Newsom is a neo-feudalist asshat who tried to lick fascist boots earlier this very year. If a corprocrat like him is chosen, Dems are cooked because voters have consistently not turned out for them recently. If such a flakey and uninspiring candidate is chosen, MAGA has a better chance due to base suppression. It doesn’t matter that you think voters should act differently, because what is =/= what “ought” to be.
I’m tired of people expecting voters to shape themselves to the party instead of the other way around. Trump didn’t dominate other Republicans by telling people to “be better,” but by agreeing to satiate their strongest emotions. People aren’t in the mood to hear “it can’t be done yet, be patient,” when everyone’s economic situation has gotten worse with every passing year regardless of who is in charge. Democrats have nothing but false promises, which is why they lost against the American Hitler.
Newsom’s aunt was married to Nancy Pelosi’s brother-in-law until they divorced, almost 50 years ago. This wouldn’t make him her nephew, even before the divorce, and there are more pertinent reasons to abhor both Pelosi and Newsom.
We should put TotallynitJessica in the campaign! Reminds me of this quote.
“Some party hack decreed that the people
had lost the government’s confidence
and could only regain it with redoubled effort.
If that is the case, would it not be be simpler,
If the government simply dissolved the people
And elected another?”
– Bertolt Brecht
Those are the only options? We can’t have non transphobic people in primaries? We can’t hold them to a hire standard? If we are at the point where these are our only options, we are already cooked.
Hold them to a higher standard and they will be forced to it. Giving in and staying well, I’d rather vote for a transphobe than a MAGA allows them to stay transphobic.
This is the whole problem, we’ve been convinced we need to vote for harm reduction and only harm reduction, and even the Democrats are sliding further right.
Do better. Don’t accept a shit sandwich and a shit sandwich with mayonnaise.
Those aren’t the choices right now. Gavin shouldn’t even make it that far. We desperately need new blood, someone who captures the anger at the heart of the american left-of-center, not another establishment democrat who will pretend it isn’t there.
centrists, always giving away every negotiation before it even starts. I imagine back on the schoolyard you’d chase bullies down and demand they took your milk money.
It is 2025, and we are talking about an election that is happening in 2028. The primary isn’t even on most people’s radar. If we can’t criticize candidates now, precisely when is it appropriate to level criticism at politicians???
If we can’t criticize candidates now, precisely when is it appropriate to level criticism at politicians???
Depends. If they’re progressive, we can lob bigoted attacks at them after the primaries are over like Gilibrand and Jeffries did to Mamdani. If they’re centrist, a couple weeks before the Big Bang is too close to the election.
Never, the answer is never. Never criticize, just bend over and take it just like the Republicans do. No choice, no voice, shut up and support the politicians who support the billionaire class.
Source: I have been seeing this same song and dance for 25 fucking years.
You know why Republicans get support? Because they at least lie and say they are supporting common people. Democrats give us this wishy washy bullshit of “well we did studies and we can’t really make that happen” and fucking nobody wants to endlessly be told “no, we can’t” by a bunch of policy wonk nerds.
Now’s the fucking time to criticize Dem candidates, before and then during the Dem primaries. Our options going forward aren’t “Newsom or a fucking Republican” yet, so don’t fucking resign yourself - and all of us by extension - to fucking Newsom.
What a farce. People don’t want diet Republican candidates which is why the Republicans control every branch of government. The DNC would rather hand over control than allow a progressive to hold office.
“Vote blue no matter who” got us Donald Trump, and a Democratic Party that barely makes a shadow effort to oppose him. I for one am finished with that.
I’m not done with it. Mamdani won the primary in New York. People like Hakeem Jeffries need to pull their damn britches up and vote blue no matter who, amirite?
He’s miles above the average Democrat if you really look into all the details, the Republicans are masters of personal attacks and talking points that poison the discussion vs. Address any part of reality. Be careful not to fall for it. Granted like Obama he’s a careful centrist with no real desire to move the needle one direction or the other and that’s been the problem this whole time it’s establishment Dems want to play both sides and it stopped working after Trump’s cult. So. He’s not the answer to the problems Harris had, he’s likely to put his foot in the same trap and he’s by no means a liberal or populist, but he his a very strong debtor and a successful Gov if you look into it factually.
If people keep expecting Dem candidates to be 100% pure in their viewpoints then we will be stuck with MAGA again and again.
Newsom is a neo-feudalist asshat who tried to lick fascist boots earlier this very year. If a corprocrat like him is chosen, Dems are cooked because voters have consistently not turned out for them recently. If such a flakey and uninspiring candidate is chosen, MAGA has a better chance due to base suppression. It doesn’t matter that you think voters should act differently, because what is =/= what “ought” to be.
I’m tired of people expecting voters to shape themselves to the party instead of the other way around. Trump didn’t dominate other Republicans by telling people to “be better,” but by agreeing to satiate their strongest emotions. People aren’t in the mood to hear “it can’t be done yet, be patient,” when everyone’s economic situation has gotten worse with every passing year regardless of who is in charge. Democrats have nothing but false promises, which is why they lost against the American Hitler.
Also, his ex wife was a Fox News girl and Don Jr.’s ex gf so he’s in the same club as the rest of them.
He’s also Nancy Pelosi’s nephew.
Newsom’s aunt was married to Nancy Pelosi’s brother-in-law until they divorced, almost 50 years ago. This wouldn’t make him her nephew, even before the divorce, and there are more pertinent reasons to abhor both Pelosi and Newsom.
No doug. Pelosi was an aunt by marriage until a divorce happened. You can read up on it here. https://calmatters.org/commentary/2019/01/gavin-newsoms-keeping-it-all-in-the-family/
It helps establish his connection to the political dynasties he intends to perpetuate.
Now that explains a lot
Hear! Hear!
We should put TotallynitJessica in the campaign! Reminds me of this quote.
“Some party hack decreed that the people had lost the government’s confidence and could only regain it with redoubled effort. If that is the case, would it not be be simpler, If the government simply dissolved the people And elected another?” – Bertolt Brecht
I expect them to not be transphobic. What the fuck?
I as well, but would you vote for a transphobic Dem, a MAGA Republican, or just not vote?
Those are the only options? We can’t have non transphobic people in primaries? We can’t hold them to a hire standard? If we are at the point where these are our only options, we are already cooked.
Hold them to a higher standard and they will be forced to it. Giving in and staying well, I’d rather vote for a transphobe than a MAGA allows them to stay transphobic.
This is the whole problem, we’ve been convinced we need to vote for harm reduction and only harm reduction, and even the Democrats are sliding further right.
Do better. Don’t accept a shit sandwich and a shit sandwich with mayonnaise.
In the November elections those are often the only choices. You can vote Dem or vote MAGA or not vote, the last two options get us MAGA.
Then don’t act surprised when people don’t return betrayal with devotion.
Those aren’t the choices right now. Gavin shouldn’t even make it that far. We desperately need new blood, someone who captures the anger at the heart of the american left-of-center, not another establishment democrat who will pretend it isn’t there.
centrists, always giving away every negotiation before it even starts. I imagine back on the schoolyard you’d chase bullies down and demand they took your milk money.
It is 2025, and we are talking about an election that is happening in 2028. The primary isn’t even on most people’s radar. If we can’t criticize candidates now, precisely when is it appropriate to level criticism at politicians???
Depends. If they’re progressive, we can lob bigoted attacks at them after the primaries are over like Gilibrand and Jeffries did to Mamdani. If they’re centrist, a couple weeks before the Big Bang is too close to the election.
Never, the answer is never. Never criticize, just bend over and take it just like the Republicans do. No choice, no voice, shut up and support the politicians who support the billionaire class.
Source: I have been seeing this same song and dance for 25 fucking years.
You know why Republicans get support? Because they at least lie and say they are supporting common people. Democrats give us this wishy washy bullshit of “well we did studies and we can’t really make that happen” and fucking nobody wants to endlessly be told “no, we can’t” by a bunch of policy wonk nerds.
Now’s the fucking time to criticize Dem candidates, before and then during the Dem primaries. Our options going forward aren’t “Newsom or a fucking Republican” yet, so don’t fucking resign yourself - and all of us by extension - to fucking Newsom.
This exactly. Choose your preferred candidate during the primaries. Then hopefully have a tolerable choice on the November ballot.
What a farce. People don’t want diet Republican candidates which is why the Republicans control every branch of government. The DNC would rather hand over control than allow a progressive to hold office.
“Vote blue no matter who” got us Donald Trump, and a Democratic Party that barely makes a shadow effort to oppose him. I for one am finished with that.
I’m not done with it. Mamdani won the primary in New York. People like Hakeem Jeffries need to pull their damn britches up and vote blue no matter who, amirite?
He’s miles above the average Democrat if you really look into all the details, the Republicans are masters of personal attacks and talking points that poison the discussion vs. Address any part of reality. Be careful not to fall for it. Granted like Obama he’s a careful centrist with no real desire to move the needle one direction or the other and that’s been the problem this whole time it’s establishment Dems want to play both sides and it stopped working after Trump’s cult. So. He’s not the answer to the problems Harris had, he’s likely to put his foot in the same trap and he’s by no means a liberal or populist, but he his a very strong debtor and a successful Gov if you look into it factually.
Your leaders are failing you, Dan. Gavin’s got a pack of rabid dogs he wouldn’t mind much feeding you to.