RIP discord.
Fuck Discord, I hope they go pedal to the medal and destroy the company in record time.
Pedal to the “metal”.
Sorry, all I do is win, so the floor of my car is covered in medals…
Back to self-hosted teamspeak then I guess
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Discord is like the dread pirate Roberts combined with a used car salesman. “I’ll probably kill you tomorrow, you should buy nitro”
Oh yeah, we’re about to see things get really shitty on Discord.
Already have embedded ads. I’m about done with this shit and willing to have no one to talk to just so I don’t give discord the satisfaction of using their Spyware.
“All right, everybody. I know there’s been a sexism problem here at Discord, and I’m here to change that. If we really work hard and power through, I truly believe that we can work our way up to the kinds of numbers I was able to achieve back at Activision Blizzard.”
I picture him saying this while he hangs a picture up of Bill Cosby in the board room. Yes, that was a thing at Activision/Blizzard. Time to start finding a new platform. Peak enshitification achieved.
Okay boys and girls, time to start discussing the next migration. Where we goin’?
I’m looking to check out spacebar at the weekend. Seems they had some DMCA issues a few years back, but it looks as though the repo is still active.
No idea whether the discord integration stuff still works, nor the details around the DMCA (I assume it’s due to the old name being fosscord) but it’s piqued my interest enough to give it a shot.
Failing that, I’ll probably look toward revolt or a matrix + element setup as they seem to be the main suggestions for discord alternatives.
Host your own TeamSpeak server.
The client is getting occasional beta release, but nothing for the server in years, although stuff is apparently being worked on. It seems they want to make it function more like Discord.
I’m enjoying Element/Matrix so far.
How about matrix?
revolt chat or matrix?
I could get behind a revolt ;)
When you had the foresight to walk away several years ago and you’ve just been on the sidelines watching it get worse and worse and worse.
i would leave right now if I could take my communities with me. but I sadly have to wait until the app is so unusable that EVERYONE is leaving the app in droves.
That’s the kind of logic that keeps shitty platforms afloat
I’m the server owner. these are active hubs. I’m not gonna just destroy my own communities just because some random person on the internet wants to place blame on someone with no power to change the platform.
you’re blaming the wrong people for discord getting shitty.
So the end of discord is nigh
Enshitification applies to EVERYTHING
Linux hasn’t enshittified. Neither has the fediverse. Enshittification applies to everything corporate and for-profit.
Linus dies
welp! pack it up! How’s BSD this time of year?
Originally it was a good descriptor of tech companies starting out as useful and then turning to shit as they leaned into becoming profitable, but if you was to use it as “things get shitty in favor of profits” then I guess it could apply to everything.
I liked the original where it had nuance and was a good shorthand specific to the tech trends.
Words can entshitify? Ahhhh. Everything given enough time will gravitate to its natural state of sucking ass. It’s the you didn’t die when you were the hero scenario all the way down.
I mean, thats what happened to “literally” hundreds of years ago…
As long as we are using enshittification for anything going downhill my word example is lose getting an extra ‘o’ which makes reading ‘I hate it when I loose my keys’ painful. Why the hell is that so common now?
Was the ActiBlizz guy the one involved in all the sexual harassment?
ActiBlizz guy
sexual harassment
I’m afraid you’ll need to narrow this down a bit further.
No I don’t, given that it’s taking about the former CEO. Unless there were issues with multiple AB CEOs that I’m not aware of?
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We need an fos alternative
I agree. Discord actually had a metaphor that I think plays well for federation. Specifically, they called each group a server. And organized the UI in a way that would make federation pretty transparent.
The only consufsing bit would be the concept of a home server login ID. Like, the lack of a central identity provider. But I think that isn’t a show stopper.
I kinda wish there were fed ID providers that all fed servers used for login and authentication. I’m not sure exactly how that would work, but being able to have a single identity across mastodon, Lemmy, and any other fed service would really simplify things once you were in the fediverse.
Matrix is a good replacement for the text and image bit of Discord, but can anyone suggest a good alternative for the voice comms?
Matrix also has VoIP
“Well I’ve been rolling down this well-worn road…”
Problem is people are fucking lazy and will not move to another platform. I want teamspeak and vent back but people nowadays won’t even try. So we are forced to keep using it. People have no balls to stand up to corpos just to learn something new. It’s infuriating.
Uh… You stand up to corpos. Just leave. Nobody is forcing you to use it.
That’s well and good for us, but then we are just the isolated few who do it compared to all our friends that stay with discord because they’re comfortable on it.
Gotta take a stand. There have been a few things where I gotta tell friends that I can’t do this. If they won’t change… Meh. Gotta have principles.
I’m not lazy. i have matrix up and ready to go. the issue is I can’t just force 200+ people to just up and abandon a platform where all their stuff is for one community on that platform.
in order for discord to truly die, it needs a HUGE exodus. as right now, my communities are too well integrated.
basically discord needs the same mass exodus that Xitter had to bsky and the elephant one. its the only hope communities have to survive discord dying.
we’re not being lazy. we’re trying to not have whole online communities get upended when discord finally kicks the bucket. (and it will. soon.)
I foresee it more as discord keeps operating fine but with even more embedded ads and trash, and people will become numb to it. Hence ipad baby generation being clueless with how it used to be with very little ads on the internet and corporations continuing to profit off of us.
I want teamspeak and vent
xFire. God I miss xFire. It was better 10 years ago than any service before or since.
Iirc Yahoo frivolous-lawsuit’ed them out of existence. Q_Q
Problem is people are fucking lazy and will not move to another platform.
It’s not that people are lazy, it’s that a feasible alternative does not exist yet.
What is wrong with the available programs out there?
None of them come close to doing a single thing better than Discord, or even at the same level as Discord. There simply isn’t an application that realistically competes with any one of Discord’s features yet, let alone the entire suite. Every other platform currently available is either a downgrade in terms of features/functionality, or costs the user money (which immediately makes it prohibitive for 99% of users).
Revolt seems to be very close to what Discord offers, at least at first glance. Its Free and Open Source too.
Found the lazy
the problem is not that there is no feasible alternative, the problem is network effects.
https://matrix.org/ecosystem/bridges/
You can use matrix and still keep in touch with the lazy people. Having a place for people to go when they eventually get fed up will help a ton.
That is sweet
It should be noted that these only support messaging (including media attachments) but not voice/video calls. I’ve been using bridging for a few years now though.
12 years ago Skype and team speak were the go to for voice chat for gaming. Once someone comes up with a less shitty platform, everyone will start to migrate again.
Another issue is console integration. I’ve got friends I play with using cross-play (PC-PS5), but the only service we can both use is Discord unless they use multiple devices.
I would love to use Mumble, Matrix or Revolt but it’s the same hurdle.
I miss Ventrilo <3
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