Can people please stop using the genocide poem to talk about businesses indpendently choosing to moderate porn games on their platforms? The first time that poem was used, over six million people died. Whereas you just can’t goon on itch anymore.
I get why people are unhappy, but no one will die from this. There is no government mandate. This is tone-deaf and offensive for anyone who has or is currently experiencing genocide. People in my country are being rounded up and disappeared. This is in no way comparable and that poem should not be invoked.
That’s irrelevant in this case, since the outcry came from payment processing companies and a sex-negative feminist interest group from Australia (not America), with some ties to TERF organizations. Yes, not great. Special-interest groups from other countries should not be able to have this much influence just because they tattled to a payment processing company. But just to be clear: This Australian radfem group is also not affiliated with the people in power in fascist governments, and the poem should not have been used. Yet people are acting like the federal government has struck down itch.io itself, and saying that this is an example of the mounting Halocaust. Fascism is rising in the U.S., but due to other, much more alarming factors and not this one.
I will be much more concerned when elected Republicans start going after a designated porn site, like Pornhub or something, to scrub out the queer content or to shutter it altogether. itch.io was never a designated pornography site to begin with and elected Republicans never set their sights on it.
So when you invoke the genocide poem, you really need to be asking, “Who is the they in this situation?” If it’s not a fascist government, I’m sorry, but it doesn’t apply and it’s offensive to the POCs, disabled, and trans people facing real problems in the U.S. right now.
Censorship is always the first step. Genocide is the last step. People getting mad when the first step toward fascism is crossed is a very good thing to fight fascism and try to prevent a future genocide. This is exactly what the poem is about : react on the first step, because it will be too late when the genocide starts.
In our administration, censorship wasn’t the first step though. I’m not sure why you think this set of events is the first step. The Trump Administration dismantled the Constitution and Administrative State earlier than this, and ICE disappearing people and Trump making anti-trans EOs predates this as well.
And it really seems like people on the internet care way more about the censorship than the much worse things happening right now.
Also, there are other places to find porn, so is censorship really happening in this case? You could sooner point to Paramount, 60 Minutes, NPR and The Late Show as examples of censorship, which also came after more extreme regime actions.
Finally someone mentions it. It’s just straight up gross to compare. But I will say people getting this mad isn’t as absurd when you have the backstory.
In the context of US; Gay, lesbian, or trans characters existing is enough to label a media under “porn” and states like Florida regularly ban lgbtq+ books using this loophole.
So a lot of people instinctively go on defensive when anyone bans porn.
Also full story wasn’t the business independently chosing to moderate. Another company told them to and game company had to comply.
People are mad an unrelated company out there is trying to regulate what you can’t buy with your money. It just feels weird.
Can people please stop using the genocide poem to talk about businesses indpendently choosing to moderate porn games on their platforms? The first time that poem was used, over six million people died. Whereas you just can’t goon on itch anymore.
I get why people are unhappy, but no one will die from this. There is no government mandate. This is tone-deaf and offensive for anyone who has or is currently experiencing genocide. People in my country are being rounded up and disappeared. This is in no way comparable and that poem should not be invoked.
Yeah they can just start banning media made by and about queer people. Totally fine and won’t hurt anyone or lead to anything worse. That’s certainly not one of the first things the Nazis did…
That’s irrelevant in this case, since the outcry came from payment processing companies and a sex-negative feminist interest group from Australia (not America), with some ties to TERF organizations. Yes, not great. Special-interest groups from other countries should not be able to have this much influence just because they tattled to a payment processing company. But just to be clear: This Australian radfem group is also not affiliated with the people in power in fascist governments, and the poem should not have been used. Yet people are acting like the federal government has struck down itch.io itself, and saying that this is an example of the mounting Halocaust. Fascism is rising in the U.S., but due to other, much more alarming factors and not this one.
I will be much more concerned when elected Republicans start going after a designated porn site, like Pornhub or something, to scrub out the queer content or to shutter it altogether. itch.io was never a designated pornography site to begin with and elected Republicans never set their sights on it.
So when you invoke the genocide poem, you really need to be asking, “Who is the they in this situation?” If it’s not a fascist government, I’m sorry, but it doesn’t apply and it’s offensive to the POCs, disabled, and trans people facing real problems in the U.S. right now.
Censorship is always the first step. Genocide is the last step. People getting mad when the first step toward fascism is crossed is a very good thing to fight fascism and try to prevent a future genocide. This is exactly what the poem is about : react on the first step, because it will be too late when the genocide starts.
In our administration, censorship wasn’t the first step though. I’m not sure why you think this set of events is the first step. The Trump Administration dismantled the Constitution and Administrative State earlier than this, and ICE disappearing people and Trump making anti-trans EOs predates this as well.
And it really seems like people on the internet care way more about the censorship than the much worse things happening right now.
Also, there are other places to find porn, so is censorship really happening in this case? You could sooner point to Paramount, 60 Minutes, NPR and The Late Show as examples of censorship, which also came after more extreme regime actions.
Finally someone mentions it. It’s just straight up gross to compare. But I will say people getting this mad isn’t as absurd when you have the backstory.
In the context of US; Gay, lesbian, or trans characters existing is enough to label a media under “porn” and states like Florida regularly ban lgbtq+ books using this loophole.
So a lot of people instinctively go on defensive when anyone bans porn.
Also full story wasn’t the business independently chosing to moderate. Another company told them to and game company had to comply.
People are mad an unrelated company out there is trying to regulate what you can’t buy with your money. It just feels weird.
Straight up wholly accurate and applicable. If you don’t understand that basic fact, maybe you need to hear it referenced a few more times…