In response to Wayland Breaks Your Bad Software

I say that the technical merits are irrelevant because I don’t believe that they’re a major factor any more in most people moving or not moving to Wayland.

With only a slight amount of generalization, none of these people will be moved by Wayland’s technical merits. The energetic people who could be persuaded by technical merits to go through switching desktop environments or in some cases replacing hardware (or accepting limited features) have mostly moved to Wayland already. The people who remain on X are there either because they don’t want to rebuild their desktop environment, they don’t want to do without features and performance they currently have, or their Linux distribution doesn’t think their desktop should switch to Wayland yet.

  • @[email protected]
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    12 years ago

    X11 has decades of tooling that doesn’t work on Wayland anymore.

    Wayland 1.0 was released in 2012, though.

    • Skull giver
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      12 years ago

      Yes, but Wayland just doesn’t implement some features that X11 supports. Virtual pointer/keyboard events for example, you’ll need to go through system wide inputs with elevated permissions. Global hotkeys are also a challenge for third party tooling.

      That’s not necessarily a bad thing, but it does break some workflows.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        That’s not necessarily a bad thing, but it does break some workflows.

        11 years after Wayland 1.0 and 7 years after Gnome 3.22 were released.

        • Skull giver
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          32 years ago

          Yes. 11 years after the majority of Linux users didn’t notice anything and stuck with X11, because X11 isn’t broken.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            11 years after the majority of Linux users didn’t notice anything and stuck with X11

            All major distributions default to Gnome Wayland since years and since last year’s Steam Deck release, even millions of super casual gamers use Wayland without even knowing what a display server is.