My country has our own government operated, fast, simple and cheap payment method so now visa and mastercard are making the US government pressure us to destroy it
… Trump probably wants to get you on the crypto standard so he can make Bolsonaro coins a thing with a royalty to him. America is so fully mobbed up now, sanctioning judges…
What Americans tend to refer to as “fraud protection” is charge back policies, where the payment processor acts as Content Police and revert transactions if they hear the vendor was unfair to their customer (and they usually are on the side of the customer).
My EU bank won’t do that even on my credit card, because it’s insane that one would expect a financial institution to be judge, jury, and executioner in the case of a disagreement over legal services rendered.
Americans have to own up to the uncomfortable fact that dependence on these policies is what keeps the big credit cars companies in power, on top of severely driving up consumer prices (unfairly weighted towards the rich of course who get cashbacks thanks to the obscene money Visa makes on their enormous transaction fees) and being incredibly unfair to small vendors who don’t have the means to meaningfully dispute fraudulent chargebacks.
Banks can and absolutely do honor chargeback requests, though the terminology is usually different, even in the EU. But these are usually always honored (eg SDD Reversal or MOIs).
“Regular” SDDs can only be done within 5 business days apparently. Not that I would know, my bank certainly doesn’t offer a magic money back button to their private customers, and as I remember it my contract only allows transaction reversal in case of identity fraud, basically.
As far as I can tell, SDDs are a B2B-oriented tool that can only be initiated in particular circumstances such as a merchant being unable to fulfill an order altogether – i.e. when the legal case for a breach of contract is so unambiguous that it isn’t worth either party’s time to go to court. That’s very different from the American thinking of “my hotel room wasn’t as clean as I like it so I’m going to do a chargeback because that’s my Visa-given right”.
5 days is the period for a no-questions-asked reversal. It’s a consumer right, SDD isn’t just B2B. Banks do in fact offer a “magic money back” button for SDDs.
SDDs are what happens when you for example purchase an item (regular SDD) or a subscription (recurring SDD) online and provide your IBAN to the company providing it. The company then taking funds from your account with nothing but that IBAN is done through SDD. And yes, your bank will let you reverse that within 5 days, no questions asked (precisely because only an IBAN is required).
After 5 days, it’s still possible (eg through MOI) but that’s not guaranteed. I know this stuff because I deal with it professionally on a daily basis.
A lot of European countries have direct bank transactions streamlined, you scan a QR code and fraud is owned by the bank.
It’s ecen more secure than cards, since you can’t get double charged by the vendor.
My country has our own government operated, fast, simple and cheap payment method so now visa and mastercard are making the US government pressure us to destroy it
Which country?
Brazil
… Trump probably wants to get you on the crypto standard so he can make Bolsonaro coins a thing with a royalty to him. America is so fully mobbed up now, sanctioning judges…
What Americans tend to refer to as “fraud protection” is charge back policies, where the payment processor acts as Content Police and revert transactions if they hear the vendor was unfair to their customer (and they usually are on the side of the customer).
My EU bank won’t do that even on my credit card, because it’s insane that one would expect a financial institution to be judge, jury, and executioner in the case of a disagreement over legal services rendered.
Americans have to own up to the uncomfortable fact that dependence on these policies is what keeps the big credit cars companies in power, on top of severely driving up consumer prices (unfairly weighted towards the rich of course who get cashbacks thanks to the obscene money Visa makes on their enormous transaction fees) and being incredibly unfair to small vendors who don’t have the means to meaningfully dispute fraudulent chargebacks.
Banks can and absolutely do honor chargeback requests, though the terminology is usually different, even in the EU. But these are usually always honored (eg SDD Reversal or MOIs).
“Regular” SDDs can only be done within 5 business days apparently. Not that I would know, my bank certainly doesn’t offer a magic money back button to their private customers, and as I remember it my contract only allows transaction reversal in case of identity fraud, basically.
As far as I can tell, SDDs are a B2B-oriented tool that can only be initiated in particular circumstances such as a merchant being unable to fulfill an order altogether – i.e. when the legal case for a breach of contract is so unambiguous that it isn’t worth either party’s time to go to court. That’s very different from the American thinking of “my hotel room wasn’t as clean as I like it so I’m going to do a chargeback because that’s my Visa-given right”.
5 days is the period for a no-questions-asked reversal. It’s a consumer right, SDD isn’t just B2B. Banks do in fact offer a “magic money back” button for SDDs.
SDDs are what happens when you for example purchase an item (regular SDD) or a subscription (recurring SDD) online and provide your IBAN to the company providing it. The company then taking funds from your account with nothing but that IBAN is done through SDD. And yes, your bank will let you reverse that within 5 days, no questions asked (precisely because only an IBAN is required).
After 5 days, it’s still possible (eg through MOI) but that’s not guaranteed. I know this stuff because I deal with it professionally on a daily basis.
I’m cool with going around the system if it has become corrupt by enforcing censorship. We need a way for CryptoCurrency to become standard.