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Just look at the Proton situation - there will always be soyflakes who will wanna protest even the smallest things that don’t fit their agenda.
Relevant username.
huh
Don’t worry about it
alr junky
Cousin that is called voting with your wallet
A valid argument, and a practice that should absolutely be encouraged in and of itself. When it comes to cancel Culture, and weaponizing hearsay and defamation to try to actively sabotage an entire company or a person without evidence or due process, that’s one thing I think has gotten out of hand. But the practice of voting with your wallet is your right, healthy for our economy and the businesses that contribute to it, and is not inherently predatory or antagonistic, unlike what Cancel Culture has become.
He’s getting very Trumpy with the orange tint and pale skin around the eyes.
That’s just him using a tanning bed.
Trumps too lazy to even use one.He needs to slow it down because it’s very noticably aging him. Kids, don’t bake your skin in cancer rays just for some outdated 80s “bronze” Baywatch look.
Actually, maybe he needs to do even more sessions now that I think about it.
But what if I wanna feel like one of those hip young old folks from the soda commercial?
Remember kids: wear sunscreen.
Usually his eyes are the same color as his skin. So good for him on trying to improve himself.
Other than that he can fuck off lol
His warranty is about to expire
His eyes have always had that going on.
I swear I’ve seen this one before…
It was on that one show, right?
I’m somehow more creeped out by the Greatest American Hero hairstyling.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_greatest_american_hero/s01
It comes preinstalled in a lot of phones and cant be uninstalled and in some phones they dont preinstall the main fb app instead they’d have something like ‘facebook manager’ or ‘something service’ which only shows up in app list when you select the “show system apps” option.
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Nope. My Galaxy S23 is unlocked and it has Facebook and Meta crap installed as “system” apps. Same with an older Sony phone.
Weirdly enough, the best manufacturers for minimum bloat ware are the Chinese brands. Doogee and Ulefone have the bare minimum, just the basic Google apps.
Just use UAD to disable the service, easy
I’ve read stories that fb is basically the internet for countries in Africa. It’s their version of America Online, but much worse.
Thats what internet.org was about, fb partnered with major telecoms in many countries with no net neutrality laws to let people use fb for free and a few other websites but except for wikipedia most were pretty much useless.
Internet.org redirects to https://about.meta.com/ just FYI.
Probably because you’re accessing it from a country where its not available. free.facebook.com is also another link that only works in countries their internet.org is available in.
I think that just further proves how bad it is, with both links. I wasn’t aware it was so expansive.
In mexico most (if not all) cell service providers give social media for free, ie it uses no data in your phone plan.
What is social media, according to these companies? Facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram. That’s it. Everyone uses Facebook marketplace and WhatsApp for everything, because it’s “free”.
I think most people don’t understand the stranglehold Meta has over a huge portion of the world’s population. I’m confident this arrangement is not only going on in mexico.
That’s a great strategy for creating a stranglehold on the market. I hate it.
And that’s why net neutrality is important!
Hopefully NN didn’t get absolutely killed this last time it was shot down.
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Gud gud
I posted that article on Mastodon. So, yeah…
I hope more people will find that these open source social media sites are much better run. As well, as a much better platform than Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, etc.
Although, I do miss Myspace. The old platform.
I deactivated my Twitter and Facebook accounts weeks ago. I have my friends and family “moved over” to Friendica. They seem to like it so far. I have even posted (on Friendica) a few links of other open source social sites for them to check out.
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I’m so happy to be here and read about Zuck, Elon and Google all the time
I’ve never had even a single Facebook account, to explain why it’s because the UK police once tried to stitch me up and they kept demanding my Facebook account (presumably to fish) I never had one but they would not let that go.
Once I got representation that line of questioning ended but holy hell did they seem to put a lot of emphasis on my non existent Facebook account.
For the curious I was raided due to an anonymous phone (to the mayor’s office) call that claimed I was going to shoot up my workplace or something ridiculous.
My belief is the police wanted to impress the mayor so they just wouldn’t let it go despite being nonsense until I paid representation to make them behave.
This is actually crazy, on the part of the UK police. I knew the UK government are more like that nosy old granny with binoculars than we have it in the States when it comes to stuff like Facebook and etc, but damn. I will allow that school shooting threats are serious, but in and of itself, actively trying to interrogate someone and demanding their SNS is a new level of invasive imo.
Meta did not end fact checking.
Meta switched to a system of community notes, which is superior at fact checking than a centralized team of fact checkers.
So community notes can address more instances of misinformation, that part is true.
But if the community provides misinformation as the “note” then it can actually spread and legitimize misinformation.
So superior is definitely the wrong word for it. Perhaps more efficient? But also more likely to reinforce echo chambers.
Superior would be implementing community notes and then having those checked by centralized fact checkers.
Thats the nifty part, for centralized fact-checkers we just use LLMs!
“fact”-checkers… This is probably a good prefilter, but definitely one of the few (or rather many) things that LLMs are pretty bad in…
Will never happen. Those platforms literally push addiction. It’s why the fediverse won’t ever compete imo - there’s no dopamine hit here of likes, # of friends, send a snap right now (or whatever they are called), streaks, etc.
i agree with what you’re saying and i think we’re mostly on the same page here. i just felt it would be worth saying that, from my perspective, the point of the fediverse isn’t to compete with those websites but instead to be an alternative to them. it’s to offer a picture of what social media can be like without dark patterns, extreme surveillance, and constant enshittification. and there is a really comfort in that. it feels really nice to not have to worry about a website or app getting worse every time i use it.
i also feel like the people on here tend to behave more thoughtfully (in general) than people on reddit and other for profit social media websites. and it wouldn’t surprise me if that was in part due to the absence of dark patterns making lemmy feel more relaxed and less high stakes. there’s also a bit of a small town feeling on this website that i kind of like too.
I get it. I left Facebook when they changed the feed like a thousand years ago and I haven’t missed it.
My wife is definitely addicted though. She left it for a year, went back just to check in on family after a friend of hers had a baby and she didn’t know about it. She hasn’t put it down since.
She’s a very family oriented person and everyone is on Facebook. Their family is the type to wake up first thing in the morning and start calling each other.
Within minutes of being up, “Ok kids let’s talk to mamaw. Let’s talk to aunty. Now we’re calling great grandma!” Cousins, aunts, uncles, everybody. They’re always talking.
My family is tight like if something goes wrong, but we don’t talk much otherwise. Sister needs help with a bill, someone’s car breaks down, blah blah blah. We can count on each other, just not to talk.
I get why it means so much to her and why it’s been easier for me. I’ll know my cousin had a kid when I bump into her with it at the grocery store. That’s good enough for my people. :p
Edit:
Not that anyone will see this, but we were talking about it tonight and I was dead wrong. She missed her cousins wedding. That’s why she went back, she’s still very sad about it.
And this is exactly the reason I am here 😃
I don’t want to see this human’s face again.
“human”
unfortunately yes
I’d like to punchasize his face, for free.
According to Google Trends, related searches like “how to delete all photos facebook,” “alternative to facebook,” “how to quit facebook,” “how to delete threads account,” and “how to delete instagram account without logging in” have become breakout searches, with popularity suddenly increasing by over 5,000% compared to previous periods.
So that is 51 times higher than usual? Am I mathing that correctly?
I wish stories like this wouldn’t use percentages this way, and reported hard actual numbers to compare against.
Yeah so if it was 100 queries per day before, its now 5100 per day. Or maybe we are both crazy.
And those are real users too. They are intching closer and close to just being a bot hellscape.
So true… When I see 100% more, I interpret it as 2x. But somewhere around, idk, maybe 300% I interpret “300% more” as 3x. I know that’s technically not correct, but it’s just where my brain goes. I think a good deal of people just throw around “n% more” and “n% as often” interchangeably without much thought.
Luckily, the bigger the number the less of a difference between the two which is aligned with my brain using them the same.
(And obviously, if it’s anything technical where it matters I would get clarification.)
Yeah,
1 + (1*5000%) = 51Honestly I prefer just writing “51 times more frequent”.
We all know that in the end only maybe 1 or 2% max will delete their account
meh its no longer growing.
I’d delete mine, but I don’t have one for 10 years or smth.
That’s fine. 1% per uberweird news cycle is the death of facebook.
Exactly this. Wasn’t Netflix going to sink after everyone cancelled when password sharing was banned? But everyone I know just ended up buying extra logins…
stop upvoting “news” that only ends up giving more visibility to these clowns
I think Facebook is popular enough, that this kind of news is actually damaging…
I’m waiting to see what happens before I make any moves. I’ve been on Meta apps for over a decade, I don’t want to lose the connections if I don’t have to.
I know this got a lot of downvotes, that’s fine. Most of my friends are not tech-savvy or young, they’re not going to be signing up for Lemmy or Mastodon. I’m not ready to lose touch with them entirely. I have taken steps to limit what info Meta can collect from me and stopped posting there entirely. I check in now and then to see if there’s anything big, but that’s it.
How many of those connections would you say are actively maintained instead of just passively there?
Those that are actively maintained you can likely send them something like Signal and start chatting on that instead.
Critics see the move as an attempt to cater to the incoming Trump administration and avoid political retaliation,
Give me a break. Since when does the billionaire parasite class have anything to fear from the US establishment?
Since the people in charge went full fascist.
The billionaire parasite class ARE the people in charge.
The fascists serve them, genius. That’s the whole point of fascism.
Yes that’s what we’re Increasingly moving towards.
Beware though, that all of this is a spectrum…
Yes that’s what we’re Increasingly moving towards.
Nope. We’ve been there for a long, long time now. People are only figuring it out now, though.
Beware though, that all of this is a spectrum…
The (so-called) “political spectrum” becomes perfectly irrelevant once you understand WHY and HOW our political establishments dangle the liberal carrot and the fascist stick before us.
Nope. We’ve been there for a long, long time now.
To a degree yes, but the intensity changes. And I know there were times, where there was even greater inequality (e.g. Mansa Musa). Yet it’s not really comparable with the modern world, which largely relies on speculative assets, and growth.
becomes perfectly irrelevant
No it doesn’t, fascism is a different level than liberal establishments. Our democracies are far from perfect, but they at least have some form of control by the people, to keep power somewhat in check. Fascism is definitely concentrating on centralizing power, with the tendency to escalate (as obviously seen in the past). Also there are a lot of statistics, which show, that we were in a comparably very peaceful state for some time (since the last world war), but we’re currently getting out of that period again (though still relatively peaceful), into a more autocratic world again unfortunately.
I’m speaking as european, where things are not (yet) that bad. The “democracy” in the USA is definitely less democratic than let’s say scandinavian democracies… And I don’t want to even begin with something like Russia or China.
No it doesn’t,
How many times will the liberal establishments have to blatantly show you what it truly is before you believe them? They’ve been doing it at least since 1919, but it has never been more blatant than now.
Since you’re European, I’d like to know what thought-terminating cliches you use to explain to yourself why Germany’s oh-so-liberal political establishment has co-existed, side-by-side, with a securotocracy that was filled to the brim with Nazi war criminals ever since the end of WW2.
You’d think the oh-so-liberal Global North being exposed red-handed funding yet another colonialist genocide would make a dent in those cliches, but I guess it’s true what the anarchists say… scratch a fascist and a liberal bleeds.
Fascism is definitely concentrating on centralizing power,
Fascists don’t “concentrate” power - they are HANDED power that has ALREADY been concentrated FOR them. You wanna guess who it is that concentrates it before handing it over to them? Do tell… how has police funding been doing under all these liberal regimes in Europe, eh?
Let me ELI5 it to you so that you cannot claim nobody told you.
The capitalist ruling elite, like all ruling elites throughout history, requires TWO things to stabilize their own power and privilege. They need a way to CO-OPT certain segments of the populace they rule over, and a way to brutally REPRESS those parts they can’t or don’t want to co-opt. Carrot and stick - no need for a fancy poli-sci degree to understand this.
Therefore, the capitalists have developed a POLITICAL wing, which we call “liberalism,” and a REPRESSIVE wing, which we call “fascism.” That is what they have been since the start (ie, long before Mussolini gave fascism a name) - and which one you get depends on how much of a threat the capitalists think you pose to their precious world order.
Fascism and liberalism is joined at the hip - you can’t have one without the other.
After all this text-wall, I’d be interested in your political attitude.
Fascists don’t “concentrate” power - they are HANDED power that has ALREADY been concentrated FOR them.
So you agree with me? I didn’t say fascists are concentrating power, but they definitely maintain it (just look at the third Reich and literally all other fascistic states). (And in reality they definitely sought after concentrating power, yet again just look at the history of the third Reich…)
The world is much less black and white as you depict it here. True, all the (liberal) democracies to date have their flaws and at least traces of fascism (unfortunately) growing this time again. I can rant about it all day if I wanted to (but I consider that a waste of time after having wasted too much with that already).
But (true) liberalism is not fascism, say what you want. After all, it’s about being liberal (I don’t consider our late-stage-capitalism liberal btw. capitalism is as we see right now in the US also concentrating power to the rich)…
I consider liberalism closer to anarchism (not the capitalistic kind of course). There are obviously differences, but as being liberal has to do with personal freedom, and anarchism is about being against all forms of authority, it’s per definition closer to that than fascism.
How it’s interpreted is a whole different story. Same with all the “communistic” kinds of states. I don’t think we ever had “real” communism, only authoritarianism with the label of “communism”.
Billionaires or not, they don’t have control of state militaries (yet at least). In fascism, the state is at the top, and corporations bend the knee and become an extension of the government to be used at the whims of its authoritarian leader.
What it ultimately comes down to is power and the capacity for violence. It doesn’t matter how much money you have, if a government can just drone strike your entire family, does it?
they don’t have control of state militaries
Of course they don’t. They don’t need direct control of the military. That’s what their pet political establishment is there for. You know… the political establishment who gets to decide who they will ALLOW you to vote for every four years?
In fascism, the state is at the top
And liberalism differs from that… how?
and become an extension of the government
And what did you think the Military-Industrial Complex was?
You’re not describing anything here that differs from liberalism in any fundamental way. You’re not wrong - I just don’t think you realize the full implications of what it is you are saying.
It doesn’t matter how much money you have,
We’re not talking about the surgeon who lives in the nice part of town and drives a Merc here… we are talking about the capitalist class who controls ALL of our society INCLUDING it’s repression apparatus. And Trump, an incompetent capitalist nepobaby cosplaying as a fascist, needs Zuckerberg far more than Zuckerberg needs Trump. Trump knows it, and the entire US political establishment knows it.
Lol you just said liberalism is the same as fascism… Stopped reading there.
Also helps when you see a user you previously tagged confirming that you were correct the first time.
You don’t want to know why the liberals keep fascists around?
They do say ignorance is bliss - maybe that applies to you.
I am now scheduled for deletion.
i worry about (future, AI enhanced) impersonation attempts so I just keep it secure and don’t post anything.
I don’t. Everyone I know knows I don’t use any Meta products, so it would have limited impact.
my grandma is still alive, some other family as well. with AI voice cloning and things i just foresee a lot of negative possibilities. maybe in another decade nobody i know would be on those places as well, hopefully there is some alternative for keeping up with family and old colleagues etc.
What about regular calls and visits? People don’t seem to have genuine conversations on SM like they do in person or on the phone.
unfortunately can’t jet across the country regularly, as much as i might wish. and sometimes calls happen over (guess what) fb messenger. not everything is a conversation, but meta products cover a lot of ground beyond status updates at this point.
They do, but is that actually helping build your relationship? Or does it make you feel like you’re more connected than you are and justify calling/visiting a bit less?
It’s silly they don’t just delete it instead they make you wait…
It’s so they can back your shit up probably lol
No, it’s so they can cancel the deletion if you “change your mind” (read: interact with it in any way).
Yeah, they know you’re addicted, and won’t let you cut yourself off
