I really hate their friends in the video. They’re all aware their friends are piece of shit cheaters, and they find it funny. “Haha we’re taking part in destroying a woman’s life by helping her husband cheat, hilarious!”
In balance of power. Since he is the CEO he holds a position of authority over her. She could very well be in a position where she fearful of retaliation if she doesn’t except his advances. I’m not saying that’s the case here, but there is a chance it could be.
No sir, just because I was deeply involved in their private life and invited to an expensive event during my free time by and with them doesn’t mean we’re “friends”. I barely know them!
The owners of my last company took us to a baseball game in an executive suite. Me attending the game did not in any way, shape, or form mean that I condone anything they do in their personal life.
I would not attend a concert if the tickets were given to me by my boss, who is openly going to cheat in front of me while I’m there. Is that wild to you?
What’s wrong with that? Of course they will side with their friends. If my friend is scheming and shares with me, I’m in! Being partners in crime is such a strong bonding experience.
Being partner in crime is a bonding experience if you do something that is morally right against a superior enemy. Not a group of guys ganging up on a women.
Yeah those people can take a while to sniff out. It’s difficult when someone is kind and generous with you, maybe even protective, but they lack empathy towards people who they consider outside of their very small kindness bubble.
Actually reminds me of this old article (checks date, wow, really old). Kind of related to Dunbar’s number. It’s pretty intuitive, but still some good reading.
Not if the friend is wrong. If they’re really wrong then, I’ll try to talk them out of it. If they’re really really wrong, then I’ll stop being their friend.
I don’t like this kind of in-group/out-group clannish mentality – that “right” is whatever the in-group decides, with no greater thought to what’s like actually the best thing for everyone, whether they’re in the group or not.
People who think ducking other people and require porking excludivity rights and that violating that egregious agreement is to be understood as “cheating” and that jt “destroys your life” are THE PROBLEM. Big capital P PROBLEM and please all of you duck off into the Sun already you medieval, knuckle-dragging, fairy tale believing, immature, uptight, toxic, purita-totalitarian, well poisonning, abscess-filled, fun preventers and your ball breaking accomplices!
“Cheating” isn’t just violating “porking exclusivity rights”, it’s breaking whatever the commitments and promises you have made to others within that relationship.
I agree completely that the institutions of marriage and default of hard monogamy are a “Big capital P PROBLEM”, but only because it prevents thinking and talking about what those commitments should be between the individuals within those relationships. Which inevitably ends up causing harm because it allows for the incredibly immature stance of “all relationships should be {like this}” without considering the wants and needs of those involved.
The problem with the couple above is that they are clearly, and publicly, being caught in the act of breaking the terms of some such personal agreement, however unspoken, and that makes one or both of them a lying, two face, cowardly, immature, piece of shit regardless of any overarching discussion about monogamy, but what else should you expect from a CEO?
The key takeaway is that your message will not land with anyone and will be counterproductive because you are conflating being a dishonest douchenozzle with general non-monogamy and people will resent you and your underlying message, however valid, because of it.
I couldn’t phrase it that constructively while also just “letting it out” I"m not trying to convince anyone just finding why I am so irked/annoyed at people calling the guy’s main being “their life destroyed” by a fucking hug, as if they knew anything about their relationship, they’re just assumed of course in their worldview that’s “being destroyed”, like wow, I don’t want anything to do with any of that crap worldview !
If it was just a fucking hug or just this photo then I’d 100% agree with you, but watch the video that has been linked in this thread, they’re — not subtle. It’s such a grossly over the top “hand in the cookie jar” type moment.
Also you make a good point about the “the guy’s main being “their life destroyed”” being an absolute shit worldview. I get sometimes just needing to vent, but you do understand the consequences and harms of this being your method of release right?
I really hate their friends in the video. They’re all aware their friends are piece of shit cheaters, and they find it funny. “Haha we’re taking part in destroying a woman’s life by helping her husband cheat, hilarious!”
I mean theyre both married. Not sure why you’re focusing on just the one piece of shit.
In balance of power. Since he is the CEO he holds a position of authority over her. She could very well be in a position where she fearful of retaliation if she doesn’t except his advances. I’m not saying that’s the case here, but there is a chance it could be.
If my boss came on to me, I’m still not betraying my wife. I’ll definitely collect evidence for a law suit though.
When I last read the story he was confirmed to be married but nobody knew anything about her. That’s why
I think some of them were just coworkers.
There’s coworkers and there’s CEO talking certain employees who are aware of his cheating, to the Coldplay concert
And? They aren’t necessarily friends
No sir, just because I was deeply involved in their private life and invited to an expensive event during my free time by and with them doesn’t mean we’re “friends”. I barely know them!
The owners of my last company took us to a baseball game in an executive suite. Me attending the game did not in any way, shape, or form mean that I condone anything they do in their personal life.
Did those owners also bring their secret potentially marriage destroying affairs to those official events?
Is that relevant to whether or not attending constitutes condoning it?
I would not attend a concert if the tickets were given to me by my boss, who is openly going to cheat in front of me while I’m there. Is that wild to you?
Yeah, like Andrea Manafort said, they just keep showing up and eating the lobster
What’s wrong with that? Of course they will side with their friends. If my friend is scheming and shares with me, I’m in! Being partners in crime is such a strong bonding experience.
Being partner in crime is a bonding experience if you do something that is morally right against a superior enemy. Not a group of guys ganging up on a women.
Woman. A woman. Women is plural.
People who help others cheat are shitty people
You’re not wrong, but a lot of folks are better friends than they are good people.
Yeah those people can take a while to sniff out. It’s difficult when someone is kind and generous with you, maybe even protective, but they lack empathy towards people who they consider outside of their very small kindness bubble.
Actually reminds me of this old article (checks date, wow, really old). Kind of related to Dunbar’s number. It’s pretty intuitive, but still some good reading.
Nah. Better to just cut untrustworthy people from your life.
So, you’d help your friend cheat on their partner and still feel comfortable trusting them?
Not if the friend is wrong. If they’re really wrong then, I’ll try to talk them out of it. If they’re really really wrong, then I’ll stop being their friend.
I don’t like this kind of in-group/out-group clannish mentality – that “right” is whatever the in-group decides, with no greater thought to what’s like actually the best thing for everyone, whether they’re in the group or not.
I hope that’s sarcasm but I’m not sure.
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That’s the CEO and CPO, not her friends. She was recently promoted, possibly related to things like this
She’s making tens of thousands more per year to be complicit. I’ve seen people do much worse for much less money
Dude I’ve audited Raytheon. I would like to validate every word of your second paragraph
CEOs don’t have friends.
People who think ducking other people and require porking excludivity rights and that violating that egregious agreement is to be understood as “cheating” and that jt “destroys your life” are THE PROBLEM. Big capital P PROBLEM and please all of you duck off into the Sun already you medieval, knuckle-dragging, fairy tale believing, immature, uptight, toxic, purita-totalitarian, well poisonning, abscess-filled, fun preventers and your ball breaking accomplices!
That’s a lot of mouth diarrhea to say you’re a piece of shit who doesn’t respect your partners wishes for monogamy.
Is this English?
barely.
It’s art.
I don’t agree with it, but it’s beautifully put.
well the other guy said it’s
so 🤷, I guess … I shouldn’t assume the meanest comment is right eh
It is hotly debated, but poop does get displayed as art from time to time.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist's_Shit
lemmy shitposts comment section is so erudite !
No, they’re stroking out from inhaling tank exhaust.
Tell me you’re a psychopath without telling me you’re a psychopath.
“Cheating” isn’t just violating “porking exclusivity rights”, it’s breaking whatever the commitments and promises you have made to others within that relationship.
I agree completely that the institutions of marriage and default of hard monogamy are a “Big capital P PROBLEM”, but only because it prevents thinking and talking about what those commitments should be between the individuals within those relationships. Which inevitably ends up causing harm because it allows for the incredibly immature stance of “all relationships should be {like this}” without considering the wants and needs of those involved.
The problem with the couple above is that they are clearly, and publicly, being caught in the act of breaking the terms of some such personal agreement, however unspoken, and that makes one or both of them a lying, two face, cowardly, immature, piece of shit regardless of any overarching discussion about monogamy, but what else should you expect from a CEO?
The key takeaway is that your message will not land with anyone and will be counterproductive because you are conflating being a dishonest douchenozzle with general non-monogamy and people will resent you and your underlying message, however valid, because of it.
I couldn’t phrase it that constructively while also just “letting it out” I"m not trying to convince anyone just finding why I am so irked/annoyed at people calling the guy’s main being “their life destroyed” by a fucking hug, as if they knew anything about their relationship, they’re just assumed of course in their worldview that’s “being destroyed”, like wow, I don’t want anything to do with any of that crap worldview !
If it was just a fucking hug or just this photo then I’d 100% agree with you, but watch the video that has been linked in this thread, they’re — not subtle. It’s such a grossly over the top “hand in the cookie jar” type moment.
Also you make a good point about the “the guy’s main being “their life destroyed”” being an absolute shit worldview. I get sometimes just needing to vent, but you do understand the consequences and harms of this being your method of release right?
like no wonder so many married people are unhappy, even people I know personnally think this “sucks but is convenient” wow, that ducking blow
That’s weird, you must be meeting drastically different people than me because most of my social circles are happy in their relationships.