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    37 days ago

    The tankies would meet up regardless of the law. Because they know how important organizing and assembling is. Liberals would give them to the cops.

    Do you think you work would be better done if you didn’t have to do it undercover? You could help way more people if you had the room to do so… guess what, that is the elections front of the [class] war. Your neglect of it is harming our movement as a whole. The fact you don’t care makes you a bad ally and unserious about achieving goals.

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      27 days ago

      The work has to be done regardless and we don’t let silly things such as what’s legal and illegal stop us from doing such work.

      It would be better not to work undercover but as I said before there’s no guarantee under either political Administration about the right for a radical group to assemble wouldn’t be restricted so your point is moot.

      You’re neglect of doing literally any other work other than electoral advocacy it’s part of the reason the United States is in this mess and a major reason why the fascists are in the White House.

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        37 days ago

        It would be better not to work undercover but as I said before there’s no guarantee under either political Administration about the right for a radical group to assemble wouldn’t be restricted so your point is moot.

        And the fact you don’t care means that you will be limited in what you can do. That makes your movement moot and not serious.

        You’re neglect of doing literally any other work other than electoral advocacy it’s part of the reason the United States is in this mess and a major reason why the fascists are in the White House.

        Again. I never said elections are the only think. I am saying that they are important.

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          27 days ago

          Yeah I have a lot of historical Freedom Fighter groups that would disagree with your premise. In particular the ANC would like a word.

          As would the Bolsheviks

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            37 days ago

            Well those freedom fighters al had a political party to set terms with their opponents and organize tangible material gains for supporters. Your lack of voting means you don’t have that DNC or 3rd party, so yeah you are not a serious freedom fighter, nor are you working to have a true organization.

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              27 days ago

              They made their own political party and did not use the one that pre-existed. Also they weren’t solely focused on electoralism as even one of their most important aspects of the fight. They were focused on using electoralism to get their message out. They were focused on using electoralism to show how electoralism couldn’t save them from their problems which directly led to the October Revolution.

              I’ve also never said that you shouldn’t vote for third party or work with third party only that you shouldn’t waste a ton of time with parties focused on electoralism.

              It’s wonderful to be told what I mean over and over and over again when I’ve said quite clearly what I meant

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                37 days ago

                They made their own political party and did not use the one that pre-existed. Also they weren’t solely focused on electoralism as even one of their most important aspects of the fight. They were focused on using electoralism to get their message out. They were focused on using electoralism to show how electoralism couldn’t save them from their problems which directly led to the October Revolution.

                100% and because of that they had leadership and structure to start their revolution. A thing you never will because you won’t show up to vote and build out the movement. Tankies are not serious about the material conditions and getting results.

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                  27 days ago

                  Yeah sure if you keep repeating the line about “tankies” not taking things seriously somebody will believe you.

                  Somebody doesn’t understand what local organization is.

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                    37 days ago

                    Well, when i see tankies being serious about the reality that the most vulnerable is facing then i will see them as a serious group.