One of the men goes for her phone. The other grabs at her hands. Ozturk screams. Shock and fear ripple through her voice. Two masked women join them, tugging at her backpack, peeling the straps from her shoulders. “I’m going somewhere, I need to call someone,” she pleads. “We’re the police. Relax,” one of the men says in response.
They surround her. Then, one by one, they pull their neck gaiters up to cover their faces. “You don’t look like police,” a voice off screen says. “Why are you hiding your faces?” The questions continue, but the figures don’t respond. Instead, they cuff Ozturk, cross the street, and put her in an unmarked SUV. She is gone.
For the record, and I know I’m not the first to say it, this woman committed NO crime. She didn’t overstay a visa, she didn’t protest illegally. She wrote something the administration didn’t like.
For that, she was arrested by 8 masked officers in the middle of the street, in broad daylight. She was thrown in the back on an unmarked SUV. She’s received no legal representation. No trial. Not even charges, because again, she committed no crime.
Americans, you realize you’re watching the death of your rights and the rule of law, right? You have no illusions about the fact that you are defenseless? There is no longer any guardrail between you and an El Salvadoran prison camp. In something that reminds me very much of Stalin, an accusation is now a conviction.
We .need to arm ourselves and shoot fuckers like this. If you see fuckets like this trying to take someone intervene and shoot to kill. We need rise up. Because yes we are next.
Just start by protesting, protecting, and block them from doing this shit when possible. If you go directly full terrorist mode, it means they won…
They already won, are you from another species? Are you watching this?
full terrorist mode
You mean… like these fuckers?
They won a (ok a bit more) battle, not the war! Move your ass, rebuild your democracy and add safeguards so you never let such hateful, retarded people in this position again.
Black Panthers open carried.
Yes.
America has always been more or less of a fascist state, and this is not new activity, although it is worse and more brazen in a lot of ways. Civil Rights for ethnic minorities has always been pretty iffy.
30% of the country loves this shit, and another large fraction doesn’t even know it’s going on. A lot of us are working to try to change things. The media is not covering all of the demonstrations, but we definitely need more people to get angry.
She also had her visa revoked so can no longer legally stay in the USA to complete her studies, or enter again. This was because she wrote an op-ed disapproving of Israel’s genocide.
What the fuck do we do? I’m in a hyperliberal city in one of the few blue states left. We are relatively safe for now. I make a comfortable amount of money that I use to support my wife and friends who sometimes may not have necessities. I cannot risk my job by taking every day off to protest. Protests also seem meaningless to go to for me in my city because they’re happening in a safer city.
I am donating to the ACLU every month, but idk what else we can be doing. What can we be doing?
Time for Canada to annex Pacific Coast states(at least) then we can live in a functioning democracy again.
Organize armed protests. Connect in your neighborhood, so if this shit goes down, and it will start going down in your neighborhood soon enough, people can show up, free the victim and bog down the attackers.
Remember “Better be Russian than a democrat” guys? Well, now they’re Russian!
She wrote something the administration didn’t like.
What was written?
A couple of op-eds for a Student newspaper criticizing Israel? I thought I saw the pieces linked earlier but I don’t see them now. The article linked on this post says it supported a student divestment program and referenced the International Criminal Court calling attacks on Gaza a genocide.
Hardly spicy compared to your average social media post.
She expressed anti-Palestinian genocide sentiments.
In New America that gets you disappeared by masked thugs.
You have no illusions about the fact that you are defenseless?
We have guns. Lots of guns.
Everyone needs to arm themselves and train.
I suspect your government would love it if you started shooting. They’d declare martial law. Goodbye elections, hello police state.
They will do this either way.
There is no bargaining with these people. They will not not escalate from their side. By not escalating from your side you only encourage their escalation as they face no repercussions.
That’s true actually - they are escalating pretty hard already.
As a long-term peacenik though, I hate the thought of gun battles on the streets. I wish you all the very best. I first visited the US in 1976 and have toured around a lot since then. My one single bad experience was Homeland Security when transiting through LAX. We’re tourists not terrorists, jeez cool your jets! I can’t imagine how bad ICE is.
Your guns don’t compare to the guns the government use. Nor do you have the numbers to resist even if equally armed. If the 1/3 of voters that didn’t vote, actually voted for for Harris, you wouldn’t be in this mess but there you are.
What do you mean about numbers? The state and it’s guards are always massively outnumbered by the people, it’s just a question of organization.
But how many people are willing to risk their life without immediate danger to themselves (yet)?
and if we had a time machine we could fix all this. STFU. GUNS.
Yeah well, ask the Afghans or Vietnamese. Turns out you don’t need to have the same fire power to drag your opponent through the mud.
The Vietnamese had some of the greatest strategic minds in their history leading the fight against the Americans.
So far, it doesn’t seem like there’s a single leader for a resistance in the U.S., and certainly none as skilled in tactics.
Where do you expect the resistance leaders to come from?
From the state resistance leadership school, with the public resistance leadership grant? If you dont form a resistance you cannot create resistance leaders
I had a decent amount I got back from taxes that I intentionally spent. I’m mentally ill. I’m off my meds because I cant risk withdrawl from going back on them only to have RFK take them away again. I’ll lose my job. It doesnt pay enough for me to get by anyway. If I kept that money, I know I would have bought that gun. And I would have used it on myself.
I’m still not sure I did the right thing spending myself into this hole to keep a gun away. I know using it on my oppressors wouldnt likely succeed. I’m more likely to use it on myself.
I still dont know if it was the right thing to do to not buy the gun.
Also, this is just the rehearsal until they go for political opponents with American citizenship.
For the record, and I know I’m not the first to say it, this woman committed NO crime.
Ozturk
The state rests it’s case.
Defenseless is a good word, it seems like we’re all just waiting for a savior to show up and rescue us. It doesn’t help that a large amount of Americans see protest as pointless right now. What it feels like is the bystander effect on a national level.
The worst part is how many people either support or just brush it off.
It doesn’t help that a large amount of Americans see protest as pointless right now.
It’s the wheel of life:
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Protests help something, but they are hard, violent, inconvenient, people die, money is lost, but they achieve goals and generally people know that protests and breaking everything around is necessary. Cutting infrastructure, beating officials (including police) to pulp, closing roads. Stopping factories (ok, that’s not a problem in the first world), stopping trucks and trains, stopping mail. Causing blackouts.
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To avoid that, people talk. They form mechanisms to avoid real protests, but these mechanisms are dependent on real protests. Like gold standard - it’s supported by circulation, so if you can’t fall back to gold, you can’t really call it gold standard. It’s the same with protests. Real democracy is dependent on falling back to protests and just killing a few of the government jerks who think they are some kind of thief aristocracy.
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People have long, really long period of questions being resolved by talking. And if it comes to protests, these are soft protests and they - mistake - become too subject for discussion, like let’s not go to those streets, let’s not hurt businesses, let’s follow these rules and obey police.
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People get used to that.
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The protest gold standard is in fact abolished, you’ve been softly and slowly made a serf, congratulations.
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Try protesting now, you’ll get absolutely abused for doing pretty normal things.
OK, I’m from Russia, here people looked at tanks on the streets of Moscow in a few crises and decided they are smart and wise to follow rules made by thieves and murderers.
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After all that trashing of Russians and why they do not fight against their government, the world gets to see that Americans are basically the same: so many fall for the dumbest possible propaganda and the rest is either afraid or apathetic.
Humans are the same everywhere. Political structures and cultures are not, but humans have evolved for much longer.
Which is why when you (if you do) think about the EU being some land of honey, it would be wise to also think “what am I missing if I don’t see similar problems there”.
I agree. We had over 20% far right votes here in Germany recently. Russian propaganda is going strong, too. Somehow I hope that watching the rapid disassembly of the US under Trump should open the eyes of some of them, but I am grasping at straws here.
There have been weekly protests of this shit across the country since the asshole was elected. It’s not helping. And even the “opposition party” is capitulating to the bullshit. What else are we supposed to do?
Americans see protest as pointless right now.
Americans have seen a generation of peaceful protests that were crushed and villified. Anti-WTO, Anti-Iraq War, Occupy Wall Street, George Floyd, etc; all failed to achieve any of their stated goals.
And now that the fascists have taken control, peaceful protest is even less effective. For peaceful protest to succeed your opponent must have empathy, and fascists have none.
The last protest movement that accomplished something substantial was the civil rights movement. It was not peaceful, it was militant. I think we need a modern Black Panther Party.
Exactly, you need armed protest.
For peaceful protests to succeed they must attract more people to the cause and gather momentum. Protests now would be useful for bringing people together and emboldening people to resist what’s going on. They are a step in building a movement. To say “protests alone don’t change things” misses this point.
Americans still aren’t going to rise up though lol
No they won’t. They are all talk and no show. Wimpiest of all.
If you were willing to die to fight fascism, you’d be in Ukraine right now. Fuck off with your armchair warrior bullshit.
Edit: woo I pissed off the tankies with this one
I am willing to die to fight magats, absolutely. I was considering joining the ildu, I decided to applied to caf instead because they have plenty of noob volunteers already, they need weapons more then me right now.
Then maybe consider that, like you, some Americans are trying to resist in ways other than direct, deadly confrontation.
Ehhh, its been pretty pitiful from what I have seen. Certainly there are some exceptional usamericans who are out in the streets protesting, but on the average, the country is irredeemable. Fuck those people forever.
They would have been in Ukraine years ago. The time for that has come and gone. Ukraine is now one of many theatres of the fascist campaign now.
yeah fight fascism by joining the Azov Battalion founded by the famous anti-fascist Andriy Biletsky
Mask off moment. Stop being so obvious or putin will send you to the front lines.
Copying for when you edit
yeah fight fascism by joining the Azov Battalion founded by the famous anti-fascist Andriy Biletsky
i’m sorry but a country that elects a neo-nazi into parliament or idolizes nazi-collaborators is not one that i would consider fighting for if i’m anti fascist.
russia isn’t any better. but the ukraine v russia war is an independence war where one set of oligarchs wanted to break free from the subjugation from another set of oligarchs.
i won’t edit anything i’ll stand behind what i say
The country you talk about, I’m guessing its USA ? Because as an outsider, It looks worse on almost everything right now compared to Ukraine.
i wouldn’t fight for the US either
but I’ll bet you won’t find a federally elected politician that says something this blatantly nazi
Apart from the question of purity, we must also pay attention to the full value of a Race. Ukrainians are a part (and, at that, one of the largest and most qualitative) of the European White Race. the Race-Creator of a great civilization the highest human achievements. The historic mission of our Nation in this crucial century is to lead the White Peoples of the world in the last crusade for their existence. A crusade against the sub-humanity led by the Semites
here in the US you have to use dog whistles
Anyone who’s vaguely anti russian is construed as being a bedfellow of banderite. Friend of fascists or just a straight up nazi.
Nice recovery!
not sure if sarcastic 🤔
piss off putin minion
We are protesting here in US everyday to fight facism. Why should I fight for Ukraine again? We supported weapon delivery to ukraine. I have to take care of my country before I do to others. Need to put US in stable place else we all lose.
Just carrying gun and shooting around is not the definition of fighting unless that is all your learned in school. There are other ways to fight.
I might be arm chair warrior, may be I work in cyber security? May be I create drones? What do u know about me? Nothing.
As evidenced by three people walking or jogging past and literally not doing anything. The dog walker paused for a bit but then continued. I guess it’s the fear of them disappearing too that prevents them from doing anything.
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Most Americans: Yeah but it didn’t happen to me.
Why is the judge not arresting her captors for kidnapping at the least? If there are no charges then why is she being arrested? This is wrong on so many levels. If you think trump will not do the something to the rest of us you are mistaken. Just give him time. He will be doing it to American citizens as well.
Definitely. Trump already wants to get rid of birthright citizenship going forward and has a lawsuit that has stopped his executive order. The MAGA goal is to be able to imprison and deport dissenters.
She is us. We are her.
It’s happening.
The government revoked Tufts doctoral student Rumeysa Ozturk’s visa due to her pro-Palestinian activism, according to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who added the State Department may have revoked more than 300 student visas since the beginning of the second Trump administration.
“It might be more than 300 at this point. We do it every day. Every time I find one of these lunatics, I take away their visa,” Rubio said during a press conference in Guyana on Thursday.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/tufts-students-visa-revoked-due-activism-rubio/story?id=120226954
Save this one people. Save the paper she wrote that they say supports hamas.
Remember the outrage when stuff like that happens in China?
Ever since living there a few years back, I keep saying how your two countries are so fucking similar, and it getting truer every day.These definitely aren’t cops or even anyone with any formal training.
This is why we should end all federal policing. It’s not in the constitution. You were never meant to interact with your federal government. The federal government was for regulating the states, interstate commerce, and common defense.
One can argue that this is a common defence. Defence against those who criticise the government.
Umm, fuck no.
I lived in the south, the FBI were basically the only reason I didn’t have to worry about some inbred redneck deputy getting hammered and having fun with a baseball bat for kicks.
We needed the feds to protect our rights, because according to the south, we had none.
But this shit is proof there’s another side of the coin.
i’m still holding out for some federal agency or the joint chiefs to step in and stop this administration. that would be a hell of a lot easier than depending on the people to do it.
Military officer corp is easily the most non-political actors while the enlisted MAGA are diehards.
So, unfortunately, the air force officer corps has gone pretty hardcore maga, the republicans spent decades shifting recruitment and ROTC to southern evangelicals with great success.
Land of the free aight
Look at their body language.
These aren’t law enforcement professionals detaining a suspect.
These are Nazi Brown Shirt thugs ganging up on a fucking PhD student.
This country is nosediving HARD. Arm yourselves. I would never allow plain-clothed thugs to push me into an unmarked van and take me to a secondary location. You are fighting for your life at that point for all you know.
Demasking them would clearly be the best measure for deterring them.
Type of shit they tell you to expect in China, except its the USA
Legally speaking if some one interfered or resisted wouldn’t they be justified? No clear sign they are the law and they refuse to identify themselves
