• @[email protected]
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    301 month ago

    I’m trying really hard not to comment something like “Welcome to one of many, many joys of living with an immature teenage child.”

    Kicking the ice under the fridge is actually one of the least aggravating of the shitty things to do in the kitchen, but so indicative of what type of person they are. Other well-known classics include leaving a microscopically small portion of milk in the carton to avoid having to rinse the thing out and place it in the recycle bin and using the last clean cup in the cabinet so that you don’t have to bring one of the dozen+ dirty cups you’ve accumulated in your room to the kitchen to be cleaned for reuse. Oh, and let’s not forget drop a spoon of peanut butter the floor and leave it for the dog to clean up even though you know she’s allergic to it so it makes her throw up and then later on causes a bunch of skin issues for her.

    No, I’m not the least bit bitter. Why do you ask?

    • @[email protected]
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      211 month ago

      I have a relative, full grown adult, they threw away a big-gulp cup almost entirely filled with ice into my trash. I do not have industrial trash-bags, I am not a mall, we do not have wheeled bins to collect solid and fluid waste at the end of the day. I have flimsy dollar-store trash can liners, because like most people, I am but a human of limited means.

      I grabbed the cup and asked them why they did that. They stared at me without a hint of recognition or understanding. I pressed.

      “The cup full of ice, why did you throw it away in the trash? The sink is two feet away.”

      Still puzzled. “So? it’s just ice.”

      “WHAT IS ICE MADE OF?”

      They shrugged. I sighed and let it go.

      This story doesn’t end there though. Because it led me to the most depressing epiphany of my adult life, which is that people broadly are not thinking. And I don’t mean it in an edgy “I’m smarter than everyone” way, because I realized I am equally unthinking about a vast number of things, it’s just that most people run on autopilot through their entire day, their entire week, their entire lives. You can be very, very smart and educated, and still not think.

      So what is thinking then? It’s conscious narrative exploration of current events in one’s head, using language, using questions, using tools to rapidly explore the world around you as you move through it. I realized that I do that constantly (and that’s also considered being on the spectrum.) It’s why I don’t throw full cups of liquid into other people’s trash bags, but it’s also why I’m miserable and overthink everything and have severe anxiety. No filter, no autopilot.

      Our population only “thinks” when they’re struggling, trying to overcome an obstacle, and for most of us, our obstacles are so abstract and hard to quantify that we just ride through our days. Capitalism has fueled an incentive to seek comforts and conveniences, so the vast majority of our day is in pursuit of comfort and conveniences, so we can stop thinking. The reward we seek is also our doom.

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        21 month ago

        Very well said!

        It’s like everybody wants an easy shortcut to living a good life, and they don’t know the secret, so they just go through life on autopilot letting society tell them what they should be into.

        Sometimes remembering to live in the moment and appreciate the simple things will be the best part of my day.

      • @[email protected]
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        51 month ago

        I have this formative moment from my teenage years where I finished something in the fridge and asked my parents if I should leave the packaging in there. My dad, obviously frustrated with the question, snapped back asking if I saw an accumulation of empty packaging in the fridge.

        My kids are starting to do this now. I’m still perplexed why this is the default our brains take.

        • @[email protected]
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          41 month ago

          I think its just a “this was in there before so it must go back in after im done using it,” since it’s only when it’s fully empty that changes.

        • @[email protected]
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          61 month ago

          I think I’m more forgiving if it’s literal kids, like teenagers and younger, at least they have the excuse of not having fully formed brains yet and are always distracted anyway, any generation.

          My worry is the people I referenced in my anecdotal lament are well into adulthood, and it’s not isolated. I clearly remember a time when things were different. Everyone is acting like distracted teenagers through conversations, business calls, work appointments and using services. When your primary view of the world is through the lens of the broad internet, it can be easy to miss because there is the slimmest barrier of entry to get to a site like “Lemmy” but now most average internet users just scroll the home-screen on their phone or use social media apps that aggregate content. We’re at a 20% functional illiteracy rate for the US and this should be some kind of alarm that goes off and locks the entire country down when seen in at the same time as a 500% increase in reported "air rage incidents."

          We’re heading for a zombie apocalypse.

          • @[email protected]
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            226 days ago

            I read through that literacy link a bit. Very interesting. I was assuming at least a majority of the adult illiteracy was from people born outside the country, but that’s only 34% of them! Do you know how California has the lowest rate by state? Are those 34% concentrated there, or is public school particularly bad there? I’m not American.

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              126 days ago

              I haven’t looked into the methodology but I would wager off the top of my head that it has to do with the large migrant population in America. (you’ve probably seen a little bit of news about it) California being a highly populated, coastal state with a booming economy means it has more of everything. It has the most problems and conversely it has the most high-tech, progressive ideas and industries.

      • @[email protected]
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        31 month ago

        You’re overthinking this. He doesn’t care because he didn’t see the consequences. He throws in the ice. He cleans and take shot the trash.

        A lot of people start thinking real fast when they have to face the consequences of their actions.

        • @[email protected]
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          31 month ago

          years back, my eldest daughter was the only one in the family with long hair (wife and I keep ours short, at the time the rest of the kids also kept short hair - that’s changed now), and she would just let that go down the drain in the bath, which would eventually clog the drain.

          The first couple times, I cleaned it and had gotten one of those strainer things to help keep the hair out. She would always “forget” to use it, even though it was always over the drain (the plug is one of those pop-up ones so you can open and close it without moving the strainer out of the way).

          The next time the drain clogged, I handed her a bag and an old pair of pliers and told her to get to cleaning. That strainer has been on the drain ever since.

        • @[email protected]
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          21 month ago

          Isolated incidents of ignorance are common, but I have seen a clear shift on a larger scale. There are a lot of statistics that back up a larger-scale decline in cognitive abilities in Americans in particular.

          A lot of people start thinking real fast when they have to face the consequences of their actions.

          Our population only “thinks” when they’re struggling, trying to overcome an obstacle,

          I’m not talking about my isolated incident, I’m noticing a larger issue, isolated incidents are becoming more common, that’s what I wrote out.

    • @[email protected]
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      21 month ago

      I don’t mind that, because I use a small amount of milk for coffee and even a tiny bit is enough.

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    Fake: OP outside their house

    Gay: spending time with a man

    • @[email protected]
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      221 month ago

      This is my cats job. If he hears an ice cube fall he will run in, find it, and start batting it around the floor. Within seconds it’s under the fridge.

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        I have two cats and one of them can play with a toy reliably for whole minutes at a time without losing it under a piece of furniture, the other one, instantly pushes it under the sofa. Why?

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          11 month ago

          I don’t have it on have but some theorize it’s to recreate the endorphin rush they get when you play with them and it’s momentarily out of sight. Having to find it is part of the fun; of course, they’re unable to find it, now…

          Dunno how universally that’s held but I did read it, one time.

    • @[email protected]
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      431 month ago

      I asked my wife to pick up ice cubes she dropped because it would be too easy to slip on them. I might have lost it when she then tried to kick them under the fridge.

      • magnetosphere
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        Ugh. I hate wearing wet socks SO MUCH that I don’t even like thinking about it. Dammit.

    • @[email protected]
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      341 month ago

      that’s how you get cold puddle of water that you might step your socks in. the biggest ick.

      • @[email protected]
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        251 month ago

        They’re on the floor. How would I get them to the sink?? I don’t think even Messi could kick them up there.

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          So there’s these things halfway up your legs and they’re called knees. These can bend so that you can lower your upper body towards the floor, allowing your arms to reach the ice cube when extended.

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    Maybe it’s because I’ve mainly lived in temperate climates but this seems like a great way to get a lot of mold under your fridge.

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    • me, an icecube
    • finally, it’s my day to shine
    • someone finally takes me out of the fridge
    • clumsy mofo drops me, I’m spiraling downwards into the deep unkown
    • when i think it can’t be worse, i got kicked back into the darkness i came from
    • fml
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      • me, an ice cube
      • ugh, no I don’t want to leave the freezer
      • oh no! He’s picking me! Grab one of my annoying neighbours please!
      • you know what? I’ll jump out of his hands! He’ll surely have to pick me up and put me back.
      • what the fuck? He just kicks me underneath the freezer to melt uselessly?!
      • fml
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        241 month ago
        • me, an ice cube
        • can’t wait to get out of this place
        • door opens every day, but never get to leave
        • anon finally picks me out–this is my chance
        • wriggle out of his inept grip
        • make a break for freedom under the fridge
        • mfw the fuckwit helps by actually kicking me further under
        • @[email protected]
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          81 month ago
          • me, an ice cube
          • want to see the outside
          • the door opens and i get picked
          • exited i try to look around
          • get dropped on the floor, still exited
          • get kicked under the fridge
          • enraged i take revenge by feeding mold and warping the floor
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      101 month ago

      Ah, then you’re nurturing the community of scorpions and centipedes. Best to do that so they don’t start an uprising.

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          My less cheeky advice for not doing it, is that it’s also very dusty there, and leaving water pooled on the floor anywhere basically just makes thin layers of dust/skin concrete that build up over time, it will be a gross pain to clean someday and will provide a nice little starter-ecosystem that holds moisture better.

          It’s all fun and games until you see your first monster scuttle out from under there during a monsoon season.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 month ago

        All houses/apartments have underfloor heating in at least the entryway and the bathroom and the vast majority also have it in the kitchen. I even lived in a place that had it through the whole flat. I’m poor as shit, so I just assumed it was commonplace everywhere.

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          I’ve lived in one apartment that had underfloor heating and it was like a very expensive massive 4 bedroom one.

  • @[email protected]
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    My brother-in-law did this at my house the other day! My jaw almost hit the floor watching him try to kick that shit under the fridge. He did it in front of his son too. They didn’t seee behind them, so I bent over and picked up the cubes and told them we don’t do that in this house. I told my wife and she told her sister, they were both surprised. I had no idea people did this. Just pick them up and toss them in the sink.

      • Novaling
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        31 month ago

        Yeah I either let my cat play with the ice or put it in her waterbowl.

        • @[email protected]
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          271 month ago

          Between the 5 second rule and rinsing, the ice is probably cleaner than it was from the tray.

          • Lv_InSaNe_vL
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            Ice is naturally antimicrobial because North Face doesn’t make any coats small enough for bacteria and whatever so they get too cold and drive their little RVs down to Little Florida

      • @[email protected]
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        191 month ago

        you are joking, but lately i’ve been seeing reusable ice cubes made of a plastic cube with water inside…

        just… eww

        • @[email protected]
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          141 month ago

          I’m actually not joking, if you rinse an ice cube. Superficial ice immediately melts and is rinsed away. You could have dipped it in engine oil and it would be immediately pure ice after rinsing.

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            My ice cubes are small enough that rinsing them would waste more water than just tossing the very few that fall. I toss em in the sink.

          • @[email protected]
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            71 month ago

            Yeah, it’s probably fine… but still, it’s just an ice cube. Maybe if it’s like… the last one or something.

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            You’re assuming that all the contamination is on the surface, but there is hair, lint, and other particles under your fridge that will stick into the ice.

            Also, your example of motor oil was a poor choice. Oil is probably not going to stick to your ice, unless it is in contact long enough to freeze, or get viscous enough to cling to it, and oil will not rinse away cleanly.

            Also, how bad to you need to save one ice cube?

            • @[email protected]
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              41 month ago

              Ooh ooh, I want to escalate this thread into entirely new levels of unrealistic pedantry by talking about both hydrogen atoms and our own neurology and perceptions.

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              Hair and lint can stick to the ice, but try it for yourself, ice isn’t a sponge. The only way for anything on the surface to work it’s way in is to melt it’s way in, and then freeze the outer shell again. Akin to dropping the ice, kicking it under the fridge, fishing it back out, tossing it back into the ice tray. In which case, you deserve all the hair in your cocktail.

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          211 month ago

          just… eww

          Why? Just clean them after every use. How is a plastic cube different than drinking from a plastic cup?

          I have steel cubes with liquid inside (not sure if water) and I love them. I can put ice cubes into beer and other drinks without watering them down.

          • @[email protected]
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            21 month ago

            The steel cubes have liquid inside too? I figured that solid steel would have enough mass and thermal… dynamics? to act as an ice cube, but maybe water is still better. Actually, do they sink or float?

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              21 month ago

              solid metal cubes are probably too expensive and could break the glass

              although liquid filled would break or bow out if the liquid freezes

          • @[email protected]
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            Why? Just clean them after every use. How is a plastic cube different than drinking from a plastic cup?

            the plastic cup is made to be thrown away, otherwise you’d be drinking out of a nice glass/ceramic cup if you were gonna wash it anyways

            the plastic cubes would shred more and more microplastics as you wash them-and inevitably scuff the surface even more

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              My partner went through a period where she dropped so many cups and glasses that I got a set of reusable plastic tumblers.

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            I got tired of wondering what the random particles were that ended up in my ice, plus that smell and taste, so I tried getting a metal ice cube tray and now my ice is just ice. Dunno what but something was leeching from the plastic tray into the ice. It was old, so maybe that had something to do with it.

            But yeah, I agree that there’s not much difference from drinking from a plastic cup, which is why most of my cups are glass and my water bottles are metal. I still have a few plastic cooking utensils but have been transitioning to wooden and metal. I stopped using non stick pans, too. Dunno how much of a difference it’s making in my life but I make an effort to minimize all plastic use.

          • @[email protected]
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            Metal ones seem nice. I agree with the plastic ones being shitty though. It just seems like more waste and microplastics being added to my brain fork.

          • @[email protected]
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            maybe some antibacterial agent but they can’t straight up put car coolant or it would kill people if accidentally ingested

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              Propylene glycol/water mix would be my guess; they noticeably don’t crystalize the same way pure water does

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          I have metal versions. I don’t really use em, but they’re for stuff like alcoholic drinks or whiskey on ice but for if you don’t want it to get watered down, just cold. I have two that look like metal golf balls and 6 that are small cubes,and they generally just sit somewhere atm.

          I’ve used em to cool booze before, but I haven’t drank any high percentage alcohol in a while.

          • @[email protected]
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            31 month ago

            Don’t put ice in your whisky. It’s supposed to be enjoyed at room temperature optionally with a splash of water. If you chill it the aromatic flavours are muted and it tastes bland.

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        181 month ago

        Melt the ice cube, boil the resulting water to evaporate it, collect the vapour in a condenser, refreeze it… boom!