Federal immigration agents seeking to detain a Honduran landscaper chased him into a Southern California surgical center and quickly found themselves in a tense standoff as clinic staff demanded to see identification and a warrant.

In a video clip of the Tuesday altercation that has spread on social media, Ontario Advanced Surgery Center staff in blue scrubs are heard telling an armed U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent wearing a mask and bulletproof vest to let go of the man, who is crying and gasping for breath.

“Get your hands off of him. You don’t even have a warrant,” says one staff member, shielding the man from an immigration agent. “Let him go. You need to get out.”

    • @[email protected]
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      Everywhere. Even if they have warrants. Seriously. These are Nazis and should be treated as such. Do not let them kidnap people. Shame them until there are enough numbers on your side to fight back.

      If you don’t know the victims name. Learn it and keep repeating it. Yell “they are trying to kidnap <name>!”. It humanizes them further against a masked person that won’t identify themselves. It can help attract people around to help.

      And it has to be you. Everyone else is in “freeze” mode as they don’t know what’s going on. You do. You know. You gotta be the one to start resistance. But you won’t be alone long.

      Fuck these Nazis.

  • @[email protected]
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    without any identification how could they be sure he wasn’t Bob, the 11:00 appointement for testicules ablation?

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      Without identification how do we know those “ice agents” aren’t just idf goons in ski masks

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        Without identification how can bystanders not use deadly force to defend Innocents from kidnappers.

        • @[email protected]
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          Even with identification, ice is illegally kidnapping legal residents and legal asylum seekers and deporting them to countries they’ve never even been to

          • @[email protected]
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            3916 days ago

            Your saying it wrong

            “Your honor, masked thugs were attempting to kidnap the very scared man. They also refused to identify themselves or explain the situation”

      • Wytch
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        If they start shooting children in the head, that ought to confirm it

        • HellsBelleOP
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          What If I shoot them 8n the head? Is that enogh confirmation?

          I sure fucking hope so 'cause as a Canadian woman I’m gonna kick your ass beyond your wildest nightmares.

          Testicles on a necklace around my neck style buddy.

          Let’s see who wins dumbfuck.

          ;)

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    The news needs to stop giving these people in masks the benefit of the doubt.

    They are wearing masks and bulletproof vests. Anyone with 500 dollars can get those things. Stop calling them “Agents” when they don’t show identification. Start calling them “Armed unidentified men” because thats all those surgical staff members saw. When you have your agency on your uniform and you show a badge and ID, then you’re an agent, otherwise you’re just a random man with a gun and people will treat you accordingly.

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    Just pointing out that it is perfectly legal to open carry on private property. Requiring warrants and identification before allowing LE on premises is completely reasonable.

    • @[email protected]
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      I mean, just to be sure their names end up on the do-not-treat list, at least, as they would for anyone bringing violence into a hospital.

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        More or less, just can’t swing around and threaten. Otherwise it’d be a clusterfuck of legal bullshit that’d make the Eastern Roman Empire puke.

        You can also drive on private property without a license.

    • veroxii
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      According to the article the man was still taken and no-one knows where he is now. So their actions didn’t matter in the end.

      • @[email protected]
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        So their actions didn’t matter in the end.

        Point of order: Just because the end result was the same, doesn’t mean it didn’t matter.

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        It does matter. It matters to those of us that care. It matters to know what side people are on.

      • Bakkoda
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        No. This post was an action that doesn’t matter. What they did mattered.

        • fmstrat
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          I’d disagree. A post matters if you care about a toic or action, because more people see what is happening.

          Edit: Given my down votes, I’m guessing the above person meant “comment” and not “post”. And others are attributing it as such.

      • @[email protected]
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        We live in dynamic environments of complex interacting relationships, in case you hadn’t realised, so outcomes are not binary.