
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You receive it and have an LLM summarize the long-form into a short-form.
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You read the short form.
Do you realize how stupid this whole process is? The LLM in step (2) cannot create new useful information from nothing. It is simply elaborating on the bullet points or short version of whatever was fed to it. It’s extrapolating and elaborating, and it is doing so in a lossy manner. Then in step (4), you go through ANOTHER lossy process. The LLM in step (4) is summarizing things, and it might be removing some of the original real information the human created in step (1), rather than the useless fluff the LLM in step (2) added.
WHY NOT JUST HAVE THE PERSON DIRECTLY SEND YOU THE BULLET POINTS FROM STEP (1)???!!
This is idiocy. Pure and simply idiocy. We send start with a series of bullet points, and we end with a series of bullet points, and it’s translated through two separate lossy translation matrices. And we pointlessly burn huge amounts of electricity in the process.
This is fucking stupid. If no one is actually going to read the long-form communications, the long-form communications SHOULDN’T EXIST.
Also neither side necessarily knows the others filter chain. Generational loss could grow exponentially. Not only loss but addition by fabrication. Each side trading back and forth indeterminate deletions/additions. It’s worse than traditional generational loss. It’s generational noise which can resemble signal too.
So if I receive a long form then how do I know if the substantial text is worth reading for the nuance from an actual human being. I can’t tell that apart from generated filler. If a human wrote the long form then maybe they’ve elaborated some nuance that deserved long form.
On the flip side of the same coin. If I receive a short form either generated by me or them. Then to what degree can I trust the indeterminate noisy summary. I just have to trust that the LLM picked out precisely the key points that the author wanted to convey. And trust that nuance was not lost, skewed, or fabricated.
It would be inevitable that two sides end up in a shooting war. Proverbial or otherwise. Because two communiques were playing a fancy game of telephone. Information that was lost or fabricated resulted in an incident but neither side knows which shot first because nobody realized the miscommunication started happening several generations ago.
That’s not what I am envisioning at all. That would be absurd.
Ironically, an gpt4o understood my post better than you :P
" Overall, your perspective appreciates the real-world applications and benefits of AI while maintaining a critical eye on the surrounding hype and skepticism. You see AI as a transformative tool that, when used appropriately, can enhance both individual and organizational capabilities."
if you believe that ai summary, i have a bridge that i’d like to sell to you.
As the author of the post it summarized, I agree with the summary.
Now, tell me more about this bridge.
do look up the “forer effect” and then read that ai summary again.
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I use AI for what Google used to be able to do: Finding answers to simple questions. Usually about tech but sometimes movies or music. Like how do I add a physical volume to LVM, or what are the specs of this little fan model? Or who was that actress in a movie about kids buried in a collapsed building? Things like that…
Summarizing, drafting things, understanding complex things that are filled with jargon, etc.
- Write stream of consciousness and have AI turn it into a decent email
- Tell me the name of this thing so I can research it
- Coding, but don’t expect it to be a good coding tutor
- Bedtime stories where kids decide what happens next and I don’t always have to tax my brain after a long day of work
- I’m taking a road trip to San Francisco. Plan it for me with stops for sightseeing, eating, and sleeping.
Mostly stupid stuff involving sailor moon for me, using the lie machine for anything but funny pictures seems like maybe a bad idea at the moment:
Also I want my OS to be an actual OS with root access. I want Linux in particular.
Like you know, you can setup a file share to back up files. You can back up your phone and get a new one easily. If you lost a phone you can bring it back. Your files organized the way you want and not some things here and done things there like the apps want.
The features customers actually want vs what the shareholders tell them they want.
Can we please stop calling LLMs artificial intelligence?
If you don’t think this counts as AI, can you give us an example of some function or behavior that you would consider AI?
Reasoning, sentience, and the ability, over time, to improve. There’s more, but that’s the top three.
No. Strictly and technically speaking, LLMs absolutely fall under the category of AI. You’re thinking of AGI, which is a subset of AI, and which LLMs will be a necessary but insufficient component of.
I’m an AI Engineer; I’ve taken to, in my circles, calling AI “Algorithmic Intelligence” rather than “Artificial Intelligence.” It’s far more fitting term for what is happening. But until the Yanns and Ngs and Hintons of the field start calling it that, we’re stuck with it.
I like your definition. Algorithmic intelligence fits much better. And thanks for giving me a rabbit hole (AGI) to dive into.
Where intelligence in spitting out samples from big data vaguely related to prompt?
Approximate Intelligence fits just as well me thinks
I know more humans that fit that description than language models.
I see that
Let’s just settle on SI, Schrödiger intelligence.
People have been asking for thicker phones with more battery for years. Wth
I totally forgot it even had that. The people I talk to only talk about the new side button.
When I replaced my 5 year old phone the only two benefits I saw was OLED screen (never going without again) and the battery life going from maybe a day to like 40 hours
Maybe your old phone’s screen sucked. I switched from flagship 2021 OLED phone to mid-tier IPS 2020 phone. I prefer IPS, because it crisper and have more neutral colors. And more important, it doesn’t have stupid waterfall edges.
I just replaced my iPhone older than six years old with a 16 Pro Max… OLED to OLED, but now 120hz. Magnificent. And yeah, the battery lasts forever now.
Literally just give us phones that can do what they could do 10 years ago, with modern batteries.
You know what would be good? Headphone jack, and great batteries yes, but how about something easily self repairable? Or shit replaceable batteries would be nice too.
My ideal would basically be a modern version of the lg v20 - give me that removable battery, headphone jack, microsd slot, etc and just give me the current gen on chipset, screen, camera, etc.
No AI, no preloaded nonsense I can’t get rid of, I don’t care that it could be 0.000004mm thinner without the jack.
Its never been about what the consumer wants, its about driving “features” that will make more profits.
If it works with some custom software like GrapheneOS I’d buy this in a heartbeat
Not even out.of the box, just run nexus style - unlock if you want but support is now your own problem.
Which works for me regardless.
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this. put the sensors, audio jack, notification led, ir blaster back!
And fuck off with the ai!
LED notifications and physical keyboards. I miss my Blackberry
God me too. I feel like such a luddite whenever I bring this up. Touch screen keys even with swipe to text are terrible
It can be helpful when you use multiple keyboard layouts
You know, almost every phone still has an ir blaster… It’s just not made Available to you.
(Auto focusing in cameras is largely done via an ir blaster and corrisponding receiver)
I just want both the Touch ID and the Face ID on my damn phone…
I want it to be like the glory days of the Note 8/9. You want a FP reader? Its on the back and it works really well! You want Facial recognition? How about iris scans as well! Notification LED, aux jack, and a Pen built right in! Not enough storage, pop in a MicroSD. Only thing that was missing was easily swapped batteries! It all went downhill from here imo
That’s an interesting take. Thinking about it, I think I agree with you.
