• LiveLM
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    Giving 30% for Steamworks Multiplayer servers and matchmaking, player inventory and trading, modding support w/ workshop, forums, cloud saves: 🙅

    Giving 30% because players ‘spend irresponsibly’: ✅✅✅

  • Jakob Fel
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    91 day ago

    No, it’s that Valve reinvests their cut into improving the platform. Wild that devs can’t figure that out.

    • @[email protected]
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      41 day ago

      devs aren’t smart people. talented, yes. smart, no.

      I worked with many devs making $100-200k a year and could barely afford their apartments because they were so spread thin financially. spending $100+ a day eating 3 meals a day out. “investment” in crypto scams. girlfriends(yes plural). $4k a month rent for apartments that are way too extravagant for someone who spends 80% of their time at the office. driving nice cars with monthly leases in the $2-3k range. living on credit cards.

      the only time I saw most of these guys get their shit together was when they got married.

  • @[email protected]
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    This just sounds like sour grapes whining paid for by Epic games who actually just want that to be them rather than Steam, despite Steam having provided the same service for free, consistently, for multiple decades now. The real offense here is PC Gamer attacking its primary consumer base (try to tell me the majority of PC gamers aren’t Steam users), so you KNOW Epic is paying a shit-ton for this manufactured consent and wish-casting. Counterpoint to this article: having more games that you want to play than you have time for, without breaking the bank, is GOOD actually, and other launch platforms only seek to enshittify YOUR experience for their own gain. Thanks!

    Edit: grammar

  • Green Wizard
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    252 days ago

    Will I get around to playing my whole library? God no, but do i want to give this indie Dev my money? God yes!

  • @[email protected]
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    1592 days ago

    In defense of the ‘drunken sailors’ of Steam, many of the games they’ve bought are likely to still be playable for a long time, some were bought in half-yearly sales, and some were part of ‘bundles’ that were bought for a different game. The 30% also pays for the Content Delivery Network, marketing, a forum and sometimes moderation, and a genuine customer feedback mechanism. Who wouldn’t want to be part of an un-enshittified system? Fanboy? You bet. I’m not saying they can do no wrong, but they’re doing a lot right.

    • natryamar
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      922 days ago

      buying a game for 90% off sure sounds responsible to me lol

      • @[email protected]
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        522 days ago

        I’ve spent ~$1200 and have 227 games to show for it. Plus now works on almost any computer and cloud saves. Steam offers so much gonna be hard to unseat them.

      • TheLowestStone
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        212 days ago

        Yup. I bought The Forest for $2 a year ago and I’m sure I’ll play it eventually.

    • @[email protected]
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      132 days ago

      If gaben decides tomorrow to shut it all down, everything is gone. They might have a lot of good will based on past behavior, but in the end it’s still a company and you have zero control over what they do. You don’t actually own any of those games.

      • Rentlar
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        152 days ago

        Technically, uh no. Many of the games I haven’t loaded onto my PC would no longer be accessible, correct. But I have a copy of Goldberg emulator, in case Valve doesn’t hold up their end of the bargain.

        • @[email protected]
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          42 days ago

          Then technically I am correct? If Valve just shuts down, it’s all gone. You might find a workaround for some of the stuff you happen to have downloaded right now, but in general, everything you “bought” is gone.

          • @[email protected]
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            142 days ago

            Technically it would be the same case for GOG too if that happened, since the average consimer doesn’t back up all the games they pay for.

            In the end when it comes to digital most consumers rely on convenience and trust than taking the extra step to back up stuff so they remove the dependency.

            That’s why the actual back up for lot of people is piracy as the final line of defense and archiving.

          • @[email protected]
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            52 days ago

            “Technically, if your computer breaks and you can’t recover those games after Valve decides to close its doors, those games are gone forever.” Yeah, and? Is there a storefront that doesn’t apply to? Just how long do you think CDs and floppy disks (and the hardware to access them) last, if you haven’t lost them already? Is it more or less than Valve’s lifespan so far?

      • @[email protected]
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        52 days ago

        If steam shutdown it would probably mean PC gaming itself is dead and the industry is in really big trouble.

  • @[email protected]
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    202 days ago

    Barely bought anything this year because I am still finishing Factorio. 1600 hours on steam and countless more from the non steam version of the game.

    The factory must grow. My SA deathworld save is up to around 3000 SPM.

    • @[email protected]
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      102 days ago

      Factorio is a game where I’ll spend so much time and getting pretty far. Then I’ll “refactor” some parts for efficiency. Then I get like a new science and I’ll be like, I can’t make this work and give up.

      Then I’ll start again later thinking I’ll get it right the next time!

      Although, if I had my robo flying stuff set up correctly then this wouldn’t be an issue.

    • @[email protected]
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      52 days ago

      I put Factorio down for a bit. I have almost 4,000 hours in Factorio, and almost 3,000 hours in Dyson Sphere Program. Been playing Derail Valley Simulator, Schedule 1, and Vintage Story recently.

      • @[email protected]
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        32 days ago

        Vintage Story is one I have played a lot of, got it a long time ago before they even had seasons or food spoilage.

  • Obinice
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    392 days ago

    I wondered which studio would be bold enough to do blatantly insult an entire marketplace of potential customers, but it’s just some guy.

    Chris Zukowski.

    I am a game marketing consultant and strategist. I have helped Games-as-a-Service companies, indie publishers, and small to single-person teams understand their audience and communicate with them in a more personal way.

    Funny way to communicate with your clients audience mate, calling us all “a bunch of drunken sailors”…

    I specialize in optimizing your marketing for the Steam algorithm

    Ah, so you’re part of the reason nothing has a soul any more. Got it.

  • Shadowedcross
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    162 days ago

    I do have a lot of games but most of them came from big bundles from Humble Bundle.

    • @[email protected]
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      152 days ago

      Word. It’s not hoarding it’s “yeah I’d pay $16 dollars for that one game and I’ll give a couple of others a go”. I didn’t just never get around to Kane and Lynch, I never had any interest in it.

      • @[email protected]
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        32 days ago

        Aww man K+L has one of the most surreal co-op experiences ever put into a video game.

        It legit gets one player to think the other has gone completely off the rails.

  • @[email protected]
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    21 day ago

    Heh as if I wasn’t an idiot and bloated my own steam library with fanatical mystery bundles and all those developers didn’t walk away with a completely random dollar and a chance to actually have a game get noticed and steam got zilch.

    It honestly just sounds like a productive economy that’s constantly moving and giving opportunities to developers even if they aren’t getting nothing but ravid fans. Like how busking might work in a wealthy thriving city compared to a poor one.

  • Jo Miran
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    You best be glad these sailors are drunk and laying about on their hoard. Before Steam, those sailors were pirates. Do not tempt them to set sail again.

  • @[email protected]
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    402 days ago

    When I first got a Steam account, my original plan was to buy every game released on it. But now that’s impossible.

    • Nate
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      572 days ago

      Well, not with that attitude!

  • @[email protected]
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    92 days ago

    It seems like a ignorant take. It’s FOMO but instead of a missing out on a loot box or a silly cosmetic for a high price. It’s about missing out on the sale for a low price.

  • @[email protected]
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    82 days ago

    He’s right

    Some people have huge backlogs of games they will naver be able to play, some games alone will count for hundreds of hours of playtime.

    You can’t manage all them, and that platform encourages overspending