• priapus
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    4 days ago

    I mean, I’d imagine the goal is to avoid being mediocre.

    If Orion fully supports the Firefox extensions I use and is as privacy respecting as I expect, I’ll likely switch to it as soon as I can. I’m sick of Firefox prioritizing features very few people want.

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      94 days ago

      i don’t think it’s the browser for you if you care about privacy, it’s not even open source

      • priapus
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        23 days ago

        Open source =/= private. Chromium and Firefox are open source, and both have horrible privacy defaults. I have far more trust in Kagi than Mozilla or Google. There are many ways to verify privacy than other than reading the source code.

        Besides, they have shared that they plan to open source the browser once the project is ready, and some components are already open source. Making a project open-source is a much bigger task than people realize. While community contributions may take some maintenance load off of your staff, they now become responsible for much more external code review, which requires more scrutiny due to coming from outside sources.

        https://help.kagi.com/orion/faq/faq.html#oss

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          3 days ago

          how do you verify privacy without access to the source code? open source != privacy but open source helps a ton to verify it

          btw the kagi people have been saying they’ll open source it at some point for ages, and in my experience those promises are usually just promises. I’ll believe it when i see it

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            23 days ago

            They’ve been open sourcing parts of it the entire time. Looks to me like they’re doing what they said.

            You can easily monitor network connections to see what addresses its sending packets to. You can’t collect information without sending it somewhere. Run Firefox through a proxy, and you’ll see it is far from private. The source code will show you what they’re sending, but nothing about what they’re doing with it after it’s received.