• @[email protected]
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    676 months ago

    It’s very interesting that pro-Luigi posts are immediately and universally censored while pro-Jan. 6th posts are given a lot more leeway. Both were attacks on powerful members of the ruling class, but only one group of sympathizers is being completely shut down. It’s tempting to think that it’s because tech billionaires have a right-wing bias, but I actually think it’s worse than that. I think it’s because the January 6th riots represented a partisan divide, while Luigi’s (alleged) actions have received bipartisan sympathy. Apparently, violence and terrorism are acceptable unless they lead to class solidarity.

    • Flying Squid
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      166 months ago

      I agree with you, but I am very worried that any possible copycats might be less discerning. Especially if CEOs start hiring security forces and there are either gun battles or bombings where people get caught in the crossfire.

      Not every person with the same agenda as Luigi Mangione’s will be as careful to only hit their target.

      • deaf_fish
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        I see having a reasonable take on this is also giving you downvotes. I think the pro Luigi group has a problematic subgroup that wants to murder anyone.

        If it were up to me, I’d start figuring out a way to separate that subgroup out. Otherwise you’re going to end up with someone randomly murdering and painting the whole thing as just murderers with no ideological point. That will kill whatever good work this is done.

        • Dragon Rider (drag)
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          And yet some people are already trying to paint this act of self defence as a murder, and citing as evidence collateral damage that hasn’t even happened yet and may never happen. It’s a slippery slope fallacy. We have laws. Luigi is innocent and we can’t punish Luigi just because somebody might copy what he allegedly did badly and cause collateral.

          • deaf_fish
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            46 months ago

            Self defense? Are you implying the CEO was going harm Luigi directly? Or eventually though healthcare denial?

      • @[email protected]
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        ere are either gun battles or bombings where people get caught in the crossfire.

        On the upside, president has been set, even perceived attempts might sway for better decisions.

        • Flying Squid
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          I do not think innocent people being killed because of their proximity to a CEO has an upside.

          • @[email protected]
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            66 months ago

            I do not think innocent people being killed

            I’m not saying anyone needs to be truly violent. Even perceived attempts would have momentum. Milkshakes might be enough now that they know it can escalate.

    • @[email protected]
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      66 months ago

      It’s really important to remember in this day and age to not cause widespread suffering to a large number of everyday people who are just going about their normal daily lives.

      Someone needs to tell the CEOs.

    • @[email protected]
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      This is actually a good point. It seems like, these days, most public violence like this, ends up with a senseless killing spree, and dead bystanders.

  • @[email protected]
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    676 months ago

    Let’s keep posting about Brian Thompson, and every other billionaire, being a mass murderer. That’s all the billionaire class is. Criminals, grifters, less than human murderers protected by the ruling class. US “democracy” working as intended.

  • @[email protected]
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    536 months ago

    its only challenging to moderate because corporate media is struggling to silence the majority without making it look like they are silencing the majority and provoking outrage towards them and their CEOs.

  • JohnnyFlapHoleSeed
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    You mean it’s a challenge to censor and suppress popular sentiment? Maybe stop fucking trying

    • @[email protected]
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      116 months ago

      Can you even fucking imagine if this was about China? The liberal Reddit Lemmitors would be frothing at the mouth about The Great Evil. Meanwhile it’s just another boring article in the freest greatest nation in the world.

  • @[email protected]
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    1386 months ago

    censorship, not moderation. and of course free speech only applies to enabling racism and such

      • Flying Squid
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        276 months ago

        And it doesn’t always apply to governments. The Lemmy.world server is in The Netherlands. It’s illegal in The Netherlands to threaten violence. So posts threatening violence are deleted so that Lemmy.world can stick around.

        This makes some people who feel like they should be allowed to say whatever they want, wherever they want angry at us moderators, but we like Lemmy.world and they don’t have to be here if they don’t want to. Unfortunately, some people have a massive sense of entitlement, as the ban evader in World News who told me that he shall not be censored found out the hard way this morning.

        Sorry, your right to threaten to kill someone is less important to me than Lemmy.world sticking around. There are other Lemmy servers that might allow it, but this one doesn’t for legal reasons.

        • @[email protected]
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          56 months ago

          The government claims a monopoly on violence and the violence of the government is supposed to be well regulated and democratically legitimated.

          However this only works, if there is actual checks and balances and the question whether people are held accountable to their crimes does not depend on their income, net worth or connections.