• Elvith Ma'for
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    126 days ago

    Then there’s still two possibilities:

    1. He was murdered to cover up $thing (innocent or not)
    2. All/most of it was true and he wanted an “easy escape”

    Because of 1. I’m not sure if this would stop any arguments, though.

      • @[email protected]
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        136 days ago

        There are too many inconsistencies and coincidental ‘mistakes’ in the suicide story.
        As if the guy who had dirt on a huge part of the rich and powerful of the world, dirt that could absolutely destroy them couldn’t get murdered.
        Witnesses have been murdered for a lot less.
        But no, it’s all a conspiracy theory.

        • @[email protected]
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          25 days ago

          There are too many inconsistencies and coincidental ‘mistakes’ in the suicide story.

          This is not evidence. It’s suspicion. If Epstein was murdered, find some reason to believe that. Otherwise it’s just nonsense conspiracy, no different than Q.

          And what inconsistencies are you referring to exactly? The fact that a dude who’s life was over decided to kill himself? Or maybe it’s the complete lack of regard, empathy, and competence of jail staff that you just can’t believe exists in America?

          • @[email protected]
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            14 days ago

            If Epstein was murdered, find some reason to believe that.

            Um. The entire client list?

            And what inconsistencies are you referring to exactly?

            You are sealioning.

          • @[email protected]
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            15 days ago

            LOL you want to hear about the inconsistencies while you say it’s “nonsense conspiracy”? fuck that.
            Looks like you don’t know anything or the details about it yet feel the need to voice an opinion.
            Sure it’s all coincidence and mistakes, and he is the first of all prisoners to have killed himself in the 8 yaers that facility existed.
            Wanna buy an island? It’s the one where nothing happened.

            • @[email protected]
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              25 days ago

              What makes more sense? A vast conspiracy to murder a single man in a jail cell, or that single man lying to a psychologist to get pulled from suicide watch, then meeting his lawyer to change his will to fuck over his victims, then killing himself with his recently returned blankets while the guards slept the night away.

              Guards who had been sleeping through their shifts for at least a month, likely longer.

              Keep in mind that Epstein was in prison for his own sex crimes. Epstein himself, raped children.

              I feel that tends to get lost in the whole “child pimp to the powerful”.

              Epstein had already been attacked by other inmates because Epstein was a pedo in a jail house.

              Now, did people benefit from Epstein’s death? You bet your ass. I just don’t think that anyone is competent enough to pull off a murder for pay without fucking it up. Basically I’m anti-holiwood on this one. Because movies and TV are the only places that shit works.

              • @[email protected]
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                14 days ago

                " lying to a psychologist to get pulled from suicide watch"
                He was still on ‘heightened watch’.
                And OC the guards made many mistakes, and a little unlucky moving other inmates around and plenty more to make it all possible by mistake.
                The only suicide in the 8 years this facility exists.
                But sure, witnesses or whistleblowers never get killed.
                It’s all a ‘vast conspiracy’, right.

                • @[email protected]
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                  14 days ago

                  Here’s the story of an actual assassination.

                  In 2017, a journalist named Daphne Caruana Galizia was working on the Panama Papers, and the connection to Maltese businessmen. This angered Yorgen Fenech, a rich asshole who was all over the Panama Papers, so he hired a man named Melvin Theuma to hire Brothers Alfred Degiorgio and George Degiorgio along with their friend Vince Muscat to plant the bomb. They got the bomb from Robert Agius and Jamie Vella.

                  Notice how I’m actually naming names, because that’s how this shit works in reality.

                  Epstein’s guards didn’t just “make some mistakes” they were fucking sleeping or playing cell phone games all night and then lying about doing their rounds. This had been going on for at least a month, likely longer. They were certainly not checking in on Epstein every 15 minutes as required by protocol, because again, they were sleeping and lying about it.

                  And Yes, Epstein had his blankets back, the very blankets he used to kill himself. Because he was a pedo in prison, facing a life of prison rape and constant beatings for being a pedo in prison.

                  I have no doubt that a bunch of very powerful people were shitting themselves over it all, until Epstein did them the favor of killing himself, for purely selfish reasons that just so happened to help those rich assholes.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    14 days ago

                    “Notice how I’m actually naming names”
                    LOL wh TF cares about something totally off-topic

                    “Epstein’s guards didn’t just “make some mistakes” they were fucking sleeping or playing cell phone games all night and then lying about doing their rounds. This had been going on for at least a month, likely longer. They were certainly not checking in on Epstein every 15 minutes as required by protocol, because again, they were sleeping and lying about it.”
                    OC you believe that too.
                    Anyway, how bout that land I’m going to sell you? You interested smart guy?

      • @[email protected]
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        35 days ago

        Or maybe he didn’t kill himself. That video, that doesn’t even show his cell door, is pointless. It’s the wrong area of the prison! And it’s missing a minute of time. You can be sure the guards and prisoners knew of that 11:59-midnight safety window.

        We don’t need a big conspiracy theory here. All it takes is one rich person brining one or two guards. A small conspiracy, that gives you murder.

    • Microw
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      116 days ago

      There has been evidence against him since the early 2000s that he abused girls and young women. He wiggled his way out of a case in 2008, but he knew it was over this time. It is absolutely thinkable that he killed himself in order to not have to actually go to prison.

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        14 days ago

        In 2008 he was protected by his influential clients. Second time around he was enough of a liability they instead got the evidence suppressed and made sure he couldn’t make good on his blackmail threat.

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        95 days ago

        And notably, the AG that let him off with a wrist slap plea deal was appointed by the current president to be Secretary of Labor.