• @[email protected]
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    Daily reminder to all ICE agents. By signing up for ICE, you have signed yourself up for a lifetime of fear and criminal liability. There are Nazi concentration camp guards that were tried for their crimes in their 90s. There is no statute of limitations on crimes against humanity. Your names are recorded; your deeds are known. And you will face justice for your crimes. And do not count on a blanket pardon saving you. Crimes against humanity are violations of international law that cannot be pardoned.

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      They should also remember that murder peaked immediately post WWII in Europe as people got even with their Nazi tormenters.

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        They will complain that women won’t want to date them, but they also get to live in fear that the women who will date them are secretly planning to [redacted] them like O-Ren Ishii.

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      Your optimism can only be admired. However the US has already stated multiple times that it doesn’t care about international law and that Americans cannot be tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity, or they will invade the Netherlands. The ICC cannot even detain an American. This was during W Bush and his “war on terror”.

      And then Trump recently reiterated it with a new executive order, imposing penalties and visa restrictions on people even helping the ICC to investigate Americans.

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        You’re assuming the US survives. If the federal government collapses chucking federal agents at the ICC would be a decent way to earn international legitimacy without expending worthwhile resources.

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        Yes, obviously, but these type of comments are self-defeating and unhelpful. It’s more about trying to encourage the circulation of the idea that ICE needs to face criminal accountability. There should be a paragraph on ICE’s potential criminal liability in every article about them. People should mention their susceptibility to prosecution on every discussion about them. We should be including the topic of prosecutions in every casual conversation about ICE.

        The right wing learned a long time ago that the public narrative matters. If there’s an idea worth spreading, then spread it. We need to get the idea of accountability in the public consciousness whenever possible. Otherwise, it’s the default instinct of every Democratic politician to try to be magnanimous when they’re elected. Liberals are by their nature non-confrontational; they’re happy to have people walk all over them. Obama and Biden both refused to prosecute the previous administration and tried to be grand peace makers, and look how that turned out. It will take a lot of public pressure if there’s ever going to be any accountability. That’s why we need to be circulating these ideas in the Zeitgeist. Yes, obviously this is just lemmy, but there’s no need to be such an unhelpful cynic.

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          Thank you. I am fully on board and you’re 100% speaking my language.

          I’m a cynic because I want people to get pissed off. At least pissed off people might do something.

          The left is sleeping on actually utilizing the Internet for spreading ideas. They need to stop showing up in the street and start actually producing content.

          Like I just checked out Joe Rogan sub Reddit to see people shitting on him and found stuff like this. It’s funny and honestly gets so much attention even though it’s stupid. Where the fuck is this stuff on Lemmy. Are we just here to passively read articles and yell how we’re going to punch a Nazi and then not even bother to fight Nazi shit online?

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            95 days ago

            Yeah, whenever i see someone here saying that we need to resort to violence, my immediate thought is always, “Ok tough guy, where’s your truck bomb?”

            I do more IRL resistance work than at least 95% of the people on this site. And I’m not even talking protests. I’m directly, on the ground, working to help some of the people most hurt by the regime’s policies. I’m not into violence, but I’m not above disobeying unjust laws either. So it’s not like I’m some online slactavist that refuses to lift a finger to actually help people. The kind of work I do is the kind of thing I can’t even post about on social media.

            But it is an incredible shame how the right has taken over so many online spaces. 10-15 years ago, the left more dominated online spaces. The early internet was a mix of very libertarian and progressive. Hell the internet was built from the ground up on socialist principles. But it’s the right that really learned how to use the net most effectively as a means of mass communication and propaganda. And they did so quite deliberately. There was a deliberate and organized campaign among white supremacists on places like stormfront to subtly move their message to the mainstream.

            I think those on the left tend to view things from way too scholarly a perspective. Why repeat the same message if you’ve already written extensively about it before? Or make sure to not post simple understandable messages; instead start with a dozen qualifiers and provisos that end up watering down your whole message. It’s more important to be intellectually rigorous than it is to effectively communicate your values. Or there’s the tendency for purity tests that end up shoving away otherwise eager allies.

            The right meanwhile has learned that even bold faced lies can become widely accepted if you simply repeat them loudly and often enough.

  • @[email protected]
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    Yo Murica - something something, freedom of speech, tyrants & 2nd amendment? - or nah.

    🤡

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    Now with his own GeStaPo with a budget bigger than most of the worlds militaries, he can finally eradicate any opposition with ease. Well done, American voters, you got yourself a Führer.

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    It’s about this app: https://www.iceblock.app/. Download it, use it.

    Why TF has this topic been around for hours and has no one posted this? Why is the drama again made more important than the substance? Don’t let the hysteria win.

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      Download it, use it.

      It is apparently restricted to US iTunes accounts only, for some brainless reason. So a lot of people who could potentially benefit from it simply can’t.

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        The fact it’s not available on f-droid makes me think it’s a honeypot.

        Apple only, no website, is suspect af for an app that requires maximum privacy.

        EDIT: maybe just incompetent devs, which is just as bad as the end result will be equivalent to a honeypot.

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        The website offers an explanation as to why there is no Android version. Basically it’s because Android would require them to maintain a database of Android users, which is a security issue if it gets confiscated by the government. They call those privacy concerns “non-negotiable,” and suggest Android users but a cheap old iPhone model to use the app.

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          This way, the database of users is maintained by Apple, which is much more secure against Trump. /s

          Apparently the dev is an Apple fanboy and does not understand Android. You can do the exact same thing on Android as you did on Apple, except the data would still be with Google.

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          The apk could be released outside of Google and its policies. They could even open source it.

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        Can you tell us anything more about the app? How safe is it? Is there a discussion anywhere about it? Thank you.

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    Noem told reporters alongside Trump on July 1 as they toured a new detention center in the Florida Everglades known as “Alligator Alcatraz.” “Alligator Auschwitz.”

    That’s the correct name.

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      Do we know yet that it’s an extermination camp? Because it’s not like it’s the first modern concentration camp in the US. We’ve just been calling them detention centers.

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        Auschwitz started as “just a concentration camp” too.

        Eventually countries will stop accepting our deportees and then what will they do? The answer is simple:

        They’ll come up with a final solution.

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        I saw a good Dachau-pun name for it, but it might have been so morbid I blocked it out, because I can’t remember what it was

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    And they’ll bend the knee. Throw some scapegoat under the bus, because this is the new Fascist America.

    You chose this, America. Now no one will save us.

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    Oh cool, a president threatening to prosecute the press for reporting on something factually correct. Cool cool cool.

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    Trump is a big man baby with mayonnaise for a brain.

    But most of civilized society already knows this.

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    Don’t owrry, he’ll file a spurious lawsuit against them soon, which they will immediately settle, in a totally-not-legalized-bribe means of smoothing over the upset.

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      It’s worked for ABC and CBS, why not CNN? Just threaten to pull their broadcast licenses, and accept a settlement bribe.

      I suspect CNN won’t be the last.

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    I can’t believe I’m living though my country’s Nazi era. History will not be kind to us. I hate all of this. My sister voted for this and I’ll never forgive her.

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      My entire damned family voted for it… even my closest sibling who had never voted republican in her life… that other side indoctrinated hard… I’m so disgusted, and she even said “I’m so sad ice picked up one of my favorite co-workers!” “And you voted for that” apparently wasn’t the comfort she was seeking.

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          Ignorant isn’t the right word. There has been a coordinated propaganda campaign for 30 years pointing toward this goal. What you’re seeing in these people didn’t happen overnight. Yes they are also ignorant. Nazi sympathizers were average citizens. Fascist propaganda is a powerful drug.

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          Too fucking true… just hurts to see it close by. I know she’s smart… she’s just, well indoctrinated… that cult is a hell of a drug

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            It IS a drug - Dopamine - and they are addicted to it. The Conservative Propaganda Machine knows it, and feeds it, giving them constant hits of Dopamine all day.

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            I’m sorry for your pain - I can’t imagine how hard this is for you. Hang in there, we feel for you.

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        Even if we can finally purge MAGA from our government, and even have it declared a terrorist/hate organization, how do we deal with millions of brainwashed idiots? They aren’t going to change their minds easily, and accept that they were conned.

        They were conned once, they can be easily conned again.

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          if only there were some prior precedent of a nation state going mad and hitting rock bottom in the most catastrophic way imaginable, then pulling its head out of its arse and going to become a productive member of the world economy we could look to. That would be most excellent, ja?

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      I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. “So do I,” said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.

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    The United States provides the best historical reenactment of Nazi Germany ever. Living history in action folks!

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      Donald Cuck and his band of children molesters have been obsessed with Hitler forever. We were always a fascist nation, now we are a fascist nation of Nazi cosplayers.

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    So, are the democrats and the American people, and all our public institutions, and private industry just going to sit around and let these fascist losers ruin everything, forever? Is that the plan? It really looks like that’s the plan right now.

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      It makes more sense when you fully understand what people mean when they say both sides.

      People who want to argue that point take it to mean “both sides are the same”. What it really means is both sides are complicit. It’s good cop bad cop. The good cop has to keep up appearances, to sell the illusion of choice and safety. While the bad cop takes all the heat.

      And if you want evidence, just look at how things have gone in the last 40 years. Republicans take 3 steps right, democrats take 1 step left. Well, do the math. That’s a net result of 2 steps to the right without recoarse. Now repeat for 40 years, and you have a situation where it’s literally gotten to nazi america tactics.

      The old barometer for how far they’ve gone is when they undid roe v wade. Now, thats so far in the rear view, that we’re at a point where unidentified government agents are kidnapping people on the street, without even confirming they have reason to arrest them, and at times killing them in the process.

      Let me repeat that. We’re at a point where government officials are now grabbing people off the street and killing them, without so much as a confirmation of their identity.

      But don’t worry, the democrats are going to wave their fingers in a “no no no” motion, real hard. We’ll all be fiiiiiiine! Well, unless of coarse you’re brown enough, or just mistaken for an opposing opinion.

      Yeah. Both sides.

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        It makes sense why the cult and its leaders call progressives the “extreme left” because the center and the right has shifted so much.

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          The cult thinks Dick Cheney is the extreme left. They have no idea how far off the cliff they’ve fallen

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        There is still gay marriage in this country, and abortion was legal for 30 years. Very, very recently we have taken several steps to the right. Things have become much more open socially.

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          Damn, the bar really is on the floor, huh? Ya’ll’re gunna have to do a lot better than “gay people are barely allowed to marry in places where they have less of s chance of being beaten or killed for being out” and “we had abortion rights once but those were blown away and now the current admin that’s only just getting started is making sure things only get worse”.

          I know them there readin’ skills ain’t top-notch in ‘Merica but maybe you would all benefit from looking to the rest of the world and understanding that the USA is pretty fucking dogshit in comparison to not only a long list of betters but even compared to a few of the countries that it considers to be backwater.

          The USA sucks, big time. Horrid place full of horrid people doing horrid things under a horrid system they keep desperately trying to pretend is the only option despite all the evidence even from within their own recent past. Do better.

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      No one is broadcasting the revolution. Throw sugar in ICE gas tanks, cut the power to Heritage Foundation offices, and shut the fuck up about it.

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      I have 3 guns and am purchasing a 4th soon. I’ve added 8 cameras to the perimeter of my home.

      I am not going to win, but I’ll go down fighting.

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      Comedian turned activist Cliff Cash has a public call to action if you’re interested. He’s asking anyone who can come to Washington D.C. to join him to go to congressional offices this next Monday. It’s likely to not be a silver bullet to all this fascist bullshit but it’s a good fight.

      https://youtu.be/p02auUgYREw

      I’m also pretty sure there are similar efforts and protests near you if you can’t make the trip today.