Still be really nice. It’s usually not too much effort, but is always appreciated, especially by those who need that niceness the most.
Doesn’t it cost a dollar to be nice now?
as if hating isn’t free too 😂(j/k)
But you do get rewarded!..with more work.
Coming in from a European perspective. During my first real job, I wanted to impress my supervisor. I was working some overtime (much less than I did as a student). My supervisor started passing by my office between 4pm and 5pm, letting me know it was time to go home, there was no need to overdo it. He was great… often telling me how I was exceeding expectations, and that was great as long as I was keeping a good work life balance.
Socialised protections are amazing… I still work overtime at times, but only when I feel like it (and I still never report it), I only taken on the amount of work I feel I can reasonably do. I strive for efficiency, not overburdening myself.
16, 21, 27, 32, and 37. I just keep forgetting for some reason.
- I was working 80-100 hour weeks and they refused to give me a raise or promote me.
30ish. Working for a company that wouldn’t let me move to their QA department because they “needed me more where I was” even though the manager of QA wanted me. The QA department didn’t have anyone that knew how my department worked so they had never done any QA checks on us. Would have been a pay bump and no after hours support rotation. I got another job and they asked what they could do to avoid my leaving, and I said if they had done it then I wouldn’t be leaving.
Narrator: and they didn’t learn they lesson…
Preteens. My mom worked her ass off and we lived in poverty.
The right people will recognize and appreciate your efforts. Of course there are those that will try to take advantage of you, so you need to either learn to say “no” or pace your work to appear busy when they ask for more.
If I continue to be nice and work hard, it’s because I hold myself to certain standards and won’t let ungrateful people worsen me.
Idk, doing all of that is how I went from a customer service agent to a senior IT engineer within 5 years.
You just have to know when to do that stuff and when to coast.
It’s doable still. To be fair it was never automatic. But I would like to recognize that it’s harder than it used to be.
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19 as an army conscript. Never volunteer, never be first, but also never be last. Never let your friends or colleagues do your work tho’, always lift your share. Always have your friends back, never trow blame aroud out loud, nd never trust those who are willing to stab others in the back. Lost honor and trust can never be fully regained.
I don’t expect rewards for being nice. I just want to be nice.
I’m bad at it though, but at least I’m trying my best.
When I was about ten. Washed my uncle’s Corvette without negotiating a price. I finished and the fucker didn’t pay because “I didn’t set a price before I started” or something to that effect. 10. Years. Old. I’m now almost 60 and still haven’t forgot that. Hopefully I haven’t turned into the ass he can be
People like that will do shit like that and then genuinely think “I thought them a valuable lesson.” Like… no, arsehole, you just traumatised a kid for absolutely no reason and taught them that hard work doesn’t pay.
“Fuck you I got my single free car wash”
Hope it was worth destroying his nephew’s trust in him for life
That uncle
I would throw mud on his car every time i saw him until he paid up.
Turns out “teaching someone a lesson” can go both ways.
I’m not nice for someone else, I’m nice for myself. I like being nice to people, it makes me feel good, and that’s why I do it.
I’ve got a parent who’s incredibly selfish, narcissistic and evil. After processing the years of trauma he’s inflicted, I’ve realized all I want to be is a nice and genuine person. I want people to experience warmth and happiness, cause a life without it is not worth it.
It’s nice to be nice!
I don’t even like being mean in roleplaying games lol
aren’t we all roleplaying in the stage that is real life?
Career wise? The two metrics that matter is how well liked you are and how valuable you are perceived to be. Actually working hard and being nice can contribute to being well liked at work, and sometimes can increase one’s own perceived value to the employer. But being nice and working hard aren’t going to be rewarded in themselves.
I’m nice to people because it’s the right thing to do. But it also has generally made me well liked my whole life. So I’ve never had trouble negotiating above-market pay for my jobs.
And I used to work hard when the situation called for it. Which isn’t all situations. Most of my jobs had clients or customers, so doing right by them was usually more important to me than doing something right for the employer actually paying my salary.
But I also advocated for myself, made sure that a significant chunk of the “working hard” I did was towards actually documenting my value, or getting recognized for current contributions, and building my reputation for having the right skillsets and problem solving ability for future assignments.
Plus luck always plays a big role. Similarly situated workers at a booming/growing company paying out a bunch of bonuses, versus a failing company choosing which workers to lay off, are going to see very different results even if they’re equally perceived. Much of my own success is simple luck of timing, right place/right time type stuff. If I were born 5 years earlier or 5 years later, or simply 500 miles away from my place of birth, I think I would’ve been struggling a lot more.
Perception is so huge. Pre-pandemic, just looking around I assumed I was layoff-proof, but I got the axe anyway.
Last I heard there are two engineers and one manager sharing my old duties. 🙃
So many people got hit by a layoff during the pandemic it bet it opened lots of eyes. Mine included.
I was recruited to an ISP for my knowledge but my metrics were against new customer activations. I specialized in trouble calls so customer satisfaction. I bet I was one of the first to cut when they needed to tighten the belt.
One thing thst are me feel better is half the managers got cut too.
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Half a year ago years old. I’m doing over 20 years in software engineering now. And apparently will have to repeat the lesson eventually.