cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/43241710
And everyone thought registries were only for sex offenders. If it works to punish them then why not on those who don’t want to work?
cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/43241710
And everyone thought registries were only for sex offenders. If it works to punish them then why not on those who don’t want to work?
I am getting downvoted to hell and shouldn’t give these people the pleasure of knowing this but…
I have multiple times missed time with my wife and children because I wanted to get an important job filled by someone I was excited to hire. Who ghosted me.
And I am saying, people who casually waste other’s time and goodwill, should have a reputation that catches up with them, sooner rather than later, for the good of all.
What the fuck is wrong with people that I am the bad guy here, seriously
You shouldn’t neglect your children for your job, even if it doesn’t go wrong and you are rewarded (lol) for your efforts.
Keep them on normal working ours and it shouldn’t be an issue. They are not wasting your time, you are still getting paid unless you on some moronic payment scheme. You can argue they are wasting the company’s money but that’s just the cost of doing business.
But seriously if you actually have children, you should put them first. Anything else will make you a horrible person in a lot of people’s eyes. Worst case, scenario it will make them resent you.
Sure, wasting peoples time is awful and should be avoided (from both sides). The thing is, coming in saying that any government list/database is inherently evil, so let’s have private companies do it instead is a take that is bound to invite some very heated arguments.
An industry list is a system that (I believe) is ripe for abuse.
Some problems I can think of from the top of my head
Also, an industry blacklisting an individual does not have an even effect as a reciprocal list where companies with unfair hiring practices (such as ghost jobs that never get filled or ghosting applicants without explanation) get listed. If the effect would be the same (i.e. not being able to work in said field), then the sanction on a company would effectively be dissolution (difficult to run a company if you are not able to do any work in the field that your company specializes in).
I feel for you missing out on time with your family. I have myself also worked overtime because I was enthousiastic about a specific project or task, but part of choosing to work that overtime is accepting the risk that the time will not be successful or productive.
If this has happend multiple times, I would say, be less flexible in your planning, and don’t work overtime but spend time with your loved ones. (If you live in a jurisdiction where overtime is not defacto mandatory)
Say there is a pile of company time wasted by applicants and a pile of applicant time wasted by companies, then I think we both know which pile is bigger.
Doesn’t all this happen with a government list too? The problem is making a demerit list with parties that could be interested in abusing it. Is a government list going to be any more likely to verify that the reports are accurate?
I guess theoretically a government list is more beholden to the general public, but in reality that’s rarely how things actually play out. The whole reason this exists at all is because business has influence with politicians that regular voters don’t. It certainly isn’t a priority of the general voting population.
I am not saying that a government list like the one proposed in Ohio is good. I think it is terrible. But a list managed by an industry group where the keepers of the list are direct stakeholders of the list, while not beholdend to Freedom of Information requests, as suggested by the parent comment, is even worse.
Missing time with your family for work is an awful precedent to set. A lot of people don’t give a shit about their work and don’t care to let it take away from their life.
If I am interviewing, I’m going in with the mindset that I am selling my body/mind to the highest bidder for 8 hours a day, every day, for the foreseeable future. Any time outside of that, I am not thinking about the employer at all. If you and your company aren’t the highest bidder, you aren’t worth my time.
You sound transactional. Maybe you’ll be President
Work is transactional. I show up, they pay me. What else would it be? This is not how I view my life outside of work, my relationships, or my friendships. But work is 100% a transaction.