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This just struck a nerve…
cries
Honestly, since the introduction of ‘tables’, pivot tables, Power Pivot and Power Query, Excel is way more viable to be used as a database. Tables in particular mean that formulas fill down and the range automically resizes when records are added.
Iirc tables are actually treated similar to databases on the backend.
My old ass crying in MS Access
one of our partners we have to integrate with at work sends us reports in ms access format. it’s not fun, especially when everything is running in lambda and there doesn’t seem to be any good libraries for reading ms access files that would easily run in lambda.
Anyone else use Microsoft Access…30 years ago?
How about last week?
Why yes this comic made me think of our users, why do you ask?
Fun fact: most of the electronic voting machines in the 2000 presidential election used Access to store vote counts. Access, the “database” with a user-editable audit table.
At least it had an audit table.
ADO or DAO?
Kind of related question: Is it okay for me to use JSON as a small DB? I just store basic blog page data there.
If it works then it works.
yep, though IO might bottleneck you at some point, and then you can happily switch to mongoDB
then you can happily switch to mongoDB
A few circumstances to consider…
If it’s just your own little tool and you don’t intend to share it with others: do whatever you want. SQL or NoSQL or JSON, it doesn’t matter. Use your own judgement.
In my experience tho most homegrown JSON-based “databases” tend to load all data into the memory, simply because they are very simplistic (serialize everything into JSON and write to disk, deserialize everything into a struct). If your dataset is too big for that, just go straight for a full-fledged database.
I mean it will work, but for a blog I’d store the pages in markdown files, to make it easier to edit. For context, look into how Hugo works
I thought of that as well. I might switch to that. It will make the organization better anyways.
TinyDB literally does this. in general its more of does this work for my use case and am i aware of its limitations.
Isn’t the Genie usually depicted as malicious, or at least mischievous? I would expect the Genie to grant the wish, knowing what a shitshow it would be.
Even Genie have standards.
Last panel is wrong. Genie would just grant him an MBA from a top tier school
I learned this in my first statics class, and I have a BS in business administration.
Statics? They teaching yall physics?
Not spelling though… they skipped right past that.
They gave you some bs alright.
I once looked through a textbook from my friend’s MBA course. The first thing I noticed was in a highlighted box in the chapter on business negotiating: “Your skill at negotiating will affect the outcome of the negotiations.”
These are the people that make 10X what I make.
This is why I refuse to get an MBA. I already know my pants go on my legs. Thanks.
taking notes On the legs, you say? Interesting…🤔
Are you sure that wasn’t the introduction to the Speech skill in Skyrim?
In Czech we say MBA means Mladý, Blbý, Arogantní - Young, Dumb, Arrogant.
I have an MBA and I can assure you, most are not young.
Depends. It’s a business here and there are lots of young people with MBAs and not enough experience to contextualise the things learned within the masters. I mean, some are even doing it post grad.
From my past experience with these types of people, I have a very low opinion on young people with MBAs. Business degree holders who want a shortcut to the top.
My comment was mostly a self deprecating joke, denying the only neutral part of the statement. But you’re right, wide range of ages in any business program.
Whoops. My bad!
It would be funnier if the genie says “there are two rules”
“I have to make a brochure for the printing shop and I’d like to compose it in Excel”
“There are actually five rules…”
“In Powerpoint?”
“Make that six.”
Except PowerPoint is actually quite nice to make quick, easy and good looking visualizations and brochures without having to deal with Word
Well, Word isn’t really a good choice either.
It’s the most approachable for most people. For real graphics design more professional tools are available
like Paint
Paint?
matplotlib
Use Libreoffice Draw
I can personally attest to entire universities advocating for student use of powerpoint for all sorts of printshop work to include thesis and capstone presentation posters for conferences :)
For people who don’t want to spend time learning yet another single-purpose application, it works quite well
It can handle more than a million rows so why not?
In my experience it doesn’t work well when you have more than a couple people editing the file. My company had a group of ten modifying the same file in live time; it led to huge desync problems.
I live in Excel hell and even that made me shudder. Just work on separate files and have a master spreadsheet append everything with power query.
I made a similar reply higher up and I fucking hate that that’s a solution but it legitimately would work in this use case. I frequently deal with 1M+ row data sets and our API can only export like 20k rows at a time so I have a script make the pulls into a folder and I just PQ to append the whole fucking folder into one data set. You don’t even have to load the table at that point, you can pull as-is from the data model to BI or make a pivot or whatever else you’re trying to do with that much data.
Parent company doesn’t want ANYONE to have direct read access to the database - only the scant few heavily formatted reports the user-facing software will allow. Data analysis still needs to get done though, so…
Yeah. PQ -> Data Model saves my ass and my co-workers think I’m a wizard.
That, and learning how to quietly exploit minor vulnerabilities in the software to get raw tables I “shouldn’t” have and telling not one soul has been a winning combo!
A million rows sounds like a lot until you need more than that
Database2.xlsx
Database2_not_locked(1).xlsx
Don’t be gross, use CSV files
I mean it’s a simple file format so it’ll perform better because it doesn’t have to decode any complex formats or protocols.
Big O? Never heard of it!
CSV is great but the byte loss on numbers is sometimes gruesome.
My 5th rule would be “no ‘fix my IT problem without me telling you what the error message says’”. Because fuck that
Error 0x2e8da08150469
May I introduce you: webxcel
What the fuck. Thanks for sharing!
This is basically what I run for a living and it’s definitely not glamorous.
I work as a network tech for a globally spanning ISP specializing in fiber services, handling major maintenances that are service effecting for business and government customers (SLAs are in effect). These maintenances are planned and tracked through various excel sheets - housed either in a shared network drive (so yeah, we may run into issues where multiple people are trying to edit the same doc at once), or excel tables in a SharePoint.
Prior to the merger of companies I recently went through, we had actual database systems to track this stuff that worked just fine. And now we’re relying on the same shit a grad student would use to track their doctorate progress. It’ll work until it doesn’t. Looking forward to the shit-show if it gets me overtime.
Employers get what they demand, what they deserve. Anyway excel works as a database until around 1 million entries…
Once you get to a million just start a new one and create a “master” spreadsheet that uses power query to append them all. Problem solved ;)
Don’t tell anyone but I actually do this.
I feel you. Working in healthcare, ms office is the only thing consistently installed site wide I can take advantage of to run a db.
Couldn’t you use Access instead of Excel or is that not possible for your use case?
Unfortunately IT blocked Access installs because some staff were using it for mission critical processes, and upon leaving IT were required to maintain them. They felt excel was less likely to lead to scenarios like this.
Little did they know excel projects are probably worse to maintain.
Database? Good.
I use it to connect to another Excel “database” and generate a PDF form to print. No other way around unfortunately.
Should’ve been the version saying:
Geanie: “It is done”
Person: “But… nothing changed”
G: “Correct”
