Copyright class actions could financially ruin AI industry, trade groups say.

AI industry groups are urging an appeals court to block what they say is the largest copyright class action ever certified. They’ve warned that a single lawsuit raised by three authors over Anthropic’s AI training now threatens to “financially ruin” the entire AI industry if up to 7 million claimants end up joining the litigation and forcing a settlement.

Last week, Anthropic petitioned to appeal the class certification, urging the court to weigh questions that the district court judge, William Alsup, seemingly did not. Alsup allegedly failed to conduct a “rigorous analysis” of the potential class and instead based his judgment on his “50 years” of experience, Anthropic said.

  • Catoblepas
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    52 days ago

    A source for LLMs not being conscious?? If you have evidence to the contrary a lot of people are about to get very excited.

    • @[email protected]
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      Honestly, I don’t care if it has consciousness or not, if there is a threat, it must be destroyed, or will you spare a wild beast that will then eat you just because it has consciousness?

      I’m just wondering, does it matter whether he suffers or not if we have a choice, either we kill or he kill us?

    • nickwitha_k (he/him)
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      62 days ago

      This. The burden of proof is on the extraordinary claim that LLMs are anything remotely like consciousness.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 days ago

      That’s a very interesting point I hadn’t thought about. I don’t know, you would need to define what consciousness is very carefully to make the claim that it isn’t I think. I actually read a lot about this, in the context of non human animal mostly, and there’s even growing evidence for insects being conscious so I don’t even know what to make of this.

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        Dude, in my opinion, almost every living and possibly non-living particle of the universe has its own consciousness, even if it’s not the kind you can imagine or understand.

          • @[email protected]
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            11 day ago

            That’s the point: what difference does it make whether an AI has consciousness or not? We don’t care about cattle, we just kill them, so why should we coddle an AI if it is also a threat?

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              11 day ago

              But that’s not what’s being discussed at all. It feels like you’re not following the comments well or maybe you’re not seeing all of them.

              The discussion was whether AI is creative or not, and whether its creativity is materially different from that of a human. Now because someone else brought up a very good blog post I’ve shifted my stance a little bit, because AI at this point is simply an extension of human creativity, so yes it does not matter whether it is conscious or not, it’s a tool. No one is coddling it, but this is like saying we should disappear guns from existence. A technology cannot be uninvented! I wish we could uninvent nukes for example, but we can’t and they still proliferate around the world no matter what the moral or legal posturing around them because if you don’t have them you are at a disadvantage therefore you need to have them or be at risk of being destroyed by your enemies.

              • @[email protected]
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                11 day ago

                Excellent position. As they say, if a problem can’t be solved, you need to make sure it doesn’t arise. But no, our capitalists decided to set up a concentration camp and that’s why they need AI to control everyone.

                I read other comments and responded to them, you can look at your previous ones for example