Morgan Gardner, who is seven months pregnant, said she felt betrayed after her Iranian spouse was targeted amid ongoing tension between the U.S. and Iran.
“Everyone feels like a fool and regrets the decision. I personally didn’t vote in the last election, and neither did my parents. At this point, I believe there are bad people on the left and the right,” Gardner said.
Jesus fucking Christ still a fucking centrist shitting on the “left” even as the State kidnapped your fucking husband.
Despite this, Free Ribvar Karimi and free all people kidnapped by ICE. He sucks but he doesn’t deserve this—because no one deserves this!
I really wanna say you’re wrong and I really can’t. All I can ask is that you please not lump us all together into one homogeneous group. There are quite a few of us who are actually sane.
But that didn’t stop ALL the german being called nazi after WWII and all being appalled by their (in)action and the pain their nation did to others.
I had a German colleague apologizing to me for his ancestors actions (who killed some family members at my grandparents generation). None of us were born when that happened but he wanted to say it as he was ashamed by his grandparents (in)actions. I was sad for him because he didn’t do anything wrong but he was taking the weight of his nation history personally.
Do you want to do that or - more probably - do you want your children to do that later? They will ask for forgiveness to the descendants of the people impacted today saying: “I’m sorry that my parents didn’t do anything to stop that”
Because your ICE gestapo-like state organization is doing appalling actions TODAY in plain sight. And you - as Americans - will be remembered as people who lets this happen.
I’m sure of that and i’m sad to see good people aware but unable to change the direction their nation takes. Must be horrible, infuriating.
I’m worried too about the next presidential election in my country. Hope we will be able to reject fascism again in the next election cycle. Something we have to do nearly all the time since I’m able to vote.
They’re about to pass a bill that will absolutely gut funding and incentives for renewable energy, resulting in catastrophic damage to our industrial base, our economy, and the loss of like 150,000 construction and industry jobs. It is extremely horrible and infuriating!
Reminder that Fox News was created in the wake of Watergate specifically because media coverage of the scandal went from non-existent to shifting public opinion against it in weeks. It was created to be a dedicated Republican party propaganda platform to prevent that from ever happening again.
Nixon aides wanted a pro-administration network, and some of them were eventually instrumental in getting Fox News going, but it took over 20 years between Watergate and the launch of FNC.
For sure, but Watergate was specifically the spark that inspired them.
The comment you replied to included the caveat “eventually”, but the whitewater scandal was almost the opposite, as it was largely the right wing looking for scandals to promote on places like Fox News.
When you allow your state to become a rightwing nightmare that destroys lives of those within and outside of your country, don’t be surprised when you are remembered as the people who allowed this to happen.
No, he DOES deserves this for providing aid and comfort to a person so terrible they support Trump. Leopards, faces, and wow looks like this is posted in the spot on right place.
No he doesn’t because NO ONE deserves to be deported by ICE. We can quibble later about what constitutes justice for people who enable Trump supporters, and I’m not going to police your feelings about him or people like him…I know what community I’m posting in…but supporting his deportation is not productive for the people Mr. Karimi and his wife hurt with their rhetoric and complicity! Because then, all the government and media have to do to manufacture your consent for the deportations is smear the deportees’ characters.
If you think he deserves social ostracisation or some other consequence then sure, fine, but deportation by the American Gestapo? Even if you think he deserves the worst, we don’t deserve the consequences of yet another ICE deportation of one of our neighbors.
Everything the State does is imposed on us by the capitalist class. So even if you would support his neighbors running him out of town…this is completely different! This is an imposition on the community that he’s no longer allowed to be a part of it. And while today it happened to a Trump supporter, it happens just as often to upstanding or even beloved people in the community. We shouldn’t be tolerant of any interference of the capitalist class in our affairs, even when it hurts someone I personally don’t like.
Mr. Karimi is a xenophobic ass hat who I’m certain would never fight for one of us, but he’s still one of our neighbors.
I don’t blame her I absolutely don’t give a fuck about someone who couldn’t bother to vote or her chump ass husband who literally voted for this to happen to other people.
She doesn’t want to burn the bridge, what if someone can get him out.
Yeah so she shouldn’t be burning bridges with the left. Right? Because the right isn’t gonna help her.
No need to blame her on this.
I didn’t? The US government is 100% responsible for kidnapping her husband, and the capitalists are 1000% responsible for putting the US government on this trajectory. But I’m allowed to express my frustration at her rhetoric.
Jesus fucking Christ still a fucking centrist shitting on the “left” even as the State kidnapped your fucking husband.
Despite this, Free Ribvar Karimi and free all people kidnapped by ICE. He sucks but he doesn’t deserve this—because no one deserves this!
Americans are the most brainwashed people on the planet. The right wing state can literally disappear your family and you still shit talk the left.
I really wanna say you’re wrong and I really can’t. All I can ask is that you please not lump us all together into one homogeneous group. There are quite a few of us who are actually sane.
We know that.
But that didn’t stop ALL the german being called nazi after WWII and all being appalled by their (in)action and the pain their nation did to others.
I had a German colleague apologizing to me for his ancestors actions (who killed some family members at my grandparents generation). None of us were born when that happened but he wanted to say it as he was ashamed by his grandparents (in)actions. I was sad for him because he didn’t do anything wrong but he was taking the weight of his nation history personally.
Do you want to do that or - more probably - do you want your children to do that later? They will ask for forgiveness to the descendants of the people impacted today saying: “I’m sorry that my parents didn’t do anything to stop that”
Because your ICE gestapo-like state organization is doing appalling actions TODAY in plain sight. And you - as Americans - will be remembered as people who lets this happen.
Yep. That already happened. So we know.
We know that. I’ve been apologizing constantly on Lemmy. I guess I was thinking more on an individual basis 🤷♂️.
Also, I’m very very sorry for all this.
I’m sure of that and i’m sad to see good people aware but unable to change the direction their nation takes. Must be horrible, infuriating.
I’m worried too about the next presidential election in my country. Hope we will be able to reject fascism again in the next election cycle. Something we have to do nearly all the time since I’m able to vote.
They’re about to pass a bill that will absolutely gut funding and incentives for renewable energy, resulting in catastrophic damage to our industrial base, our economy, and the loss of like 150,000 construction and industry jobs. It is extremely horrible and infuriating!
Extremely well put.
Don’t worry, we don’t have to. ICE wilk lump you all together.
Reminder that Fox News was created in the wake of Watergate specifically because media coverage of the scandal went from non-existent to shifting public opinion against it in weeks. It was created to be a dedicated Republican party propaganda platform to prevent that from ever happening again.
Nixon aides wanted a pro-administration network, and some of them were eventually instrumental in getting Fox News going, but it took over 20 years between Watergate and the launch of FNC.
Yeah, I think they mean Whitewater, the fake scandal fishing expedition that led to the Lewinsky thing…
No they meant watergate, Roger Ailes, the founding CEO of Fox News, was Nixon’s media guy during watergate.
Yes, but he didn’t create Faux News right after that. It launched in the 90s
For sure, but Watergate was specifically the spark that inspired them.
The comment you replied to included the caveat “eventually”, but the whitewater scandal was almost the opposite, as it was largely the right wing looking for scandals to promote on places like Fox News.
It worked too well.
Paint with your broad brush.
When you allow your state to become a rightwing nightmare that destroys lives of those within and outside of your country, don’t be surprised when you are remembered as the people who allowed this to happen.
Bitch, Obama didn’t kidnap your husband. AOC didn’t kidnap your husband. Bernie didn’t kidnap your husband. Mamdani didn’t kidnap your husband. Trump did.
That’s some revisionist nonsense.
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/obama-record-deportations-deporter-chief-or-not
Back in the day would people have posted a link in here if an Obama supporting immgrants husband had been deported ?
Obama did kidnap many husband however.
https://www.aclu.org/news/smart-justice/president-obama-wants-continue-imprisoning-immigrant-families
Books are where it’s at!
Yeah me too. Fuck the Dems.
No, he DOES deserves this for providing aid and comfort to a person so terrible they support Trump. Leopards, faces, and wow looks like this is posted in the spot on right place.
can we settle on nobody deserves this, but given it’s happening he’s among the most deserving?
I can live with that.
No he doesn’t because NO ONE deserves to be deported by ICE. We can quibble later about what constitutes justice for people who enable Trump supporters, and I’m not going to police your feelings about him or people like him…I know what community I’m posting in…but supporting his deportation is not productive for the people Mr. Karimi and his wife hurt with their rhetoric and complicity! Because then, all the government and media have to do to manufacture your consent for the deportations is smear the deportees’ characters.
If you think he deserves social ostracisation or some other consequence then sure, fine, but deportation by the American Gestapo? Even if you think he deserves the worst, we don’t deserve the consequences of yet another ICE deportation of one of our neighbors.
Everything the State does is imposed on us by the capitalist class. So even if you would support his neighbors running him out of town…this is completely different! This is an imposition on the community that he’s no longer allowed to be a part of it. And while today it happened to a Trump supporter, it happens just as often to upstanding or even beloved people in the community. We shouldn’t be tolerant of any interference of the capitalist class in our affairs, even when it hurts someone I personally don’t like.
Mr. Karimi is a xenophobic ass hat who I’m certain would never fight for one of us, but he’s still one of our neighbors.
No need to blame her on this. She doesn’t want to burn the bridge, what if someone can get him out.
I don’t blame her I absolutely don’t give a fuck about someone who couldn’t bother to vote or her chump ass husband who literally voted for this to happen to other people.
Yeah so she shouldn’t be burning bridges with the left. Right? Because the right isn’t gonna help her.
I didn’t? The US government is 100% responsible for kidnapping her husband, and the capitalists are 1000% responsible for putting the US government on this trajectory. But I’m allowed to express my frustration at her rhetoric.