Bruh, polling is a science. Those aren’t just random numbers.
?? Ok? Who said anything about ‘random numbers’?
As I’ve pointed out elsewhere, foreign policy is not exactly a fucking moderate issue here in the States.
So you said, and you also said it was based on a feeling you have not facts. Not exactly science bruh.
This is an issue that is overwhelmingly cared about to begin with by people who are already left-leaning, not moderates or tuned-out half-assed liberals.
“Left Leaning” is exactly how I would describe “half-assed liberals”, and regardless of whether or not you think I’m ‘overestimating the concern’ of centrists and non-MAGAt conservatives, the fact remains that there are a lot more people who are against Genocide than the handful of Leftists in the U.S. It’s not like “We shouldn’t murder and exterminate an entire race of people” is some wacky commie idea. I think you don’t seem to be particularly be concerned about it, and are projecting that on others.
It literally discusses abstainers, man. Come tf on.
Again this is a poll of people WHO VOTED who voluntarily went to YouGov to take the poll. How the fuck would you expect that such a poll could say anything about ‘abstainers’? Did they hold a seance and ask the ghost of Jimmy Carter? Whatever it was it couldn’t have been science, bruh.
… but there’s a chance of Leftists preferred Trump’s total genocide policy to Harris’s noncommittal suggestion of reduction of support?
No? You are the only person here making any sort of a claim that Leftists preferred anything about Trump over Harris.
It really sounds like you just want to hold onto your original conclusion despite the data going against it.
The data doesn’t support your claim. The data suggests that the majority of people who voted for Biden in 2020 and didn’t vote for Harris in 20204 were more concerned with ‘the economy’ than Palestine. The data doesn’t say anything whatsoever about the political leanings of such people, it’s all based on your feelings. It really sounds like you are jumping through hoops to hold onto your original conclusion. I was (and still am) willing to change my view based on evidence, this is not evidence. It’s a single poll that doesn’t support your conclusion.
Which returns to “Leftists are less vile than other political alignments on average, but otherwise indistinguishable
Yes, the only group of people whose ideology is based off of equality and fair treatment for everyone is just as ‘vile’ as the ones who treat humans as slaves for the corporate grindstone and equates your value as a human to how much $ you can make for your corporate overlords or the group who literally see trans people as subhuman. Hot take there bruh.
If you really gave a fuck about Trans people, you would be doing whatever you could to support leftists and try to help them bring about equality instead of pretending every ideology is the same. It’s people like you who love to criticize leftists who legitimately point out that Democrats and Republicans are both bad, without looking at the nuance that we never claimed both sides were equally bad. And you unironically parrot this ignorant tripe, while accusing leftists of being stupid and ignorant? What an amazing hypocrite you are!
How about instead of spending your energy trying to convince Leftists we are trash, you go hang out with the NeoLibs who you clearly have much more in common with and try to convince them that Capitalism and Imperialism is bad actually (assuming you actually believe that). That would do a hell of a lot more toward your goal of safety for marginalized communities than whatever the hell you hope to accomplish with this moronic tactic.
… buying into Holodomor denial isn’t a fucking ‘different conclusion’, it’s ignorance peddled in support of atrocities.
Sure, and I could point to Blaire White as an example of mainstream thought among transgender people- If I was a brain dead moron who was arguing in the worst possible faith I could muster.
Yes, the only group of people whose ideology is based off of equality and fair treatment for everyone is just as ‘vile’ as the ones who treat humans as slaves for the corporate grindstone and equates your value as a human to how much $ you can make for your corporate overlords or the group who literally see trans people as subhuman. Hot take there bruh.
Me:
Which returns to “Leftists are less vile than other political alignments on average, but otherwise indistinguishable
Which returns to “Leftists are less vile than other political alignments on average,
“Leftists are less vile than other political alignments on average
Leftists are less vile
less vile
Considering your unwillingness or inability to read the poll or parse my arguments, I feel this is a very appropriate note to end this ridiculous conversation on.
Considering your unwillingness or inability to read the poll
I read the poll. Did YOU read the poll? You are drawing a lot of conclusions based on the article and your own biases (and not the actual poll) that the data does not support.
I’ve pointed out exactly how it doesn’t logically follow, and your response is to put your fingers in your ears and pretend none of that actually happened.
or parse my arguments
Saying Leftist are “LESS vile ON AVERAGE, but otherwise INDISTINGUISHABLE” is still saying they are vile. Using weasel words like “less” and “on average” doesn’t erase that.
If you find Leftists vile and think you’d be better off suckling the teats of the neolibs- by all means go suck them.
?? Ok? Who said anything about ‘random numbers’?
So you said, and you also said it was based on a feeling you have not facts. Not exactly science bruh.
“Left Leaning” is exactly how I would describe “half-assed liberals”, and regardless of whether or not you think I’m ‘overestimating the concern’ of centrists and non-MAGAt conservatives, the fact remains that there are a lot more people who are against Genocide than the handful of Leftists in the U.S. It’s not like “We shouldn’t murder and exterminate an entire race of people” is some wacky commie idea. I think you don’t seem to be particularly be concerned about it, and are projecting that on others.
Again this is a poll of people WHO VOTED who voluntarily went to YouGov to take the poll. How the fuck would you expect that such a poll could say anything about ‘abstainers’? Did they hold a seance and ask the ghost of Jimmy Carter? Whatever it was it couldn’t have been science, bruh.
No? You are the only person here making any sort of a claim that Leftists preferred anything about Trump over Harris.
The data doesn’t support your claim. The data suggests that the majority of people who voted for Biden in 2020 and didn’t vote for Harris in 20204 were more concerned with ‘the economy’ than Palestine. The data doesn’t say anything whatsoever about the political leanings of such people, it’s all based on your feelings. It really sounds like you are jumping through hoops to hold onto your original conclusion. I was (and still am) willing to change my view based on evidence, this is not evidence. It’s a single poll that doesn’t support your conclusion.
Yes, the only group of people whose ideology is based off of equality and fair treatment for everyone is just as ‘vile’ as the ones who treat humans as slaves for the corporate grindstone and equates your value as a human to how much $ you can make for your corporate overlords or the group who literally see trans people as subhuman. Hot take there bruh.
If you really gave a fuck about Trans people, you would be doing whatever you could to support leftists and try to help them bring about equality instead of pretending every ideology is the same. It’s people like you who love to criticize leftists who legitimately point out that Democrats and Republicans are both bad, without looking at the nuance that we never claimed both sides were equally bad. And you unironically parrot this ignorant tripe, while accusing leftists of being stupid and ignorant? What an amazing hypocrite you are!
How about instead of spending your energy trying to convince Leftists we are trash, you go hang out with the NeoLibs who you clearly have much more in common with and try to convince them that Capitalism and Imperialism is bad actually (assuming you actually believe that). That would do a hell of a lot more toward your goal of safety for marginalized communities than whatever the hell you hope to accomplish with this moronic tactic.
Sure, and I could point to Blaire White as an example of mainstream thought among transgender people- If I was a brain dead moron who was arguing in the worst possible faith I could muster.
Me:
Considering your unwillingness or inability to read the poll or parse my arguments, I feel this is a very appropriate note to end this ridiculous conversation on.
I read the poll. Did YOU read the poll? You are drawing a lot of conclusions based on the article and your own biases (and not the actual poll) that the data does not support.
I’ve pointed out exactly how it doesn’t logically follow, and your response is to put your fingers in your ears and pretend none of that actually happened.
Saying Leftist are “LESS vile ON AVERAGE, but otherwise INDISTINGUISHABLE” is still saying they are vile. Using weasel words like “less” and “on average” doesn’t erase that.
If you find Leftists vile and think you’d be better off suckling the teats of the neolibs- by all means go suck them.