For the record, I have voted D for every election that Trump has been on the ballot.
I 100% get what you’re saying, but 2/3 times that ended up being a waste of a vote.
Republicans vote Republican because they like what the Republican party does. Democrats vote Democrat either because they like what the Democratic Party does, or because of the Republican on the ballot. I’m simply refusing to allow my vote to continue to be held hostage under threat of a fascist that wins anyway. Anything else legitimizes the threat and perpetuates the 2 party system.
That isn’t to say I will no longer vote Democrat, I’m just not going to play into their narrative of “we’re less evil than the other guys” anymore when they fumble at every opportunity to fulfill their promises to their progressive base, while also refusing to change tactics and instead double down on trying to appeal to Republican-lites when it is made clear THAT is why they lost the election. The Overton window can only shift so much before you start realizing you don’t actually have a choice.
I have never voted for someone because I like their platform, and I want to dammit. If a Democrat wants my vote, they’re going to campaign on a platform I like, and will not get it for any other reason. They have scared me into giving me their vote and failed to deliver on their promises every single time.
I have never voted for someone because I like their platform, and I want to dammit. If a Democrat wants my vote, they’re going to campaign on a platform I like, and will not get it for any other reason.
Again, “Blue Circus isn’t entertaining enough, so minorities like you can fuck off and die” is not a moral position and I’m not going to fucking pretend that it is. You can be upset all you want, but you have genocide on your hands if you enable Nazis like that going forward.
That’s a vast oversimplification of what I stated but you do you.
I’m a minority, my family members are minorities, and just because this country doesn’t actually allow us to have a decent choice of candidate doesn’t mean I’m enabling nazis by refusing to choose which elite to fuck us over for another 4 years.
“I will continue to vote for the candidate that more closely aligns with my progressive policy stances and doesn’t want minorities to fuck off and die, rather than be scared into voting for the lesser evil which probably still wants us to fuck off and die” is my point, which is much different than what you just said.
That’s a vast oversimplification of what I stated but you do you.
I’m a minority, my family members are minorities, and just because this country doesn’t actually allow us to have a decent choice of candidate doesn’t mean I’m enabling nazis by refusing to choose which elite to fuck us over for another 4 years.
“I will continue to vote for the candidate that more closely aligns with my progressive policy stances and doesn’t want minorities to fuck off and die” is much different than what you just said.
Bruh, your entire screed was about how you’re not voting for platforms you don’t like anymore, regardless of who the opposition is. Right now we’re herding people into concentration camps. Sorry for finding that a little more pressing than you ‘liking’ the Dem candidate’s platform?
“I refuse to choose between getting screwed over by corrupt Dems and getting every minority group in the country murdered by Nazis!” is not a reasonable or moral take. It’s utter dogshit.
Sorry man, you’re not going to scare me into voting your way. I already did that and we still got the concentration camps. At this point I’d rather have my dignity of choosing who I want to choose, rather than being pressured or shamed into choosing someone I don’t want.
The descent into fascism will continue as long as we continue to support only the two big parties. The only way we win their game is by not playing it.
If the Democrats want to win, they’ll pick a popular candidate with popular policies. If they want to lose, they’ll double-down on a losing strategy, which it seems they are.
Don’t worry. We all have to resist in the way we understand best.
OP seems to think fascist racists actually care about laws and will respect the outcomes of our voting which is his right. Its just unfortunate he cant see that people fighting the system in other ways may actually be useful too.
I always have opposed it, and always will. It’s not my fault we only have the illusion of a choice. I am not your enemy. I’m your peer who is going through this with you. Rather than argue with each other we should be figuring out how we can come together and stop this while we still can. “Vote blue no matter who” is not necessarily the answer. If it was, it would’ve worked by now.
Remember 2021 when Democrats controlled congress and the White House and tried to pass a massive reconciliation bill that STILL got watered down because of establishment Democrat holdouts whose fossil fuel industry donators would make less money if it passed?
What about when the Senate decided that because a unelected parliamentarian said so, they couldn’t give undocumented immigrants (including dreamers) legal status?:
These were all issues Democrats ran on and were elected to solve, and even with all the power to do so they somehow couldn’t get it across the finish line. This is a pattern for establishment democrats. Do just enough to make it look like they’re on your side without really doing anything to upset the status quo. Then they have the audacity to convince you and so many others that if we don’t keep them in power we are somehow the ones morally at fault?
FUCK THAT.
They have wasted every chance they got and shown that they would rather lose an election than learn lessons of the past failure and put out a popular message. As soon as the Supreme Court decided last year that Presidents were kings, Biden should have used that power to push through the rest of his agenda. Trump as a 34x convicted felon shouldn’t even be eligible to be President, but the DOJ did nothing to uphold this basic constitutional requirement and instead just let him back in.
If that weren’t enough, he even mentioned getting Elon to rig the election for him, ON ELECTION NIGHT. Why wasn’t that immediately investigated? Instead we just got reassurance that the election is highly secure. Maybe it wasn’t rigged, maybe it is secure, but why even leave it up to chance?
Trust me, I oppose EVERYTHING wrong with the current administration. But I’m also no longer going to be told how to vote by a party that fails every single time they get the chance to do the right thing.
For the record, I have voted D for every election that Trump has been on the ballot.
I 100% get what you’re saying, but 2/3 times that ended up being a waste of a vote.
Republicans vote Republican because they like what the Republican party does. Democrats vote Democrat either because they like what the Democratic Party does, or because of the Republican on the ballot. I’m simply refusing to allow my vote to continue to be held hostage under threat of a fascist that wins anyway. Anything else legitimizes the threat and perpetuates the 2 party system.
That isn’t to say I will no longer vote Democrat, I’m just not going to play into their narrative of “we’re less evil than the other guys” anymore when they fumble at every opportunity to fulfill their promises to their progressive base, while also refusing to change tactics and instead double down on trying to appeal to Republican-lites when it is made clear THAT is why they lost the election. The Overton window can only shift so much before you start realizing you don’t actually have a choice.
I have never voted for someone because I like their platform, and I want to dammit. If a Democrat wants my vote, they’re going to campaign on a platform I like, and will not get it for any other reason. They have scared me into giving me their vote and failed to deliver on their promises every single time.
Again, “Blue Circus isn’t entertaining enough, so minorities like you can fuck off and die” is not a moral position and I’m not going to fucking pretend that it is. You can be upset all you want, but you have genocide on your hands if you enable Nazis like that going forward.
That’s a vast oversimplification of what I stated but you do you.
I’m a minority, my family members are minorities, and just because this country doesn’t actually allow us to have a decent choice of candidate doesn’t mean I’m enabling nazis by refusing to choose which elite to fuck us over for another 4 years.
“I will continue to vote for the candidate that more closely aligns with my progressive policy stances and doesn’t want minorities to fuck off and die, rather than be scared into voting for the lesser evil which probably still wants us to fuck off and die” is my point, which is much different than what you just said.
Bruh, your entire screed was about how you’re not voting for platforms you don’t like anymore, regardless of who the opposition is. Right now we’re herding people into concentration camps. Sorry for finding that a little more pressing than you ‘liking’ the Dem candidate’s platform?
“I refuse to choose between getting screwed over by corrupt Dems and getting every minority group in the country murdered by Nazis!” is not a reasonable or moral take. It’s utter dogshit.
Sorry man, you’re not going to scare me into voting your way. I already did that and we still got the concentration camps. At this point I’d rather have my dignity of choosing who I want to choose, rather than being pressured or shamed into choosing someone I don’t want.
The descent into fascism will continue as long as we continue to support only the two big parties. The only way we win their game is by not playing it.
If the Democrats want to win, they’ll pick a popular candidate with popular policies. If they want to lose, they’ll double-down on a losing strategy, which it seems they are.
I’ll remember that when I’m in RFK’s camps for concetration, thanks for preferring your ‘dignity’ over the genocide of minorities. /s
The Nazis thank you for being one of their useful idiots.
I’ll be right there with ya pal. I hate this too. :(
Don’t worry. We all have to resist in the way we understand best.
OP seems to think fascist racists actually care about laws and will respect the outcomes of our voting which is his right. Its just unfortunate he cant see that people fighting the system in other ways may actually be useful too.
Just not enough to oppose it.
I always have opposed it, and always will. It’s not my fault we only have the illusion of a choice. I am not your enemy. I’m your peer who is going through this with you. Rather than argue with each other we should be figuring out how we can come together and stop this while we still can. “Vote blue no matter who” is not necessarily the answer. If it was, it would’ve worked by now.
Remember 2021 when Democrats controlled congress and the White House and tried to pass a massive reconciliation bill that STILL got watered down because of establishment Democrat holdouts whose fossil fuel industry donators would make less money if it passed?
https://www.businessinsider.com/manchin-no-guarantee-reconciliation-bill-senate-infrastructure-democrats-aoc-2021-8
What about when the Senate decided that because a unelected parliamentarian said so, they couldn’t give undocumented immigrants (including dreamers) legal status?:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/read-the-senate-rules-decision-that-blocks-democrats-from-putting-immigration-reform-in-budget
These were all issues Democrats ran on and were elected to solve, and even with all the power to do so they somehow couldn’t get it across the finish line. This is a pattern for establishment democrats. Do just enough to make it look like they’re on your side without really doing anything to upset the status quo. Then they have the audacity to convince you and so many others that if we don’t keep them in power we are somehow the ones morally at fault?
FUCK THAT.
They have wasted every chance they got and shown that they would rather lose an election than learn lessons of the past failure and put out a popular message. As soon as the Supreme Court decided last year that Presidents were kings, Biden should have used that power to push through the rest of his agenda. Trump as a 34x convicted felon shouldn’t even be eligible to be President, but the DOJ did nothing to uphold this basic constitutional requirement and instead just let him back in.
If that weren’t enough, he even mentioned getting Elon to rig the election for him, ON ELECTION NIGHT. Why wasn’t that immediately investigated? Instead we just got reassurance that the election is highly secure. Maybe it wasn’t rigged, maybe it is secure, but why even leave it up to chance?
Trust me, I oppose EVERYTHING wrong with the current administration. But I’m also no longer going to be told how to vote by a party that fails every single time they get the chance to do the right thing.