• @[email protected]
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    It’s frustrating to read Christians trying to distinguish themselves from one another based on interpretations of a book while also all believing in a magical creature that lives in the clouds who will both condemn someone to an eternity of torture and provide unconditional love and acceptance.

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      unconditional* love

      * terms and conditions apply

    • JackbyDev
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      The idea that anything anyone could ever do warrants an infinite amount of suffering is crazy.

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        Ehh I mean some people who are irredeemably awful and would do awful things when given the chance 10 times out of 10…

        Though that’s more about who they are.

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          There are acts which deserve severe punishment. Perhaps multiple lifetimes of the most severe punishment one can imagine.

          But there is no such act that, in this finite world, by finite humans, merits infinite punishment.

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            Which is why traditional understandings of Hell are just distance from God in the eternal group hug.

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            Larry niven and Jerry pournelle did a riff on Dante’s inferno where a science fiction writter wakes up in hell with this theme. Do recommend.

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          Even that is a product of their upbringing. They can be fixed, it’s a matter of long time, it hey, God has all the time in the world.

          But eternal damnation is more fun

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              61 day ago

              Even if that were true, we’re literally talking about magic here. Either through therapy or wiggling his magic digits a deity should be able to fix anyone.

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                No, it’s literally true. Some people are irredeemable piles of trash.

                Interesting how so many are voting me down while the US has a PRESIDENT on a SECOND TERM that openly admits to sexually assaulting women and ignoring many, many basic tenants of human decency…, it’s almost like you morons are completely disconnected from reality. Sad.

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                  No one said it’s easy, and when someone has terrible concepts at the core, it might actually require some time in Hell before any change can be made. But it is possible.

                  Also, the other commenter rightfully stated that a deity can literally flip the worldview of anyone if they want to.

                  You just completely ignored a good philosophical take to make a “Trump bad” statement, which already pervades everything here and adds 0 context to the conversation.

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                    If you think I’m only talking of Trump then you’re pretty damn ignorant to the entire point I’ve made. Good job failing both reading comprehension and the paradox of tolerance.

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          While the book they put it all in is about 1500 years old.

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          they stole from greeks alot. oh and thier utter obsession with “the god” being the creator of other religions gods, like in shows and movies about God.(eg sandman and Supernatural(retconned in the last few seasons))

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            sandman

            I’m pretty certain gods in Sandman work like in American Gods or Discworld, i.e., they’re created by people believing in them (and die when people stop believing). See for instance Bast, who’s surviving on a handful of old believers, if I recall correctly.

            (That said I haven’t seen season 2 of the adaptation, so maybe they changed it from the books and you’re referencing that…?)