“Trump does no wrong; I trust him no matter what.” “None of these communist government incidents are real, or matter.” “All AI is offensive (or, the contrary, you’re a luddite for not believing in AGI).”
It’s frustrating how absolute loyalty is such a cultural norm now, anything less is error. I even see it with some young folks really clinging to their favorite streamers.
…I think that clouds a lot of judgement even if people are good critical thinkers. In fact, I think I read some study on how critical thinking tests nosedive when the subject is one’s own beliefs, and spike for the opposition.
It’s frustrating how absolute loyalty is such a cultural norm now
Not sure if it was ever any different. Listen to some interviews from the 50s or read some newspapers from the late 1800s. Propaganda has never been any different than today. Tribalism was the same. It’s been pretty much always the case that the majority of the population thought in absolutes.
The problem is you need to have a certain amount of intelligence, education, open-mindedness and humility to accept that things aren’t black and white and that no side has all the answers and all the truth. It’s much easier to just take one side completely and believe that the other side are pure daemons.
See, you say this, but (with all due respect, as I get the perspective), you might vehemently disagree with me asserting that “boycotting AI is playing right into tech bro’s hands.”
So yes I agree with the irony, but I also feel like nuance and sub-arguments (from my perspective) get drowned out, too. Not every single Democrat politician is an oligarch, the US has done some good abroad, and using ML as a FOSS tool you own and host is not necessarily bad.
I feel this encompasses my political universe.
Trumpists: The Clintons are oligarch crooks! Arrest them!
Me: Nods eagerly.
Grads: The US is an imperialist menace! Shows horrific CIA ops.
Me: Mmm hm. Seems like us, yyep.
I’m a local ML enthusiast/tinker too, so:
AI Haters: Sam Altman is a tech bro con artist! ChatGPT is evil and melting our brains!
Me: Yep. Nods. Massive understatement, you have no idea.
Yet I feel binned as a Neolib, US Apologizer and AI Bro. Which I am not.
You have grasped at the very least the most basic understanding of the concept of Nuance, that’s how you’re able to reason.
Those fucks don’t have any critical thinking skills.
And scientific skepticism of one’s ‘tribe’.
“Trump does no wrong; I trust him no matter what.” “None of these communist government incidents are real, or matter.” “All AI is offensive (or, the contrary, you’re a luddite for not believing in AGI).”
It’s frustrating how absolute loyalty is such a cultural norm now, anything less is error. I even see it with some young folks really clinging to their favorite streamers.
…I think that clouds a lot of judgement even if people are good critical thinkers. In fact, I think I read some study on how critical thinking tests nosedive when the subject is one’s own beliefs, and spike for the opposition.
Not sure if it was ever any different. Listen to some interviews from the 50s or read some newspapers from the late 1800s. Propaganda has never been any different than today. Tribalism was the same. It’s been pretty much always the case that the majority of the population thought in absolutes.
The problem is you need to have a certain amount of intelligence, education, open-mindedness and humility to accept that things aren’t black and white and that no side has all the answers and all the truth. It’s much easier to just take one side completely and believe that the other side are pure daemons.
You see the thing is that you don’t see this as a sport, a lot of other people treat it as such.
I’m with you.
They understand that they’re being fucked over by those in power, but are completely blind to who’s doing it the worst and worship them instead.
See, you say this, but (with all due respect, as I get the perspective), you might vehemently disagree with me asserting that “boycotting AI is playing right into tech bro’s hands.”
So yes I agree with the irony, but I also feel like nuance and sub-arguments (from my perspective) get drowned out, too. Not every single Democrat politician is an oligarch, the US has done some good abroad, and using ML as a FOSS tool you own and host is not necessarily bad.