The study, conducted by Dr Demid Getik, explores how mental health is related to income make-up within couples by examining the link between annual income rises for women and the number of clinical mental health diagnoses over a set period of time.
The study finds that as more women take on the breadwinner role in the household, the number of mental health related incidences also increases.
As wives begin earning more than their husbands, the probability of receiving a mental health diagnosis increases by as much as 8% for all those observed in the study, but by as much as 11% for the men.
Please Lord let me find a woman that makes the same as me and I’ll happily retire a Pinterest mom and support her career. I love my kid, my home, my time, my flexibility, optimizing systems with cart blanche…
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I would suggest that “Wives earning more than husbands” isn’t the issue so much as “Cost of living is outpacing household earnings and men have been conditioned through generations of patriarchy to believe this is a personal failing rather than a broad economic shift”.
If your wife is bringing in seven figures, I doubt the husband will lose much sleep. But if you’re looking at a $30k paycheck to your wife’s $40k paycheck, and you both acknowledge the total isn’t enough to live on, there’s a lot of anxiety to go around in that situation.
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This is really sad, tbh.
I personally would be freaking stoked. Would love to be a stay at home hubs, too.
oh yeah but I would not want that much pressure on my wife. Would want to make enough to at least get us by in a pinch.
It’s genuinely upsetting. The option to be a house wife/husband is becoming rarer. Everyone needs to work to provide enough for the household. House hubbies are lucky men.
Dude, me too, and I would kill at it.
Sadly, based on skills and the job market where we’re at, I can make more working.
Same. My skillset and interests align with being a house spouse, not making money. Single tho, and trying to make a beautiful home while working full time leads to many compromises
That’s what we found out.
My wife enjoys her work, finds it rewarding, etc. etc. and has never been really content as a homemaker. My job is alright, but I don’t feel any real passion for it, and I don’t need a work atmosphere or to be around a lot of people to stay engaged. I’m happy just keeping things organized and running smoothly in my own little corner of the world.
I make just a little less than we need for her to stay home, and she makes peanuts in comparison.
It really hacks me off. She works in education, what she does is far more important to the well-being of society than what I do. If our paychecks were reversed, and they honestly should be reversed, I’d be happy to stay home or work part time but it’s just not financially feasible.
Men who are uncomfortable with their wives earning more money are also probably more prone to feeling some stigma around addressing their own mental health issues
are dudes really upset over this? grow up! jesus.
More like their “provider status” is now poof & women will discard them for an even higher earning husbands
women will discard them for an even higher earning husbands
Isn’t half the problem that “higher earning husbands” are in increasingly short supply?
Are we predicting a future of patriarchal mega-earners cultivating harems of middle-income working professionals? Or will the skyrocketing cost of living just going to turn the Surplus Males into fodder for our next generation of foreign wars, while an increasing population of lesbians fills in all the office jobs at depressed professional wages?
Why are high-earning men in short supply ?
There’s a shortage of high paying jobs, for starters.
Why is there a shortage ?
Not enough employers offering high wages
Yeah lmao people with mental health issues should just get over it
“women have a higher chance to develop eating disorders when consuming more social media”
are gals really upset over this? grow up! jesus
maybe instead of judging the individual we should look at how traditional societal expectations about gender interact with modern capitalist society and realize that what may have worked to some degree 100 years ago can no longer work today
what may have worked to some degree 100 years ago can no longer work today
Not because there’s a shortage of consumer goods or real estate or daylight hours. Because there’s a shrinking pool of gainful employment and steadily rising costs of living. These are entirely engineered problems, with low wage service sector and gig-work jobs eclipsing higher wage jobs that can sustain a household on a single income.
This study doesn’t actually have the data to conclude that. It could simply be these relationships are highly correlated with people who are secure enough to know that seeking therapy is healthy.
i want my wife to earn more than me; she sure deserves it. she has a higher education and a job that actually matters to humanity. i have a desk job that makes computers go beep. its absurd how low her pay is :(
Wow, you and me have the same life it seems. My wife went to college, has her masters and 1 year shy of getting her PHD. and is a special education teacher making nothing crazy. I have no school and I am an IT admin and recently moved to networking and make only slightly more. She thinks I will be someone who cares that she makes more than me, and I say why? Why would I want us to have a harder time than we already have now? Please make more, make a lot more if you can! We only benefit more with peace of mind, I can care less who it comes from.
Some decent news is they work in steps so every year they are guaranteed a raise and she’s around step 15 of 20 which after looking at the steps the first 13 are awful and now the next 5 years are huge. Like so big that each year is basically the equivalent of the past 13 combined. So, considering how stagnant I’ve been, she will pass me by a decent amount within the next 5 years.
I’m in the same boat. I happen to earn more, but not really through my own education/merit/worth to society - just by virtue of the industry I work in and that I can also make computers go beep sometimes.
For a while, my wife did earn more than me, and that was fine. My job was easier, so I did more housework and took some of the stress off her.
Imo it’s wild to be upset that you are earning more as a team just because the person earning the most on the team is a woman. Patriarchy is a hell of a drug
Specifically on women’s mental health deteriorating in this situation, often this can occur when she’s still expected to pick up the majority (or all) of domestic labor in addition to her well-paying job. Women are still largely expected to “do it all” by not only their partners but by society. If you’re not a perfect businesswoman, mother, and domestic servant all in one all the time, well you’re failing your spouse, your children, your boss, your identity as a woman, etc. Women don’t just need their male partners to step up for them in labor alone, but also to reevaluate their social role that they are propagating through their (in)actions. What are you teaching your kid if mom is the only one who cooks dinner? Or cleans regularly without reminders? Or keeps track of doctor’s visits, field trips, etc?
I was curious on that too. I think just saying they’re more stressed feeds into the “You little ladies don’t really like working, makes that brain hurt” rhetoric.
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My SO teaches religion parttime and makes more than I do working fulltime in IT. Power to her. If I wanted the same I should’ve become a teacher too.
That’s quite amazing. Where do teachers earn more than IT?
Religious institutions, apparently?
This has to depend on the guy. My ex, he always made less $ than me because I went to college after having kids and got a better job, then asked him if he wanted to do the same he said no, and we made enough as long as we both worked, it wasn’t anything we really thought about, only about hours worked by each of us. Now when he was unemployed it all went to hell, but not as long as he worked at all. I valued his work, not the wage.
My husband, he wants to make more than me but sees it as a challenge, he wants me to make more money, because it would motivate him to make more money, he just wants us to have more money. He is very happy for me to succeed, and I’m valued for contributions at home and making money, and (critically important) he does as much as me around the house, and our busy work seasons aren’t at the same time so we are able to support each other during those months. I do think it’s a sexist thing (he does too but still feels it) but don’t actually care, it works fine for us in practice.
Yes, the link is this:
When all the adults in the household have to work 40+ hours a week, plus commute, plus all the adulting…they get sad since this is fucking toxic.
Also no one has time for civics.
Also no one has time to parent, so the kids are sad too.
If we’re looking at mental health problems, lets look here first.
You missed manly man not manly enough and now sad too.
You’re right, patriarchal demands are toxic on men too and that’s where the stress comes from.
Could have said that instead of being dismissive about it though.
Been divorced since forever, and with age comes wisdom. I think it would be fantastic if I had a high earning wife. Really…
Men that are upset that their wives out-earn them are missing the point of marriage. The point of marriage isn’t him vs her, its the two of you together against the world. If she is earning more than him, then that benefits him too because he’s part of the marriage.
I’m constantly astonished when I hear of men that are upset by their wives out-earning them. Some of these men have even sabotaged their wife’s work or changed the circumstances at home preventing her from continuing in the job where she out-earns him. My only hope for these women is they realize their husband’s love is conditional on him being dominant over her, and that she seeks out a better future where she can be her best self.
Yup I remember hearing this for the first time talking to a co-worker. He would never date anyone making more than him in $. I was so confused cause I’m happy my wife makes more $ than me. Which is the reason I went back to school cause I wanted to help with contribute more. I see my wife as an equal and nothing less. We do the same amount of work around the house and cook and all that. Why marry if you do not see your partner as an equal being.
My other coworkers were confused as well. Guy had weird values when it came to women.
Why are you against the world?
The world is against the individual, or in this case the married couple.
Nah, its really only 1% that’s against you.
Solidarity. We are many, they are few.
The world is more than just the 1%.
A wind storm damaging the roof of the house has nothing to do with the 1%. Yet it will still negatively affect the married couple if they don’t have the resources to fix the roof.
I would guess those men are afraid the woman will curtail the man’s spending, take control of financial desicions, make larger choices about their lives, and have free will over various entertainment and social activities. Because that’s what he’d do with reversed roles. It’s fear by projection. Throw in gaslighting and obstruction and I feel like I know the demogrqphic afraid of underearning.
Why is there an increase in mental health diagnoses recently?
Looks around at the state of the world. Tyranny on the rise; human right being violated across the globe; climate crisis set to boil humanity alive; tech companies funding dictators.
My hypothesis is that it is the fault of women.
It certainly doesn’t help that men and women are more adversarial than they have ever been. The cause may be just, but at the end of the day everyone is just lonely and miserable, and afraid of the other.
[Translation: Correlation does not equal causation.]
Maybe this happens because the woman who earns more often emasculates her husband with snide remarks or jabs. Unlike the other way round where men are expected to earn more than their spouse otherwise they’re “less of a man”.
Maybe that’s contributing to the higher mental health issues.
