• kbal
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    Sucks if you’re in France. For the rest of us it should be interesting to see which of these VPN providers choose to comply by geo-blocking France, which choose to cut any ties they have with France and otherwise ignore the order, and which to abandon their mission and become agents of censorship on behalf of France.

    • @[email protected]
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      142 months ago
      1. They will comply
      2. The rest of us won’t be far behind

      They stand to lose a good portion of their business if they can’t service France. They’ll comply.

      • Kami
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        42 months ago

        I am sorry your VPN provider sucks so much that you are sure of something that hasn’t even happened yet. Time to switch to a good one, am I right?

      • @[email protected]
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        112 months ago

        Malicious compliance could be of help? For example, blocking the streaming sites for their endpoints that are local to France, if any?

        • @[email protected]
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          82 months ago

          Likely. What I said has more to do with “we’re next.” If this is successful in France, other countries will follow suit or at the very least get pressure from the IP lobby to follow.

      • DebatableRaccoon
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        72 months ago

        They stand to lose a lot more business if they bend the knee. What person is going to use a hamstringed VPN? It almost completely misses the point of having one.

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          Population of France is 66.6 (lol) million people. If even 1% use VPNs that’s a potential market of 666,000 users. At ~$5/mo per user that’s a prospectus of $40 million annually. If I were a VPN provider I would absolutely want a piece of that pie rather than not, and all’s they have to do is follow the law–exactly as they have been this entire time…

          So yeah, I absolutely think they’re going to comply.

          • 52fighters
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            72 months ago

            How much of the VPN market goes away after enforcing this law?

          • NuraShiny [any]
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            32 months ago

            The population of just Europe, Canada and the USA is a combined is over 1 billion. I would say those are the most common countries where people pay for VPNs.

            Let’s say one billion flat minus France. If just 1% of those people subscribe to a VPN at 5$/month, that’s 1.2 billion dollars annually.

            Who would you rather alienate, assuming they would have to alienate one or the other?

            The could also just see where you are connecting from and disable this feature for just french connections. Steam can do it for NSFW games in Germany.

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              The population of just Europe, Canada and the USA is a combined is over 1 billion.

              Congratulations? This has absolutely nothing at all to do with what I’ve said. Not even tangentially. I’m expressly and singularly speaking of France here. EU, Canada and the US combined populations change nothing about what I’ve said at all…

              You look to be fighting a wet paper bag here… Sad to see honestly.

              • NuraShiny [any]
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                I am comparing customer bases. It really shouldn’t be that difficult to understand that.

                Also…fighting a wet paper bag? That’s the best you got?

  • warm
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    Trying to fight piracy like this is just an endless game of whack-a-mole. Countries should not be wasting time with laws, let the corporations suffer until they provide a better product.

    • @[email protected]
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      322 months ago

      Hard agree. Government exists to make the populaces life better. It’s WHY we replaced kings with it. And yet …

  • @[email protected]
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    Don’t want this to happen? Vote for a left wing party in your area or nationally. Change won’t be immediate, but every vote counts. The right wingers are friends of business and unfettered capitalism. They will let this happen time and time again.

    Anti Commercial-AI license

    • @[email protected]
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      82 months ago

      And get invested in local movements for actual left representation, especially in the US where we’re stuck with 2 far right parties.

    • Night Monkey
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      Even when the so-called left wingers were in charge, they didn’t do Jack squat. They’re both worthless

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        Sure, the anticapitalists won’t be anticapitalistic. That’s just an excuse not to vote “they’re both the same”, then wonder why right wingers keep driving countries closer to the cliff edge.

        Anti Commercial-AI license

        • Night Monkey
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          52 months ago

          Their antics are theater. Have you not figured this out yet? They pretend to be on opposite teams.