• Of the Air (cele/celes)
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      12 days ago

      It’s sexism and patriarchy. Because they aren’t thought of as being for milk, and straight men aren’t usually attracted to them (and thus can control themselves (to be clear we’re being sarcastic here, men should not ban our boobs for their sexual attraction and they should be able to control themselves by not seeing us as objects)) then it’s fine.

      But really breasts and the nipples on them aren’t inherently sexual and it’s tiring men think/act as if they are.

      • TheRealKuni
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        212 days ago

        But really breasts and the nipples on them aren’t inherently sexual and it’s tiring men think/act as if they are.

        Inherently, no, but they are secondary sexual characteristics that our species has selected for long enough that the lizard brain instincts find them sexually appealing.

        The problem isn’t that men think they’re sexual or find them a turn on. The problem is men not knowing how to control themselves.

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          112 days ago

          Right because they don’t get taught that’s a thing they have to or should do. Because so much of the media and societal values/views teaches them that we’re objects for their consumption, nothing more.

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            111 days ago

            That’s a tough one. The drive to mate is very strong. It was critical to the sucsess of the species. Controlling thoughts in that direction is near impossible. So how do you balance that in environments where focus is important. I honestly don’t have any idea for that.

            If you are only talking about controllin actions, then I am on board with you. Though men are taught to do that to some extent. They generally don’t just grab women by the hair and drag them to thier man cave to rape them. Well generally. It’s just they aren’t taught that the line should be way back around the point ofvnot expressing any of thier thoughts without consent. Which you correctly point out is tough when media constantly shows them that the agressive male gets laid.

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                09 days ago

                I understand. It is very difficult for the majority of people to understand how other peoples brains work when it is different than theirs. For example, people without mental disabilities usually don’t understand why people with them can’t just use willpower to overcome the disability.

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                    19 days ago

                    Well ok. Since your last two comments were so devoid of detail that they could have been added to litterally any thread on reddit… I guess you aren’t interested in any ideas that don’t match your current opinion.

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      212 days ago

      Although I was lightly bullied for my perky pokies as a young man, making me self-conscious about them at a level I have a hard time suppressing or ignoring.