cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/43241710

And everyone thought registries were only for sex offenders. If it works to punish them then why not on those who don’t want to work?

  • Eh-I
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    4415 hours ago

    And what about the employers that ghost applicants?

    • @[email protected]
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      915 hours ago

      To be fair if you own a 800 square foot condo that you bought 25-30 years ago for less than 100k in a city you most likely have a million dollars of wealth…

  • @[email protected]
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    22022 hours ago

    Does the bill create a registry of employers who come to interviews they schedule unprepared?

    Does the bill create a registry of employers who have jobs listed that they aren’t actively hiring for wasting applicants time?

    Does the bill create a requirement to post the hiring wage range so as not to waste everyone’s time?

    Unilateralism is fascism.

    • @[email protected]
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      1314 hours ago

      How about interviewers who ghost applicants? I have literally been sat in an office for an hour and a half, with nobody telling me what’s going on before I got told “oh that interviewer isn’t in today, I’m not sure why he scheduled you.”

      • @[email protected]
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        1114 hours ago

        I had one that “got pulled into a meeting”. Um, she had a meeting, with me!

        I was eventually offered the job two or three weeks later, which I declined. In that time I had accepted a position with a company that had their shit together. This one had the nerve to ask “When were you going to tell us?” after ghosting me for weeks! I said, “I just did.”.

    • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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      4521 hours ago

      Does the bill create a requirement to post the hiring wage range so as not to waste everyone’s time?

      Hey, we’re going to have that in the EU starting next year

    • @[email protected]
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      316 hours ago

      This would make a great website. Match job listings with this type of data. Get all job applicants on there and then set strict criteria for companies to post jobs on there. Enshitify the entire process for the companies and make them beg to have their ads shown.

      • @[email protected]
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        312 hours ago

        Isn’t this what Glassdoor started as? I remember it was a place to look up companies, find out how they tested employees, get interview tips, get salary ranges, etc. Then it got rid of anonymity and sold out and now it’s just propaganda for the companies that it initially meant to review

        • @[email protected]
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          19 hours ago

          the companies on glassdoor started to sue people and threatened the site, thats why its astroturfs and datamines you now in case they get sued again, they can give you thier info. its also the same time indeed removed thier forums, it was “damaging” thier reputations of preying on desperate applicants.

  • ileftreddit
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    8220 hours ago

    Jesus. Fuck Ohio. What about a registry of companies found guilty of wage theft?

    • @[email protected]
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      19 hours ago

      or companies that are doing ghost listings, and the ones that are pretending to list but actually had someone else they internally hired/nepotism and only put the list as a way to say we tried.

  • Prox
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    4119 hours ago

    Wouldn’t this be super exploitable? What’s to stop me from setting up a bot that auto-applies to tons of jobs on behalf of people I don’t like, thus making them “skip” whatever interviews come out of that?

    • Aaron
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      3017 hours ago

      Amazing how many Ohio state reps are looking for work right now, but not showing up to any interviews…

    • @[email protected]
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      1621 hours ago

      Well, that would just be impractical, right??? I mean what purpose could there be in a register of people with the actual weapons, constitutionally-protected or not, that are most often used to murder dozens of people in a single sitting?

      Next you’ll be wanting to use that registry to make sure that certifiable crazy people can’t get a modified semi-automatic rifle and possibly attempt to keep people safe. What use could that bring?!?

  • dogerwaul
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    5522 hours ago

    first of all, unemployment benefits should not be tied to you showing up to a job interview because usually it follows that if offered the job you must accept if you can. so, you basically have no agency and have to take whatever shit job offered. if i get a red flag or otherwise don’t to commit to an interview i do not owe the company or its workers my notice. i will make the effort if i choose to but me being a dick shouldn’t make me lose my benefits.

    anyway, fuck this registry.

  • @[email protected]
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    1719 hours ago

    Only very tangentially related to this

    I work in 911 dispatch. Part of our hiring process is after the initial interview and aptitude test, they have applicants come in to do a job shadow with us for an hour or two. Basically just sit with us while we’re answering and dispatching calls, see what the work we do is actually like, gives them a chance ask us questions, and we can kind of feel them out to see if they’d be a good fit.

    And a shocking amount of people make it to that stage and then don’t show up for their job shadow.

    I’m admittedly biased, since I work here, but I feel like even if I didn’t actually have any interest in the job, that would be an interesting peek behind the curtain that I’d still want to see regardless.

    • @[email protected]
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      9 hours ago

      possible they found another job, which happens all the time, and some Do cherry pick, maybe i choose this job, but i will just wait for the other jobs interview or something else comes up. or they chose and apply to this job as a backup until one comes up with a better offer.

      • @[email protected]
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        18 hours ago

        You must be 15 and never had a job if you don’t understand that shadowing is not working for free.

      • @[email protected]
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        715 hours ago

        No more than for any other sort of job interview. They’re not answering calls, they’re sitting there listening.

        And honestly I thought it was a great experience when I got hired, it gave me a real inside look to what the workplace culture was before I started here, and a chance to talk to and ask questions to people who are actually doing the job I was applying for instead of some HR/supervisor/deputy director type.

        And since we obviously work 24/7/365 we can pretty much make any time work for these applicants, so they don’t need to take off from work or anything to come in and do it. We get a lot of them on nights and weekends.

        It’s also pretty necessary to make sure people can handle it. It can get really intense at times, and seeing an incident unfold in real time is a very different experience than listening to a recording of a call after the fact. Class space to train new dispatchers is limited, and almost every dispatch center is constantly short-staffed, so we really need to make our hires count, and we lose plenty enough throughout the training process as it is, we don’t want to spend a couple months training someone only to get them out on the floor to realize that they can’t emotionally handle listening to, let alone actually handling 911 calls.

      • @[email protected]
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        616 hours ago

        Did you miss the part where they were not answering any calls or doing any hands on work? The shadow is for the applicant to observe and see if they still want the job.

        911 dispatch is not flipping burgers, peoples lives are at stake. They need to be on their toes and not have cold feet if they realize they can’t handle the stress or are in way over their heads.

        • @[email protected]
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          1116 hours ago

          Still work, and no one should do it for free. I worked at a lot call centers and even had an ex who did 911 calls. You don’t work for free. To easy to exploit. Also heard they don’t pay worth a shit compared to the trauma you experience working there. Probably why they don’t show up. Its pays shit and even just watching is work. And don’t try make it out as if it’s easier then other type of work.

        • @[email protected]
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          815 hours ago

          You’re still asking them to be present in a job environment. I get why you do that, but i also see why it would nark people. It’s taking unpaid time for preparation for a job they may not even get.

          • @[email protected]
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            715 hours ago

            Do you expect people to get paid for showing up to a job interview? Because that’s, in essence, what it is- a second round of interviews, albeit a pretty informal one.

            And since we’re obviously a 24/7 operation, there’s a lot of flexibility on when we can schedule it, not like most interviews where you probably have to take time off of work for it, we do a lot of them on weekends and evenings.

            It’s also a really good chance to see what the workplace culture and actual day-to-day reality of the job is like and to talk to people who are actually doing the job instead of just taking some suit from HR’s word for it.

            • @[email protected]
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              313 hours ago

              If it’s two hours long, yes! I expect to get paid for that time. Absolutely.

              I have never shadowed at a new job and had it be unpaid.

              • @[email protected]
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                111 hours ago

                new job

                For a new job, sure, you should be getting paid. This is part of the hiring process, you don’t have the job yet.

                I’ve known a lot of people who’ve gotten jobs that have had a half dozen or so rounds of interviews, how many hours does that add up to? Every other interview I’ve ever done was at least 30-45 minutes, so after 3 rounds or so of interviews at another job you’ve pretty much broken even on that.

                And with other jobs that’s often spread over multiple days or weeks that you’d probably need to take time off from your current job for. I’d gladly take this hour or two on a night or weekend over that.

          • @[email protected]
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            113 hours ago

            If they just called it an interview would you still expect to get paid? 1 to 2 hours is pretty much the min for interviews in my field. But maybe that is very long in yours?

    • @[email protected]
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      113 hours ago

      You should test calling it an interview and not giving details. See if it changes the ghosting percent. My guess is that for most people, a job at 911 is a last resort. Many have heard how tough it is emotionally. So they probably got another offer by then and just took it.

      • @[email protected]
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        112 hours ago

        A lot of things vary from one agency to another, but where I work I don’t think most people would consider this a last resort job. Most of us are here either because this is what we want to do or because it’s a good career builder towards other public safety/law enforcement type jobs.

        For my part, if I have to work, I think this is about as good as it gets for me. I like the hours, the pay isn’t amazing but it’s livable, benefits are solid, and it’s interesting and satisfying work.

        It’s also not the quickest hiring process since they usually wait until they have a few people to run a training class, it’s been a few years now but I believe I did my aptitude test and interview in mid August (same day because they were doing a hiring event, sometimes they have to get scheduled separately) did my job shadow a week or two later with another short interview, got my conditional offer around mid September, had to do a drug, hearing, and vision test and a psych eval, and class started in about mid-late October, so about 2 months start to finish.

        I have a friend who tested at the same time as me and got picked up for the next class they ran, so it was a couple extra months for him.

        And some other agencies have extra steps in the process. More rounds of interviews, really in-depth background checks with interviews with the sheriff and a polygraph test and such (thankfully the agency I work for isn’t like that since polygraphs are bullshit)

        No not ideal for someone who really needs a job ASAP.

  • @[email protected]
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    817 hours ago

    Funny kind of law to make when the US jobs report for the last month is less than that of Canada’s jobs report by ~10,000 jobs.