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This dumbass was happy that government was paying him not to do anything with his land for that show he had called Clarkson’s Farm or something. I wonder when it started to hurt him so he started to pay attention…
He made millions via Amazon, he’s farm never hurt his wallet.
It seems you’re ignorant of what greed is…
He is farm? Hahahah
In the show, he started farming as a little side project during the pandemic. But he realised how much it sucked and how hard it was for people for which it is the sole source of income.
He’s tried to help his neighbours with the shops and restaurants. I don’t know how much of it is propaganda or not, but it seems genuine given his recent public statements about it.
If a stubborn bastard like Clarkson can change his mind about stuff like that, it’s always good.
I didn’t say anything bad about his recent statements. I’ve yet to see anything real and tangible from his alleged efforts. While he was happy to accept such grants of doing nothing with joy. To me he is nothing but a TV personality and nothing about him is genuine. He literally did a Trump move on his latest interview where he asked the TV reporter what percentage is paying inheritance tax and she said 4% and he run with 96% of the people is having difficulties and shit. And when the same reporter asked where he get his numbers he asked his lackeys who is not effected? He is in my eyes nothing but an attention seeking bastard. Because he is talking loud but doing nothing real.
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The real and tangible thing from his efforts is the slow itself. Regardless of his motives or wherever or not you like the guy, his show has actually raised a lot of awareness of how much farmers have struggled in the UK. He makes it very clear that the only reason he can afford to run the farm at all is because of the money from the show and he doesn’t know how other farmers are surviving - which in many cases they aren’t.
However he is also banging on about inheritance tax, which has nothing to do with whether real farmers can make ends meet and everything to do with rich, tax-dodge farmers like himself.
It’s entirely possible to disagree with him on one thing he says while agree with him on others.
You’re fighting a strawman you made up buddy. I’m talking about his own and how he acted. If you don’t like it I suggest you check yourself and let me know if I was misleading about my claims.
Workers are being exploited??!? Quickly, someone write this down!
Can’t wait for his arteries being as bloated as his face
Well he’s getting there
pretty sure it doesn’t take a kilogram of flour to make a loaf of bread, maybe a pound.
500 grams
It doesn’t say flour. It says wheat.
Tell me how you make flour again
Well it ain’t 1 to 1.
pretty damn close
Pretty damn close doesn’t cut it when your being pedantic.
Someone is (you)
How much does a kilogram of wheat weigh?
Probably between a kilogram of feathers and a kilogram of steel.
1000g
That’s a lot of gold.
Couple elbows
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Honestly, I fucking like Clarkson.
Is he sometimes obnoxious? Yeah. Wrong? Definitely.
But like the role he’s playing he’s playing fucking amazingly. He’s an entertainment person who doesn’t have an entirely closed mind even though there’s definitely a lot of shit in it. And he isn’t overly political. Like he understands he can influence opinions a bit but he would never try to become a real politician. Would he?
He’s very likable, at least on that show, which is the first time I’ve really watched him. He’s far from a mere host, he really digs in and works.
Sometimes of Top Gear and The Grand Tour (although I’ve not watched all of them but anyway) it was hilarious how far he would actually go to avoid working. Like sometimes he’d put more effort into avoiding something that would’ve been rather trivial.
What’s the one time he dragged a log behind his Mercedes in Africa for some reason or another and then it ofc eventually tangled, bounced and hit him square in the back glass.
Oh right, it was his “handbrake.”
Like honestly fixing the handbreak prolly would’ve been less work at least in general. AT least for the crew, accounting for the broken window and cleaning and whatnot.
https://youtu.be/kDmbABVFZIA?si=1kZSNcspLclRYtry
Oh wait, he actually says himself “stupidest idea in history.” I guess that’s the part I like. He does stupid shit confidently, announcing it’s brilliant, but when it inevitably goes wrong, he can laugh at himself and admit he was actually wrong. And yet go to the next stupid idea and do that with the same confidence as earlier. I find it amusing.
He’s a racist, he assaults people over sandwiches and is a vile, right wing piece of shit. Glad you’re a fan of that.
Glad you’re a fan of that.
No, I’m not a fan of “that.” I said I like Clarkson. I can like a pesron and disagree with them. If he was genuinely trying to be some sort of politican then I wouldn’t, but now he’s more or less just an average tier UK media personality.
Like I said, he’s often obnoxious and wrong. But aside from punching that guy at BBC and being ideologically stuck in the 90’s (which he basically does more or less for humour, but you can’t do that for humour all the time without believing in it a little.)
I don’t know. I get sort of nostalgia from laughing with that rude cunt. And I do mean “with” more than “at”.
He gives sort of the vibes I had when I was little kid and dad still seemed cool. He turned out to be a somewhat stubborn pseudointellectual very stuck in conservative ways and not at all open minded. Compared to my late dad, Clarkson is pretty openminded.
I have no real opinion on Clarkson, but you’re wasting your time with that poster. Some people just refuse to acknowledge the ability to separate good and bad things.
I’m content with the idea that all my time spent on Lemmy is wasted. I’m just commenting for the sake of commenting
You put my own thoughts into words. Clarkson reminds me a bit of my uncle.
Idk. I live around vile, right wing peices of shit so I see and have to interact with them daily. I’ve seen some real nasty stuff. And I’m not saying everything Clarkson says is great and right, b he is pretty fun to watch even if I am rooting against him most the time.
Literally the whole time I warch his farming show I’m rooting for Caleb while calling Clarkson an idiot. Like I said, I don’t know why it’s entertaining, but I believe OP is correct
Social media is racist too, but apparently you’re a fan of it since you use it, so you must like racism. Just using your own logic. Maybe climb down off your pulpit mate.
He’s not the sharpest egg in the attic, is he?
“Mind you I’m just a simple country farmer, but…”
For people who don’t know how agriculture works:
Grainaries buy from farmers, high supply and low local demand. Grainaries generally don’t have competition. That means grainaries set the price and farmers don’t have any negotiating power.
The grainary is now in charge of one thing and one thing only: logistics. The grains need to be distributed over a vast amount of distance, usually by train or by boat. You almost never see a grain elevator unless it is adjacent a railroad.
Well whose fault is that, the granary or the railroad?
They’re often owned by the same business, or cartelized interests.
In the US, during the oil boom of the early 20th century, the race to control the oil market was ultimately about controlling the storage and rail network. Rockefeller didn’t become the richest man in the country by sinking wells.
That’s why you’ll see “Railroad Commissioner” in states like Texas be the body that governs the O&G industry.
I fully expect Jeremy Clarkson to have never baked a loaf of bread in his life.
I’ll occasionally bake a loaf of bread, here in my home kitchen. I can’t do it with only wheat flour, I need water, salt, sugar and oil as well. So I have to pay my municipal waterworks, a salt miner, a sugar beet farmer, a rapeseed farmer, a wheat farmer, and whatever you call a yeast maker, plus their adjacent industries (I don’t by sugar beets, I buy refined granular sugar, etc) and multiple truck and train drivers who move all of those goods in their various states of manufacture around the continent.
Then I’ve got to bake it, I have an electric oven so now the local energy concern gets their cut. It’s that, or get a gas oven and cook with natural gas (fossil fuel methane), or misuse my backyard grill and cook with fossil fuel propane, or get out my axe, fell a tree and build a fire, which is labor intensive on my part.
Sometimes, watching Jeremy’s Farm, there’s an amount of “I didn’t think it would take this much knowledge or skill.” Because jackasses like me with 40 square feet of vegetable garden and some packets of seeds from the home center manage to make food. How hard can it be to scale that up to hundreds of acres? Modern farmers need a bachelor’s degree, you need to know about plants and animals and soil and all manner of shit to be a farmer. “Put seeds in ground, plants grow.” Yes, but actually no.
Sometimes it’s “He’s still The Orangutan from Top Gear.” He buys a tractor that’s way too big and then struggles to drive it, lol.
A lot of times it’s “I don’t think rich TV man actually understands how society works, people have just done shit for him his entire life.”
So I have to pay my municipal waterworks, a salt miner, a sugar beet farmer, a rapeseed farmer, a wheat farmer, and whatever you call a yeast maker, plus their adjacent industries (I don’t by sugar beets, I buy refined granular sugar, etc) and multiple truck and train drivers who move all of those goods in their various states of manufacture around the continent.
The good news is that, thanks to economies of scale, all of these consumer goods are incredibly cheap by unit weight.
The bad news is the we’ve privatized so much of the agricultural infrastructure and stuck so many middle men in between you and the raw labor that produce these useful goods, that the margins on cost are enormous.
How hard can it be to scale that up to hundreds of acres? Modern farmers need a bachelor’s degree, you need to know about plants and animals and soil and all manner of shit to be a farmer. “Put seeds in ground, plants grow.” Yes, but actually no.
The beauty of industrial farming isn’t in simplicity but yield. Nitrogen fixed fertilizer and modern irrigation and combine harvester mean a handful of professionals can do the work of thousands of amateurs.
But if you don’t actually know what you’re doing, or employ someone who does, all that investment is wasted.
You don’t have your own yeastmonger? Shame. Only way to go really.
that sounds like a d-tier supervillain
His show is entertainment, so he has this character who is semi- incompetent in everything. Yeah, he has this personality also, but not 100%. And some of what he does is just idiotic. The tractor is just him I’m that role.
But the show highlights a lot of important aspects. The skill of farming, the sheer amount of effort, the risk and how much you get for all that risk and effort.
For me it’s a missed opportunity that the farmers didn’t integrate the chain up like many stores have done down. That is buy the mills, bakeries and stores. Why can the grocery chains so it, but not the other way around?
Exactly. What he never ever does is underplay what real farmers do. He’s also using this platform to speak for them, and British farmers are largely supportive of his efforts in shining lights on problems they face every day.
But some people online hate the guy and have made their mind up before even bothering to read or try and understand.
His show is entertainment, so he has this character who is semi- incompetent in everything. Yeah, he has this personality also, but not 100%. And some of what he does is just idiotic.
The thing about playing a bafoon-ish, semi-incompetent character that uses racist encoded jokes, promoting a lifestyle of the bored rich elite is that at some point you have to come off stage and out of character.
When Clarkson comes off stage, he punches people in the face because he didn’t get his din-dins or writes opinion pieces with racist encoded jokes and illiberal positions.
sugar?
Most white loaf bread recipes start with “dissolve sugar into warm water, add yeast, allow to proof until thick and foamy.”
that’s crazy
Proofing yeast is crazy to the Brits. If you say so.
not a brit. and yes it is.
Not really it’s like a sprinkle of sugar. It reawakens the yeast faster. I don’t personally do it, but it’s a basic baking technique on par with egg washes or steam baking
Most American white loaf bread recipes…
Even in the UK, we would call most American bread “fortified dough”, like a sweet/pudding, not bread. I bake occasionally and it’s flour, water, salt and yeast.
Yeah that’s what I do as an American. Sometimes some spices go in if I’m feeling fancy
Yeast needs sugar to eat in order to fart out carbon dioxide and make bread less dense.
Jeremy Clarkson is a racist, abusive piece of shit
Wait until he finds out how much we pay farmers in other countries for their goods
Man aged 64 and 3/4 discovers unequal exchange
Clarkson is going to Waitrose to get fancy bread. Aldi sell it for 45p. 25p to the farmer leaves just 20p which is split between transport, processing and what ever profit Aldi are taking out of it.
Clarkson not knowing the price of bread is one hardly a surprise.
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Wait your bread is literally less than a pound? It’s like $4 here in Canada for shitty wonderbread and $5.50 for the fancy “baked in store” shitty bread
Low-end food is apparently way cheaper in the UK than in North America:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJDg3lMlmBU
There’s been inflation since that video went up, so the prices aren’t quite that good anymore. There are more recent videos from that channel you can watch to see more current prices though.
Yeah, though you can get bread a little over £1 it’s the more luxury stuff. Most root veg, rice and oats are less than £1/KG and make up the majority of the volume of what we get, we usually spend about £30/week between the 2 of us on food. Most expensive purchase is usually cheddar, which is basically the default cheese here, the one we usually get is £5.42/KG.
I got groceries for just the 2 of us yesterday. It was $245
Oh wow that is expensive
damn bread is only 1.40 there?
even the store brand enriched with sawdust bread here costs between 1.90 and 2.50
ACTUAL bread costs between 4.50 and can even be 6-7 if you buy the fancy bread
It’s about £1.30 for a branded loaf of wholemeal. You can get an own brand which is nearly as good for about 70p.
Where are you from where it’s costing that much?
Dave’s Killer all the way.
ive always wanted to try that but here in atlanta its like 6 bucks for a small loaf 😭😭
They have it at Costco now. Double loaf packs.
- Transporting the grain from the field to the mill.
- Milling
- Transporting flour (and at least 3 other ingredients) from the mill to the bakery
- Baking, packaging
- Transporting the bread from the bakery to the supermarket
- Running the supermarket.
Turns out there is a difference between raw wheat and bread. More news at 8.
When farmers get paid too little for their effort, making these wild comparisons isn’t helping. It seems we’re about a year away from the conclusion “I stubbed my toe. This must be capitalism’s fault.”
Don’t understand how he can be part of this industry and not understand it at all.
Or he does understand and is playing a victim. Second is more likely.
Yeah, this is the guy who successfully played victim when he got fired for punching someone in the face. He knows exactly what he’s doing.
Yup. I remember it well.
Did you see the interview during the farmers protest where he got upset that the interviewer pointed out he’d only bought the farm to dodge IHT?
According to his own column, no less.
The second one for sure. But i would also argue that Clarkson himself is only part of the industry to some degree, because primarily he is still in the (quite successful) business of producing television. And while he is certainly learning stuff the actual act of running a farm is still primarily done by others.
On the practical farming side by Kaleb and on the business side by Charlie, who in this case would be the one understanding how the economics between 25p/kg weat and 1.25£ for a loaf of bread work.
I think you’ve got a valid point there. I would also say Clarkson is very “me me me”.
- You do not need entire kilo of wheat to make one loaf of bread
That depends on the bread size? From a quick survey of bread recipes online, you need flour and water in a ratio of about 2:1 to 2:1.5. So 1kg of flour gives 1.5kg–1.75kg of dough. I don’t know how much water evaporates during backing, but I think an end product of 1.25kg–1.7kg is a reasonable guess. That’s about a standard sized loaf (to me).
Shovelloaf
What about potatoes?
Those are needed to power the farm computers.
It’s actually kind of crazy all of the rest of that happens for £1.25
Now if we do insulin in the USA, it won’t make so much sense. Capitalism!
Mass production and its effect on unit cost is amazing sometimes. But what is also lost is the transactions between each of those steps. Usually the ones that farm aren’t the ones milling, baking, packaging, etc., so there are layers to consider as well, all reducing the unit prices because of the large scale.
And items like Bread and Milk are commonly loss leaders - their priced at a loss or a minimal profit margin by the larger retailers that can afford to make a loss to profit richly elsewhere.
Staples like bread and milk are highly price competitive because there is so much choice - choice in brands but more importantly choice in which supermarket customers go to.
That price pressure goes down the entire production chain. Big companies like Warburtons and Hovis can still profit asbthey benefit from economies of scale, as do the supermarket chains. Big farms also benefit from economies of scale to profit. At every level the small players - farmers, independent bakeries and small retailers struggle to make any profit at all. And at every level wages are kept down.
This is capitalism.
What did you stub your toe on? Under which economic system was that object produced? Open your eyes, sheeple!
Whoa whoa go back to sleep you’re woke now
