I’m just gonna leave this here: https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/
There is evidence to support widespread vote suppression is occurring by “vigilantes” knocking people off the voter registry amongst other tactics
Welp, that settles it.
Don’t stop at suppression when it was full manipulation.
Good potential* evidence to add to the pile, thank you for bringing it up!
Edit: *
Beyond the statistical realities that Saleh mention, the general point about drop-off is also weird.
It implies that the GOP cheated, but declined to cheat in down ballot. This seems odd, if they had the will and capability to just change the votes, why would they skip the down ballot elections? Further another similar site pointed out the drop-off was uneven, that it was suspiciously higher in Montana than Michigan. To imply the GOP cheated more in Montana? When your theory indicates a bigger effort to cheat in a safe state than a swing state, then there’s something going on.
The drop-off effect is easily explained by the reality that people weren’t voting for a Republican or a Democrat, they were voting for or against Trump. That mindset is wholly separate from Republican v. Democrat. It’s almost an Apples v. Oranges to try to compare a race with Trump to it to any other race (which is why the GOP is desperate to run him again, because even they don’t understand how he engages the base and he is a useful idiot).
I’m glad to see it investigated and I wish that the voting populace didn’t do what they did (and accept that without the suppression, the results might have gone the other way). However I don’t think fraud has been proven in any significant degree.
Perhaps the democrats should emphasize vote in person on election day if at all possible, and mail-in is a last resort, rather than saying “voting is easy, just mail it in”. It’s obvious that they are having great success in discarding legitimate mail-in ballots the way they see fit.
This is bullshit and this group is likely just out there to cash in on the election. What they claim to be suspicious patterns is just basic statistics.
If machines have a higher number of votes it is just to be expected that the spread of the results get smaller and towards the end result. The larger the sample size, the smaller the spread.
And the early voting machines had up to 250 votes per machine, whereas the election day machines only had around 125. At least in the graphics this group used in their own report. If you scale the graphic of the early machines only until 125 votes per machine they look similar.
Also on election day there were about 3000 machines as opposed to 1000. And here another basic truth comes up. If you repeat a sampling more often, the distribution of results becomes more even.
These guys are just describing basic statistic effects and claiming them to be suspicious, probably to collect donations and run with the money. Also their website is dubious about who they are exactly and what their credentials are.
There is legitimate criticisms and leads to investigate, but these guys are not one of them.
I mean, they fucking admit it but whatever.
i am not saying that there is no credible reasons to investigate if the election was done properly. however the “electiontruth” people do not provide any credible information for that. Also the video you linked does not seem to be about making a calm and proper argument, but rather to rile people up.
Again it is not impossible, that there have been irregularities, but it is something that needs to be analyzed and discussed properly. This is irrespective from needing to resist the Trump government, as it is a bunch of cirminals.
This was my gut feeling as well, not to mention it’s a much less clear picture then what I posted.
I do want to add that I find it suspicious given Republicans frequently accuse the other side of doing what they either are actively doing, or plan to do, their continual pushing on voting being insecure and particularly mail in voting and early voting being particularly mabipulatable in their own words does make it seem more likely to me there could have been more shenanigans, not to mention that it was specifically mentioned that there were several breaches to two of the election systems in the years leading up to 2024… Very sus.
A third of the eligible voters didn’t vote. If they had, this tiny marginal bullshit wouldn’t matter.
Separate reply, this isn’t tiny marginal bullshit, we’re talking millions of votes
I don’t disagree, but not like my preferred candidate was on the ballot, I still voted tho…
Assuming that the third would be biased toward one candidate rather than being probably just as evenly divided as those that did vote.
We know the restrictive voting laws were biased. We do not know that the “didn’t bother to vote” has the same bias.
Libs still imagining that voting matters. Not where I live. Not where most people live.
As an old leftist i find that the young American left is hyper focused on punishing politicians based on things that should be, not based on how things are.
Yes it would be nice if the world was like you want it, but it isn’t. Voting the lesser of two evils is just how most of us around the world do it.
But an example is the whole car free/anti car thing, Yes that would work if cities had adequate transit and service, but they don’t, and they won’t in my lifetime. It would be nice but it’s not going to happen, ever. So I may as well just vote for the candidates who fund transit instead of trying to find a candidate who is yelling about being anti car
The crowd that didn’t vote for Kamala have mysteriously disappeared from their soapbox and went into hiding…
I gotta start saving this exact same comment every time I see it. Still pushing for electoral reform and a dissolution of the two party system on a daily basis. This is the right time to do so right? Now you can’t cry “Oh it’s to close to the election!”
Well, have you pushed to replace First past the post voting in your state so people can be free to vote how they want? Will you be complaining about 3rd party mid term voters after a year and a half of doing nothing to change the mathematically flawed voting system in your state?
I didn’t have to roll out the red carpet for Donald “Israel needs to win and win fast” Trump to push for voting reform.
Every terrible thing we told you would happen is currently happening, so I hope you’re happy for queer Americans and about the fate of Palestine. You got exactly what we told you we would get. I hope you’re comfy on your soapbox, because it’s not comfy for trans people right now. Thanks a lot.
Da.
Repeatedly banning people with different viewpoints will do that. You chose to become an echo chamber.
Horseshit. They got what they wanted and then shut up about it.
Nope, just because you stopped seeing them in your walled garden doesn’t mean they aren’t there. They’re just treating you the same as Trump supporters because they know what side liberals were in in Nazi Germany.
But hey, at least they elected you to represent them in these comment sections! Hope the pay is good. Don’t look like fun to me.
Sorry I’m out of the loop.
Who got banned for different viewpoints?
Look at the modlog for . world, Ctrl f “troll” for the last 6 months.
I’m lazy can you help out and give me one or two examples?
Nope, you guys appointed Hitler again to stop the commies and leftists. Stop being a lazy liberal.
That was a lot of words to say you can’t.
You’re a weird flyingsquid alt.
I seeing us everywhere. I’m not sure what your talking about
Hi I voted for Stein
Well least you voted. If only 30 mill more decided to vote even third party it would have shook things up. They didn’t even care enough about country to do that.
I feel like too many people don’t know how passing laws work.
Holy shit, one thousand upvotes!
Thanks guys, I’d like to talk for a moment about something that’s important to me and that’s how to check if you’re registered to vote.
Right? Like
“Well, if you’re not doing anything for me I’m withholding my vote!”
It doesn’t register to anyone that Democrats can’t do anything about Trump if they don’t have the offices
Right right, it’s a neat graphic, but it kind of ignores people who remember multiple presidential elections.
If we vote Democrat and then the Democrats don’t do jack s*** then what surprise is it that people stay home next time? Obama was weak. Biden was weak. They could have pushed policies that would benefit the average American citizen, and they mostly didn’t. The party threw us away, not the other way around.
And I still think people should vote, but you don’t get to blame them for the Democrats being s*****.
i voted for fetterman and he’s more useless at resisting tyranny than a wet blanket
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I voted in Taiwan. I had to take a 1 hour train ride to the American embassy to vote.
How do you vote to get rid of the dumb voting system in USA?
Even when Democrats are in power, they still don’t do anything hardly at all. I have voted Democrat for a long time now, but what we really need to do is get rid of First Past the Post voting in America, as it would really light a fire under them to be effective or be replaced.
It’s a legitimate question.
We all voted for Biden even though we KNEW he would be worthless but that’s who was forced on us…and then for four years he ABSOLUTELY REFUSED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE to do his Number One Job of defending the US against domestic terrorism and insurrection.
ABSOLUTE REFUSAL.
And then his successor campaigns as a GWB acolyte and gives vague, rambling non-answers to very simple questions while telling the constituency to go fuck themselves.
You figure it out
