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We’ve done it, we got rid of another soulless right wing politician!
Peter Dutton first made his party lose this election and now also lost his own seat much like Pierre Pullover
We’ve still got a government that green-lit new coal power plants in it’s last term, screwed over the Aboriginal community with a poorly run referendum, and still doesn’t give a shit about climate change, but baby steps hey.
Nobody wants to let Dutton be another Trump
Trump is dismantling the US government so his billionaire friends can buy it. He’s not building a global populist movement, he’s siezed power and he’s using it for petty, selfish ends. The whole world can see it plainly
The rise of fascism in the US may have heralded worldwide rises in conservativism for a time, but now that Trump has absolute power, he’s not bothering to hide his intentions. It’s swung back the other way, now the US is making the world less fascist
Fascism’s win condition is always its own destruction. It’s a death cult. It can’t win worldwide because it promotes selfish leaders who sabotage the movement for personal enrichment
It’s gonna be okay, everyone
They’re not going to stop trying just because they lost an election. Don’t become complacent. Victory has not yet been accomplished, defeat has been postponed.
Fascism is an existential threat to all democratic countries.
It’s important to point out that they didn’t just “lose” an election, and it wasn’t only because of Trump.
They’ve been gutted. So many senior party members lost their seats they can’t figure out who’s the next party leader.
Yup, this will be what triggers them to go all in on nazism, same thing happened to America’s Republicans.
I was just listening to something that said the liberal seat losses were predominantly the moderates. The hard-line conservatives fared better, so you might be right.
I’m not steeped in Australian politics like I am in US politics, please correct me if I am wrong, but there are some things I’ve heard (though they may be out of date) that work in the left/center’s favor more than the right, particularly that young Australian men do not seem to be pulling hard right like their US counterparts. Also, it is my understanding that “minor” political parties are more popular and feasible than in the US. Probably the biggest thing working against radicalization is ranked choice voting, it probably splits right more than the left. However, your right wing parties risk losing their identity if they move left and will have to be very competitive as moderates, where they could probably secure a much more ideologically “pure,” resilient, and loyal base by going further right.
I think this is true. Of course there are some who are, but there are fewer than in the US. There is much less “machismo” in Australian culture, there’s still masculinity but it’s focused on sport, cars, outdoor stuff like fishing and camping. It’s much less concerned with power, control, or force.
Yes, and yes it’s because of ranked choice voting. In the recent election there were a lot of seats where Labor (center left) and Liberal (center right) received similar numbers of votes, but then a third candidate from the greens (further left) had an almost equal number of the primary vote. When those voters second preferences are counted enough of them voted center left to push them over the line.
This happens with independent candidates also, who have put on a very impressive show in the most recent election. I’m a bit vague on this part but candidates who won a significant number of votes this time round will receive financial support from the Australian Electoral Commission for their campaign next time.
Yeah so our Liberal (center right) party has been whingeing a lot about this. They’re saying they have the further right parties stealing votes from them, and Labor on the center right.
This is exactly the same for Labor (center left) because they have Liberal on their right and the Greens on their left.
That’s politics.
A phrase that’s been coming up a lot in the last 24 hours is that the Liberal party should return to their roots of being “fiscally dry”. That is their identity. Lower taxes, fewer services, small government. They got lost in the weeds trying to get elected on a Trump platform which thankfully the Australian people have rejected.
Thank you so much for your time! Being an American there is a real dearth of information about the politics of other countries, at least in terms of what is “fed” to me via social media and legacy news.
I really wish my country could have learned some lessons from your guys’ election system, it seems much better tuned in terms of producing democratic results and avoiding polarization.
The Australian Liberal party (note, they’re the Conservative Party) has taken an anti-climate change to the Australian electorate for a decade. Over time they lost power, they lost seats to independents who are aligned to Liberal party except on climate change, and now they’ve been reduced to a puddle due in part to their anti-climate agenda. There’s practically zero chance that the Liberal Party will ever campaign on an anti-Climate Change platform (despite what their corporate overlords want). Which means we may finally have clean air for a debate on policy and politics that’s not being hijacked by bullshit fossil fuel arguments.
This is progress, for sure.
Not sure. I can see them go full Trump and get aligned with our extreme right wing parties and billionaires and make their own truth social and just double down hard calling it a hoax. All the flooding is just weather engineering with chemtrails, didn’t you know?
That seems unlikely based on last night’s outcome.
Trumpism has a stink on it.
Dutton was trotting out some Trump rhetoric in the last 2 weeks and Australian voters have issued an emphatic, resounding rejection.
I expect a reformed liberal party will go back to their roots of fiscal and social conservatism, but do anything to avoid the culture war.
I hope Labour learns from this and starts leaning hard into the culture war. More trans rights please!
I’m not sure that’s the right message to take away from what’s happened.
Rejecting Dutton because he was stoking the culture war from the conservative end, does not mean that the electorate will embrace a leader who stokes the culture war from the progressive end.
For example, the voice to parliament was part of the culture war, and it failed spectacularly for Labor. They were lucky to recover really.
That’s not to say the electorate doesn’t want trans rights, but voters do want someone who’s going to address the bread and butter problems they’re facing.
Nah mate, common myth. The Greens had a way better plan for the bread and butter problems - create a government department for building housing, end negative gearing, cap rent increases, put dental in medicare, build free GP clinics, 50c transport fares, wipe all student debt, 800$ back to school payment, free school lunches, make supermarket price gouging illegal, increase wages.
What voters want, is something comfortable and familiar that makes them feel like they’re opposing Trump, without having to actually think or learn anything. They want the status quo.
Nonsense. Every party thinks they had “a way better plan”. Voters selected the plan they thought was the best.
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