I do think a large part of the “wrong” part of this is due to the US(Lemmy?(Earlier: Reddit)) mindset that you should hate your coworkers for some reason.
I am fairly good friends with all my coworkers. Very good in some cases. I am with these people up to 8 hours a day, and I’m having a blast.
I don’t think it’s the concept of work that is the problem here. I might guess it’s the culture that incenticed pushing those around you down to get a foot up
I like my job and i like my coworkers. The number of hours and the way its scheduled is what drives me crazy. I’m basically on call but i don’t get paid as such. In the future I’m gonna push for a 4 day work week and work slightly longer days.
the US(Lemmy?(Earlier: Reddit)) mindset that you should hate your coworkers for some reason.
This is a thing? Wild. I live in the US but I would not have thought that’s a trope for us. I’ve never had a job where coworkers didn’t love hanging out together after work.
I suppose that’s the online origin shining through, perhaps written by more loner-types who may find sociable coworkers irritating. I get it, I’ve rarely been part of the in-group; but I can’t deny that for every loner that hates their coworkers, there are many more that genuinely enjoy each other’s company.
I have found it to be a fairly prominent view, and it drives my crazy for some reason.
See for instance this post from a few days ago
I do think it’s a bit more mellow on Lemmy than it was on Reddit. But also a lot more people irrationally angry at anything job related as job=capitalism uwu
That post sounds like it’s made by exactly the kind of person I suspected, haha. My car-break-taking neurodivergent self has been accused of “rudeness” over nothing throughout my life. It’s not a work-specific thing, but a “misunderstanding neurodivergence” thing.
In response I developed a cheery mask that I wear to work. It’s provided cushion and plausible deniability when I screw up, as people are more likely to know I don’t mean any harm. But not everyone can mask, and not everyone wants to mask. It’s a shame that so many people can’t imagine others’ perspectives that we’re all forced to either work at hiding ourselves or be socially shunned.
This makes sense. But it sounds miserable to be honest, you spend upwards to 8 hours a day with these people so i would have to imagine it affects productivity in a bad way
This is a bit of a generalization. I’ve come away from work with some very good friends. But I’ve also been in the situation where socializing was specifically disincentivized. The work culture matters a lot; if you’re micromanaged every minute of the day you’re going to have a bad time. What you’re describing sounds to me like more specifically corporate culture, and more in the executive realm than your average worker bee.
Perhaps it’s trite to say so but if anything, the fact that so many people hate their job is above all an indictment of capitalism.
I got my job because I needed it, I still need it but after 13 years I’m very good at it. I go to work, do something I’m very good at, with people that I mostly like and some of whom I’m great friends with and then I go home.
I do think a large part of the “wrong” part of this is due to the US(Lemmy?(Earlier: Reddit)) mindset that you should hate your coworkers for some reason.
I am fairly good friends with all my coworkers. Very good in some cases. I am with these people up to 8 hours a day, and I’m having a blast.
I don’t think it’s the concept of work that is the problem here. I might guess it’s the culture that incenticed pushing those around you down to get a foot up
I like my job and i like my coworkers. The number of hours and the way its scheduled is what drives me crazy. I’m basically on call but i don’t get paid as such. In the future I’m gonna push for a 4 day work week and work slightly longer days.
This is a thing? Wild. I live in the US but I would not have thought that’s a trope for us. I’ve never had a job where coworkers didn’t love hanging out together after work.
I suppose that’s the online origin shining through, perhaps written by more loner-types who may find sociable coworkers irritating. I get it, I’ve rarely been part of the in-group; but I can’t deny that for every loner that hates their coworkers, there are many more that genuinely enjoy each other’s company.
I have found it to be a fairly prominent view, and it drives my crazy for some reason. See for instance this post from a few days ago
I do think it’s a bit more mellow on Lemmy than it was on Reddit. But also a lot more people irrationally angry at anything job related as job=capitalism uwu
That post sounds like it’s made by exactly the kind of person I suspected, haha. My car-break-taking neurodivergent self has been accused of “rudeness” over nothing throughout my life. It’s not a work-specific thing, but a “misunderstanding neurodivergence” thing.
In response I developed a cheery mask that I wear to work. It’s provided cushion and plausible deniability when I screw up, as people are more likely to know I don’t mean any harm. But not everyone can mask, and not everyone wants to mask. It’s a shame that so many people can’t imagine others’ perspectives that we’re all forced to either work at hiding ourselves or be socially shunned.
I think Americans often separate their work and personal lives.
Not because they dislike their coworkers, but the relationships with coworkers isn’t safe.
Literally any random thing can get you fired in the US, and trusting your coworkers with personal info increases the chances of this a ton.
I can not afford to have personal relationships with my coworkers because if 1 wrong thing gets said i become homeless.
This makes sense. But it sounds miserable to be honest, you spend upwards to 8 hours a day with these people so i would have to imagine it affects productivity in a bad way
This is a bit of a generalization. I’ve come away from work with some very good friends. But I’ve also been in the situation where socializing was specifically disincentivized. The work culture matters a lot; if you’re micromanaged every minute of the day you’re going to have a bad time. What you’re describing sounds to me like more specifically corporate culture, and more in the executive realm than your average worker bee.
Perhaps it’s trite to say so but if anything, the fact that so many people hate their job is above all an indictment of capitalism.
You are probably right. But I’m not talking so much about hating the job. More the mindset of “we are coworkers and therefore not friends”
I love work. I love the people I work with. I love putting out a product that is needed by the world.
I’m sorry that some hate their job.
As you should. After all you spend a fuckload of time there
I got my job because I needed it, I still need it but after 13 years I’m very good at it. I go to work, do something I’m very good at, with people that I mostly like and some of whom I’m great friends with and then I go home.