This is the first I’ve heard of the neoliberals being driven out of the DNC and frankly I find it a bit hard to believe. Outside of the win in NY I haven’t heard of any other significant shakeups in the party, and frankly the number of politicians in the DNC you’d need to oust to dislodge the neoliberals makes me think I’d have heard something.
The DNC is definitively a neoliberal party. Obama was one of the most neoliberal presidents we have ever had, as far as social attitudes go. He massively carried water for the whole “if I made it, anyone can” and “black people suffer from a culture of poverty” type of nonsense, both of which serve an agenda that is against providing social safety nets and actually helping people improve their lives. Neoliberalism is all about blaming individuals for the failures of government as a means to avoid bolstering social services
“Neoliberals have been run out of the DNC” is absolutely nonsense. Neoliberals running the DNC is 99.9% of the problem with the DNC today. Its the reason why true progressive politics fail so often
Lol dude. If you think my perspective is not sound and that Obama isnt a classic neoliberal politician then you need to study his presidency yourself. The only one here confused about what actually went down is you.
Literally the only thing remotely distant from neoliberalism that Obama ever accomplished was Obamacare, and even then that was just a half-assed version of actual progressive policy like single payer healthcare or medicare for all. And the reasoning behind why we never got real progressive policy when they pushed Obamacare is because the DNC is a neoliberal party in sheeps clothing. Just as Obama was. Read a thing or two before you say dumb shit online. The democrats had full control of the government, they could have revolutionized our country just as magats are doing now, instead they barely accomplished anything. They didnt because theyre a bunch of neoliberal fuckers. Its factual, not subjective
If I wanted campist apologia from genocide deniers, I could read Jacobin rag on my own time. I’ll pass on someone trying to use it as a replacement for having thoughts of their own. I note that you didn’t actually respond to what I actually objected to,
He massively carried water for the whole “if I made it, anyone can” and “black people suffer from a culture of poverty” type of nonsense,
But I guess that would require you to defend the points you make, and wouldn’t that just be an awful fate?
For… objecting to something that you said, and that you have been entirely incapable of mounting even a nominal defense of, probably because you’re aware that it was said as bad-faith bullshit with no grounding in reality?
No, Im saying you should fuck off because youre too lazy to neutrally asses information, and too pathetic to question your obviously understudied opinion. You made no real argument whatsoever originally other than saying Obama wasnt a neoliberal president, which is just baseless and stupid. You refuse to asses information from an article that well predates the Palestinian Genocide by a longshot and has nothing to do with the conflict whatsoever. Youre just outright ignorant quite frankly
Best of luck living with your head in the sand, Im done responding to someone who doesnt converse in good faith
You made no real argument whatsoever originally other than saying Obama wasnt a neoliberal president, which is just baseless and stupid.
Would you like to re-read my original response and point out where I said anything about the neoliberal characterization of Obama, or is that too arduous and trying a task to attempt?
You refuse to asses information from an article that well predates the Palestinian Genocide by a longshot and has nothing to do with the conflict whatsoever.
That’s not one of the several genocides that Jacobin denies, and thus not one of the ones I was talking about. Though, for that matter, the article certainly does not predate 1948.
This is the first I’ve heard of the neoliberals being driven out of the DNC and frankly I find it a bit hard to believe. Outside of the win in NY I haven’t heard of any other significant shakeups in the party, and frankly the number of politicians in the DNC you’d need to oust to dislodge the neoliberals makes me think I’d have heard something.
The DNC is definitively a neoliberal party. Obama was one of the most neoliberal presidents we have ever had, as far as social attitudes go. He massively carried water for the whole “if I made it, anyone can” and “black people suffer from a culture of poverty” type of nonsense, both of which serve an agenda that is against providing social safety nets and actually helping people improve their lives. Neoliberalism is all about blaming individuals for the failures of government as a means to avoid bolstering social services
“Neoliberals have been run out of the DNC” is absolutely nonsense. Neoliberals running the DNC is 99.9% of the problem with the DNC today. Its the reason why true progressive politics fail so often
Got ACA with medicaid expansion passed: neoliberal?
Fuck’s sake, I see we don’t remember any of Obama’s actual presidency in exchange for some weird online circlejerk version.
Lol dude. If you think my perspective is not sound and that Obama isnt a classic neoliberal politician then you need to study his presidency yourself. The only one here confused about what actually went down is you.
Here, have an article to get you started
Literally the only thing remotely distant from neoliberalism that Obama ever accomplished was Obamacare, and even then that was just a half-assed version of actual progressive policy like single payer healthcare or medicare for all. And the reasoning behind why we never got real progressive policy when they pushed Obamacare is because the DNC is a neoliberal party in sheeps clothing. Just as Obama was. Read a thing or two before you say dumb shit online. The democrats had full control of the government, they could have revolutionized our country just as magats are doing now, instead they barely accomplished anything. They didnt because theyre a bunch of neoliberal fuckers. Its factual, not subjective
If I wanted campist apologia from genocide deniers, I could read Jacobin rag on my own time. I’ll pass on someone trying to use it as a replacement for having thoughts of their own. I note that you didn’t actually respond to what I actually objected to,
But I guess that would require you to defend the points you make, and wouldn’t that just be an awful fate?
Oh fuck off dude, youre pathetic and you know it. Go back to licking neoliberal boots
For… objecting to something that you said, and that you have been entirely incapable of mounting even a nominal defense of, probably because you’re aware that it was said as bad-faith bullshit with no grounding in reality?
Uh, okay.
No, Im saying you should fuck off because youre too lazy to neutrally asses information, and too pathetic to question your obviously understudied opinion. You made no real argument whatsoever originally other than saying Obama wasnt a neoliberal president, which is just baseless and stupid. You refuse to asses information from an article that well predates the Palestinian Genocide by a longshot and has nothing to do with the conflict whatsoever. Youre just outright ignorant quite frankly
Best of luck living with your head in the sand, Im done responding to someone who doesnt converse in good faith
Would you like to re-read my original response and point out where I said anything about the neoliberal characterization of Obama, or is that too arduous and trying a task to attempt?
That’s not one of the several genocides that Jacobin denies, and thus not one of the ones I was talking about. Though, for that matter, the article certainly does not predate 1948.
What irony.
You…
You think the result of the NYC mayor’s Dem.orimaty is a shakeup in the DNC?
The reason so many people aren’t aware the DNC got better, is apparently they have no idea what the DNC is…
Like, you just fundamentally do t know how this works…
You’re conflating any elected politician at even city level, with the voting members of the DNC…
And like. You know the chair election was 5 months ago? Right?
You’re acting like it’s a hypothetical that something that has already happened might happen?
How the fuck did 21 people read you comment and no one tried to help you understand?