• @[email protected]
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    Yes. They missed the part where they specifically and repeatedly said they were going to do this. Because American voters evidently have the cognitive skills of a fucking sea sponge.

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      My sister voted for Trump, only learned after the fact, because of “the inflation” so I asked her how she tough the tariffs would help on that. Her answer? “What do you mean, what are tariffs?” A little too late I send her a youtube video about Tariffs and Trump and she was like wtf. She lives in California, so it’s not like she helped him win, but I’m going to keep a tab on her before elections.

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        This is what the democratic party has to learn. Your sister is a sizable representation of the electorate. They have no goddamn idea how anything works. They voted purely based on vibes. You have to capture the terminally unengaged and uninformed voters if you want to be able to stay in power.

        • @[email protected]
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          53 months ago

          Yup.

          In America you have to lie, or at the very least dangle shiny things in front of idiots, to win an election.

          Sucks, but it’s the truth. Talking about actually policy is out of most fool’s wheelhouses. Gotta appeal to their simple feelings.

      • @[email protected]
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        its low information voters that mostly voted for him besides the incels/joe roegan people.

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        She sounds like a single issue voter.

        Thats really the biggest problem. People not looking at the whole candidate.

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        Ah, because of the famous inflation dial in the US president’s office which Biden kept cranked up for shits and giggles. Well known fact.

        • @[email protected]
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          The inflation which was most likely due to Trump’s bungled handling of COVID…

          The attention span of the average voter is short than that of a goldfish.

    • Tedesche
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      Because American Trump voters evidently have the cognitive skills of a fucking sea sponge.

      FTFU.

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          And some of the Democratic voters might actually approve of them waving little round signs around while they vote for Republican bills and confirm Republican nominations.

          The percentage of Americans who are above sea sponge levels seems to be vanishingly small.

      • @[email protected]
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        Unfortunately the Trump virus has infected other countries too. I’m really proud of Canada for not following us.

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          Oh we still have a major fight on our hands. It was a very close outcome and only happened because we burned our number 3 and 4 parties to the ground to make it happen. That isn’t really a win. It only buys a little time to get our shit together before this happens again.

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    Cambridge Analytica is the reason we’re in this mess. It’s the actual Deep State the Republicans were pointing fingers about

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    Hopefully this is a wakeup call for the folks who don’t vote because they think that both parties are the same.

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        173 months ago

        I still hear plenty of people say that not only are they the same but what is happening right now would have happened regardless who was president.

        I simply do not understand the world these ppl live in

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          I dont understand it either and get massively downvoted for discussing that they aren’t the same.

          It’s disheartening…

        • @[email protected]
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          43 months ago

          Cognitive dissonance is a very real thing. I think it’s a defense mechanism since these people need to believe the group who reflects their beliefs and values must but the best option, bending their (perception of) reality to their opinions rather than the other way around.

          Don’t know these people could live with themselves if they suddenly realized the people they support have no interest in solving their problems and just using them.

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          No you do understand the world they live in. The problem is they don’t understand the world they live in

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            83 months ago

            Correction: Trump’s father BOUGHT a degree from Wharton.

            No one who actually earned a college degree, especially from a notable college, speaks and acts and makes mistakes like Donald Trump.

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              I’m sure Wharton educated trump. Whether any of it mattered… Well that’s the difference between education and intelligence…

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                I wouldn’t be sure. His professor from Wharton said he was the “dumbest fucking student he’s ever had”

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                  Well that’s the difference between education and intelligence…

                  Literally right there.

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      This is by design. Decades of eroding education and critical thinking have produced a populace that is highly ignorant and extremely easy to manipulate.

      There is a reason why attacking education is the first thing any right-wing government does.

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        Amongst wealthy countries, the US scores above average in science and reading comprehension, and are only really showing lag in mathematics. In terms of critical thinking, this has been a baked-in element of the curriculum, that was intentionally baked-in, for a long time now. Most countries are this way, and those that have dedicated time to specifically critical thinking, as its own subject, are relatively new, and not many do it, in primary education, yet. So this means the US is not unique in how poorly students are taught critical thinking, amongst countries with similar levels of resources.

        Also, baby boomers demonstrated a lower level of critical thinking skills, than kids do today, they also show sharper cognitive decline, earlier in life, than X, and millennials have been. So is it that the conservatives have been trying to disassemble the public school system, to move funds to privatized education, thus eroding the common access to education? If so, why does the US actually score well compared to its peers? Why is it that the oldest common generation is actually the worst of the common generations, still alive, for things like critical thinking, and cognitive decline?

        So there is some other factor(s) that make the US seem to stand out on this issue, amongst peers. Could it be US media specifically empowering the voice of morons, because outrage drives viewership, and profit is the only goal to US news/media companies? Is it that the elites within the conservative party have redesigned their entire party structure, and playbook, to empower morons, because morons vote for them more often than not? Is it a combination of these factors, and others, that have been shaping the US in this fashion? Could this be why we have been seeing greater, and greater, pushes from political influence groups, in other countries, that have ties to US wealth? Things like dismantling the NHS, establishing US style media as the dominant party in places like europe (murdoch family owned outlets getting larger pieces of the pie, and pushing sentiment to dismantle not for profit sources, like the BBC, and NPR/PBS, for example), far right parties, trump cocksuckers, putin cocksuckers, etc. have been on the rise for past ten plus years? Could it also be that people are growing increasingly disaffected with capitalism, and there are a lot of people lashing out, lacking understanding of what is causing life to be more difficult, and reaching out, in desperation, to anyone who sounds different from those who got us here, even if it should be obvious those people would likely make these specific issues worse? Is it that these things are also compounded with a growing desire, amongst the growing disproportionately wealthy set, to push all the bad aspects of societal structure, to hasten its collapse, and then swoop in to take over directly?

        IMHO it is all of the factors in the previous paragraph, and others I haven’t bothered to bring up, and not so much the education system, at least not yet. Sorry for the word vomiting in this post.

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            Yes the lead is one of the many issues i didn’t get into, it is on the decline though. However, microplastics is the new lead. We know it affects the endocrine system, as of yet, though, we do not know how, or what the effects will be. Point being, blaming this behavior on education isn’t shooting at the right target, and there are so many targets.

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        Doesn’t help that a whole lot of idiots also think it’s somehow very clever of them to “rise above” it all by acting like it’s “both sides”. This is what passes (for a special kind of smug idiot) for political acumen.

        Of course, the “liberal media” harps on the “both sides” thing all the freaking time. Which is why I find it mighty curious that a lot of supposed “leftists” take up that mantra, too.

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          *Rightists.

          Right wingers are the only people I hear the “both sides” mantra from. I don’t know what media you’re consuming, but you got it ass backwards.

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            The bullshit “liberal media” does the “both sides” thing all the freaking time.

            And I’m talking about an awful lot of supposed leftists on places like Lemmy that do things like “but Biden’s economy was actually BAD!” and so on. I could go on for other examples…now, whether I believe most of them are actual leftists, I dunno…

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              The thing I hear occasionally and that I actually agree with is that from an outsiders’ perspective, the US has a right wing party and a far-right party.

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              That example is not leftists, no matter what they claim. It’s like a lot of “Independent” voters are just too embarrassed to own up to what they really are. “Leftists” or what we call Dems, are more likely to accept their L’s and don’t harbor proven criminals. No Dem was crying when Senator Mendenez was caught, and most believe he deserves whatever punishment he has earned. If they spout republican talking points, and whine like little children, claim their losses were “stolen”, etc then they’re rightists.

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        Indeed, add in all the religious meddling in educational curriculum and you’ve got a recipie for an ignorant population.

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          33 months ago

          And depending on how that SCOTUS ruling goes on religious charter schools…it might accelerate.

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      I always knew this based on education standards/testing, but I wasn’t thinking we were a special needs country. All that revolution and democracy and hundreds of years of success and growth and then we just shoot ourselves in the face.

      But hey, at least we got… to own the libs?

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      Sigh, Its worse than that. Most of us are lazy. Lazy with their thoughts and how they learn new information. By the time they notice how bad they have it wrong you want to slap them. Of course most of them will blame anyone but themselves for their problems.

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      Yup.

      Gonna spend the rest of my life knowing I’m surrounded by fucking morons. And I’m not some genius. I had a typical public education. I guess the difference is I actually paid attention.

      Not a great feeling. Especially since that probably means things aren’t generally gonna get better. Can’t have a good society if it’s overflowing with dipshits.

      • @[email protected]
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        73 months ago

        I’m in the same boat as you. I think I’m pretty middle of the pack. The bottom is filled with genuine morons.

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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        Gonna spend the rest of my life knowing I’m surrounded by fucking morons. And I’m not some genius. I had a typical public education. I guess the difference is I actually paid attention.

        Yep, I’m smart enough to know I’m not that smart. But I can at least look around me and go “This isn’t normal, right?”

        It’s a weird fucking curse to have. Smarter than the average American due to the decades of under-funding the education system. I know how to use a computer more than boomers and younger people stuck using machines locked down by corporations.

        Ask me to do a math question higher than high school level? I’m going to flounder. You ask me who was president in 1890 without looking it up, I probably know it. And I know that’s not exactly a flex, it’s probably overall better to know more advanced math than trivia, but it’s just how my brain works.

        And yet I’m still smarter than Trump and his cultists.

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        203 months ago

        What’s the George Carlin quote? Something about how stupid the most average person you know is, then realize that 50% of people are dumber than that?

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        There’s also the time JCPenney’s actually had everything at the best price and so they weren’t doing discounts. But everyone was waiting for the ‘sales’. Your average American would rather have something be marked up $200 and then listed as 75% off than just pay $50 regular price.

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      We don’t have that on lock, dipshit. Look around you, the entire world is fucking up royally. We just happen to be one of the biggest shitshows going.

      The fact that you treat Americans like a monolith shows that you’re dumb as fuck too.

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        America, as a nation, is unarguably fucking stupid. The rest of the world has been overly influenced by America, due to it’s wealth and power, for a very long time. We used to say that when America sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold. Recent events have seen a great decoupling of the world from America. We’ve seen that the American way is utterly fucked. America is the turd that is sinking whilst the rest of the world will get more buoyant as the new reality sinks in.

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          I think lead poisoning is epidemic in America. Decades of no money being spent on infrastructure will do that.

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        I mean. Many countries are still resisting to the right-wing authoritarian push. Canada for example. Americans democratically elected dt, even after he tried to overturn the government and explicitly stated that he would be a dictator. I don’t think that would have been possible in any other country. So yeah, in a sens, Americans are dumb af. Now if you want to make it semantic question, I guess he should have written " a majority" of Americans “electors” are dumb, but it’s kind of implicit IMO. Kind of like saying dogs likes to run, obviously there’s probably some that don’t like to run, but the majority does.

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        Just accept it. We have free healthcare for 50 years.

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          Who TF is talking g about Healthcare? I love how so many people keep hitting that. MOST OF US KNOW YOU STUPID TWAT. However, millions and millions of us donating money, fighting, and marching can’t fight against the RICHEST MAN ON THE PLANET.

          He’s coming for your country too. Can’t wait.

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            Because you think health not matter, it just prove 'murica short seeing.

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        Yeah, I dunno broseph. Lots of other first world countries have things like universal healthcare, paternity leave, significant and mandatory vacation, longer lifespans, generally higher quality of life and happiness, politics that aren’t straight up clown shows, more human rights.

        You’ve successfully nailed an obvious generalization that there are stupid people everywhere, but the point is that stupidity is hyper-concentrated in the good ol’ US of A. As is evident.

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          No one was arguing that, stay on point. I KNOW and most democrats do about the fucking shitshow that is our government’s treatment of its people.

          I’m devastated by my country and will die in feeling. So again, you’re an obvious idiot as well.

          Also, bro, women exist online. I know, shocker.