I have a desktop I built in 2019 with no TPM running. Windows 10.
Starting a couple of months ago, occasionally when it boots it will automatically open a full-screen ad for Windows 11.
It’s extremely disruptive because of my setup. I use my monitors and keyboard for my work laptop and have a KVM to switch between the two, and since I use that space for work I don’t like to spend much time there for recreation. So I often turn my desktop on and run it headless whenever I’m done with work, and don’t see the ad, which then messes up my attempts at streaming. So I need to walk back upstairs to switch the KVM and close out of it manually.
No matter how many different “permanent” solutions I can find on the internet it keeps finding a way to do it again every couple of weeks. I’ve moved to Linux on most of the rest of my personal machines, but this desktop has all my old music production software that needs Windows. I’m getting pretty close to just investing in a different music production platform that works with Mint though.
Alas, I am running the Home version. I did find in my research posts from sysadmins running the Enterprise version who seemed to have more luck permanently disabling it than I did.
My undergrad university offers licensed Windows desktop OS to Alumni free of charge. This is how I’m legally using Windows Education version (which is the same as Enterprise). I got the sense it was part of a packaged software benefit program MS offers to educational institutions. You may want to see if yours does the same so you could get it free too.
i’ve read somewhere that the microsoft activation support, if you have strange issues with activating your product, at times referred you to that page lol
If it’s supported by your hardware and software you’re still using, I’d be tempted to blow away Windows 10 and put Windows 7 on there. I ran Windows 7 for several years after support ended - best Windows experience ever. Rock solid stable and no hassles of having to deal with updates. I eventually moved onto Linux after continuing to run Windows 7 for general desktop usage started to become unfeasible, but for something that just needs to run Windows to do some specific things, I’d definitely consider it.
I know it’s been rough for a buddy in a similar situation, but if you’re an ableton user, he’s found bitwig to be the closest thing to come to what he needs. But I believe he’s still had some driver trouble in places. I don’t do much myself as a full-time linux user, but what I ave done of late I’ve used in-the-box deals like an MPC Live for the heavy lifting, then recorded into Microsoft Paint for Audio Audacity on my actual machine from the box.
I can’t remember the drama with audacity, the usual over reaching and collection of data type shit I think but you should check out Tenacity instead which is a fork of Audacity.
I actually use Cakewalk Sonar X2 mostly. Cakewalk went out of business and has been bought-and-sold and resurrected multiple times since I bought it back around 2014-ish. Whenever I built my desktop in 2019 it was kind of a miracle I was able to get the license activated- I forget what ended up working but I remember having to do a bunch of online searching through forum discussions to get it done.
I downloaded the trial version of Reaper on my Linux Mint machine and it’s… Okay. And to be fair at $60 it’s a lot cheaper than the $150 or so that I paid for Cakewalk. Considering I’m not doing anything professional that’s probably what I will go to eventually.
Sometimes I look at the pace of technological progress and think that humanity is moving too fast for its own good. There’s constantly new companies and new products starting up and then going bankrupt and obsolete in a couple of years. The Cakewall software I have is perfectly fine- it could run just fine on far weaker hardware, there aren’t any features in other modern software that I feel like I’m missing. It just feels so wasteful to have to spend time, energy, and money to switch to a new platform because capitalism dictates I must.
Not to justify it, but the thinking by MS is “this OS is free, so you get ads”, like commercial TV or the rest of the nonsense on the internet.
Also, I’ve run Windows with updates disabled since Windows XP, and have rarely run into problems. I say this as someone who’s been in IT since the early 90’s. I’ve seen 10x more problems caused by updates at work than anything else.
At home I enable updates every 6 months, then go manually grab the updates I need, or else it’ll update things that will break my system.
I paid for my Windows license already, I think it was like $110. I’m not really interested in giving Microsoft any more money to continuing to use a product which is worse than the one I already paid for.
I don’t use my Windows 10 desktop a ton, but I’ve definitely gotten the full page “Update to Windows 11” screen a few times, and it has Windows 10 Pro installed.
Is Windows Home free? I’ve certainly never seen it be free. I’m ok with free stuff needing to make money somehow, within reason, but the second they start asking for creditcard information that shit better be clean as a fucking whistle.
Microsoft being bad at their jobs and leaving huge holes in their software does not mean you aren’t getting something for free that you’re supposed to pay for.
Microsoft Home does cost money, and therefore should not have any ads. That’s it, that’s the end of it.
At this point I don’t even know what I’m supposed to pay for. I had two Windows 10 Pro licenses, transferred those with Microsoft on the phone from OEM to virtual machines, then reinstalled them with Windows 11 and had to activate them with Massgrave scripts. Am I supposed to be paying for those? I don’t want to hire a lawyer.
Fucked if I know. All I’m saying is that if Microsoft has a price tag on it then they shouldn’t put ads and the only reason I replied to that first comment was because it was saying that ads are ok if the product is free(and it isn’t). The only times Windows has been free for me is from college but that is paid for, one way or another.
I have a desktop I built in 2019 with no TPM running. Windows 10.
Starting a couple of months ago, occasionally when it boots it will automatically open a full-screen ad for Windows 11.
It’s extremely disruptive because of my setup. I use my monitors and keyboard for my work laptop and have a KVM to switch between the two, and since I use that space for work I don’t like to spend much time there for recreation. So I often turn my desktop on and run it headless whenever I’m done with work, and don’t see the ad, which then messes up my attempts at streaming. So I need to walk back upstairs to switch the KVM and close out of it manually.
No matter how many different “permanent” solutions I can find on the internet it keeps finding a way to do it again every couple of weeks. I’ve moved to Linux on most of the rest of my personal machines, but this desktop has all my old music production software that needs Windows. I’m getting pretty close to just investing in a different music production platform that works with Mint though.
Or that “Let’s finish setting up your PC” box as if I haven’t been fucking using it for ten years.
Which is just fucking using Onedrive to save your personal files on Microsoft’s servers.
Fuck you, Microsoft! I don’t want to login with your fucking servers.
Have you heard about out lord and saviour the Linux kernel?
Hail to the minty freshness
https://linuxmint.com/
Can I ask which version of Win 10 are you running? I have never run into this with Windows 10 Enterprise (or Education) versions.
Alas, I am running the Home version. I did find in my research posts from sysadmins running the Enterprise version who seemed to have more luck permanently disabling it than I did.
My undergrad university offers licensed Windows desktop OS to Alumni free of charge. This is how I’m legally using Windows Education version (which is the same as Enterprise). I got the sense it was part of a packaged software benefit program MS offers to educational institutions. You may want to see if yours does the same so you could get it free too.
if you wanna switch to the pro version, which should also be better in this regard, here’s a handy link:
https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
turns out the windows activation is extremely insecure and easy to fool ;)
i’ve read somewhere that the microsoft activation support, if you have strange issues with activating your product, at times referred you to that page lol
edit: found it: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-support-cracks-windows-for-customer-after-activation-fails/
Have you tried GRC’s InControl? Supposedly helps prevent the win11 update attempts.
https://www.grc.com/incontrol.htm
Oh thanks I’ll have to give that a shot later!
If it’s supported by your hardware and software you’re still using, I’d be tempted to blow away Windows 10 and put Windows 7 on there. I ran Windows 7 for several years after support ended - best Windows experience ever. Rock solid stable and no hassles of having to deal with updates. I eventually moved onto Linux after continuing to run Windows 7 for general desktop usage started to become unfeasible, but for something that just needs to run Windows to do some specific things, I’d definitely consider it.
I know it’s been rough for a buddy in a similar situation, but if you’re an ableton user, he’s found bitwig to be the closest thing to come to what he needs. But I believe he’s still had some driver trouble in places. I don’t do much myself as a full-time linux user, but what I ave done of late I’ve used in-the-box deals like an MPC Live for the heavy lifting, then recorded into
Microsoft Paint for AudioAudacity on my actual machine from the box.I can’t remember the drama with audacity, the usual over reaching and collection of data type shit I think but you should check out Tenacity instead which is a fork of Audacity.
I actually use Cakewalk Sonar X2 mostly. Cakewalk went out of business and has been bought-and-sold and resurrected multiple times since I bought it back around 2014-ish. Whenever I built my desktop in 2019 it was kind of a miracle I was able to get the license activated- I forget what ended up working but I remember having to do a bunch of online searching through forum discussions to get it done.
I downloaded the trial version of Reaper on my Linux Mint machine and it’s… Okay. And to be fair at $60 it’s a lot cheaper than the $150 or so that I paid for Cakewalk. Considering I’m not doing anything professional that’s probably what I will go to eventually.
Sometimes I look at the pace of technological progress and think that humanity is moving too fast for its own good. There’s constantly new companies and new products starting up and then going bankrupt and obsolete in a couple of years. The Cakewall software I have is perfectly fine- it could run just fine on far weaker hardware, there aren’t any features in other modern software that I feel like I’m missing. It just feels so wasteful to have to spend time, energy, and money to switch to a new platform because capitalism dictates I must.
Check out Ardour as well!
Yea, that’s a Windows Home thing.
Upgrade to pro, where that stuff doesn’t exist.
Not to justify it, but the thinking by MS is “this OS is free, so you get ads”, like commercial TV or the rest of the nonsense on the internet.
Also, I’ve run Windows with updates disabled since Windows XP, and have rarely run into problems. I say this as someone who’s been in IT since the early 90’s. I’ve seen 10x more problems caused by updates at work than anything else.
At home I enable updates every 6 months, then go manually grab the updates I need, or else it’ll update things that will break my system.
Windows Home isn’t free, though.
I paid for my Windows license already, I think it was like $110. I’m not really interested in giving Microsoft any more money to continuing to use a product which is worse than the one I already paid for.
I don’t use my Windows 10 desktop a ton, but I’ve definitely gotten the full page “Update to Windows 11” screen a few times, and it has Windows 10 Pro installed.
Windows Home is free?
Is Windows Home free? I’ve certainly never seen it be free. I’m ok with free stuff needing to make money somehow, within reason, but the second they start asking for creditcard information that shit better be clean as a fucking whistle.
see here ;)
That is a way to steal it(I ain’t no snitch, though) but it doesn’t actually refute my point.
not exactly, see here for an example:
https://feddit.org/comment/7945682
you’re not stealing anything using the script
Microsoft being bad at their jobs and leaving huge holes in their software does not mean you aren’t getting something for free that you’re supposed to pay for.
Microsoft Home does cost money, and therefore should not have any ads. That’s it, that’s the end of it.
At this point I don’t even know what I’m supposed to pay for. I had two Windows 10 Pro licenses, transferred those with Microsoft on the phone from OEM to virtual machines, then reinstalled them with Windows 11 and had to activate them with Massgrave scripts. Am I supposed to be paying for those? I don’t want to hire a lawyer.
Fucked if I know. All I’m saying is that if Microsoft has a price tag on it then they shouldn’t put ads and the only reason I replied to that first comment was because it was saying that ads are ok if the product is free(and it isn’t). The only times Windows has been free for me is from college but that is paid for, one way or another.
Even better if you can get your hands on an Enterprise key. Even more configurable and is doesn’t have some of the annoying items.
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idk what you are using but bitwig runs well on linux and is pretty modern and good, reaper is a little uncomfortable to use but extremly powerful
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