• sunglocto
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    507 months ago

    Seems like Trump’s strategy is to now bully countries into getting what they want. "I want them out!!! I want Canada!!! I want Greenland!!!

    He’s basically the equivalent of the kid that flips over the monopoly table when someone bought a property before him.

    • @[email protected]
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      137 months ago

      He literally is a petulant spoilt brat nappy wearing trust fund kid with unresolved daddy issues.

    • @[email protected]
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      317 months ago

      I feel like all economies will soon be just trading with eachother, except with the US.

      • @[email protected]
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        147 months ago

        They should start now. Countries should cut off trading with the US once Trump starts making threats in their direction, instead of waiting for him to make up his mind and do something. He’s too used to there not being any consequences.

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          7 months ago

          Won’t happen. EU is designed to serve the US, but we’ll see countries breaking off and (re)uniting with Russia.

          • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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            17 months ago

            The problem with that is that anti-Russian sentiment is highest in the East, so there’s no way they will break off.

            Also Russia is not China, they barely have anything to give in a trade relationship. Also, the Ukraine invasion is scrounging up bad memories in most of the member states, so there’s that.

            In Hungary, arguably the country closest ideologically to Russia, EU membership has had a consistent 70-80% approval. They won’t break off.

            Also, the EU is designed to protect EU business interests against international ones, so they will go where the money is, and under Trump, that may cease to be the US.

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              It’s highest in the North-East, lowest in the South East.

              There’s currently no direct land connection between Russia and Moldava/Slovakia/Romania/Hungary,
              and without it, there’s no potential protection.
              Georgia is already slowly turning around.

              Russia is an ally of China. What they have to give is the same as the EU (Germany) has to give with the US as their ally.

              So far the EU has done everything in power to not protect EU business interests and favor US business interests over anything else.

              • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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                17 months ago

                Are you from the Eastern EU?

                It’s not like that. The EU invests insane, Marshall-plan amounts of money into its Eastern member states, and it very visibly goes into infrastructure. Even stuff that is stolen by corruption is just money that goes into shit nobody needs, but still gets.

                Every second playgorund, every motorway and new line of rail, every scientific lab and every second pub has a big-ass sign next to it saying “Built for a kajillion Euros by the EU”.

                Relations with the US are also independent from relations to Germany/France/the EU, especially since the US doesn’t like to deal with the entire EU at once, since they can’t flex their muscles as much. The US also doesn’t really understand it, look at the new chip restrictions cutting the free market zone in half. All that also goes for China by the way.

                Russia is simply incapable of giving a better deal than the EU. It can’t afford and is not credible to even want to spend as much as the EU. Also, Estonian, Hungarian, Bulgarian and Polish are official languages in Brussels, would they also be in Moscow? It’s just not comparable. And nobody needs Russia to trade with China. In fact, the big BnR rail line China/Serbia/Hungary is doing - the one that sparked the current protests that might mean the fall of the Russia/China aligned Serbian government - specifically avoids Russia. Most of current Chinese trade actually is mediated by the Netherlands and Romania/Bulgaria.

                All I’m saying is that from the Eastern European viewpoint, if the EU/US and China/Russia are both a bundle deal - I believe they are not - then everyone will choose the one that doesn’t have Russia in it. If it’s not, the US and China are not necessarily different as a trading partner.

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        227 months ago

        That is the only logical step. You can’t make deals with someone who throws you under the bus at the next opportunity 🤷🏻

  • @[email protected]
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    337 months ago

    Look, I know that immigration is a contentious issue, but sanctioning a country for not repatriating its citizens is a disproportionate response. Trump and Co. are really obsessed with immigration to even do this. It says a lot what values they have.

    • qaz
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      77 months ago

      He does that to strongarm companies into complying, because it works. It’s also setting an example for other countries to cooperate.

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        7 months ago

        I suppose, but we’re talking about international diplomacy. And a modern one at that.

        Trump’s strong arming sounds so 19th century though. His open threat of taking Panama canal, Canada, Greenland, and renaming the Gulf of Mexico is so manifest destiny.

        • @[email protected]
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          57 months ago

          Trump’s strong arming sounds so 19th century though

          20th century too! If a government didn’t do what we wanted them to do, we just couped their government, and installed a dictator.

          I mean, how do you think Sadaam Hussein got into power?

        • qaz
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          47 months ago

          Yes, it does have a lot of similarities.

      • @[email protected]
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        247 months ago

        Yeah, I just saw the news that Colombia gave in.

        Trump is going all in. He’s reverting to the 19th century way of strong arming other countries over petty things. He’s reviving the old-school capitalist imperialism.

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      187 months ago

      Are those people really Columbian citizens? I would not put it past Trump to just command ICE to land the next plane full of “somehow latin looking people” somewhere south of the border.

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    17 months ago

    To be clear, Colombia already backed down and accepted all the demands. Which is unfortunate but not surprising. Starting to get “Just give Hitler what he wants and he’ll stop” vibes. Surprised folks didn’t learn their lesson…

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      97 months ago

      So he saw these people were transported like cattle, dehydrated and mistreated, and instead of letting them get off the planes, he’s sent them back in those same planes so he can retrieve them with normal planes?

      Unless I am missing something, I feel like you’d want those people to not fly in a plane like that again.

      Either the plane didn’t take off in the first place, case in which rejecting it would make sense.

      Or those planes landed in Colombia, then sent back so they can be brought in proper planes, extending the suffering for no reason.

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          57 months ago

          I see. I thought they landed in Colombia but were sent back to the U.S.

          Thank you for the clarification

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    27 months ago

    Ho ho ho. Trump does not hold the cards here. Colombia DNGAF. But Trump does, and he’s digging that hole as fast as he can.

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      97 months ago

      He governs by decrees basically, and so did biden. Its mental gymnastics at olympic level to call the US a democratic country.

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    7 months ago

    It would be a good idea that Mexico, Columbia and other latin countries promote the Trump Wall, but expelling all US residents in their countries. A wall always works in both directions.

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    937 months ago

    If they won’t take them, maybe we could put all these Columbians in some sort of District. A District of Columbia filled with criminals. Wait, we already have that.

  • @[email protected]
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    257 months ago

    Getting married to a Colombian woman as an America. Is this going to hinder her from getting a marriage visa and coming to America with me?

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      7 months ago

      With all the executive orders he’s spewing forth, I wouldn’t be surprised if you run into some roadblocks, if only out of confusion on the part of immigration officials. For both your sakes, I hope it isn’t too disruptive. Mazel tov!

    • Edgarallenpwn
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      When did you submit the marriage visa? Also congrats! My wife is also Colombian and these last few days have been a fun time

      Edit: I wish I could supply more information directly, but I am still trying to learn the visa processes. A local immigrant lawyer runs a daily Q&A stream if you want to hop in and see if you can get a slot to ask about your situation. Link: Jim Hacking immigration law. Dood is a good guy who doesn’t bullshit and gets straight to the point. I hope everything goes well for you and your SO

      • @[email protected]
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        77 months ago

        We are getting married at the notary today so she hasn’t applied for it yet! I am here I Colombia with her so sorry for the late reply. Internet is spotty I will look better when I arrive at her house. Thank you!

        • Edgarallenpwn
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          47 months ago

          Yay! Wishing you both the best. I feel weird promoting a YouTube stream but it’s helping me learn a lot by just listening and hearing people’s stories. I believe the Zoom number and Whatsapp numbers are posted on his page. Looks like today’s is scheduled for 3:30PM COT/UTC -5 and tomorrow’s is 6:30PM COT/UTC -5.