I watched the Palestinian Prime Minster last night refuse to condem the 7th. Dude, just what a sick fuck. He LITERALLY couldn’t say killing civilians is not okay. Sometimes I wonder who Israel is supposed to negotiate with, I mean this shitbag being warcrime adjacent can’t be any more helpful than the war criminal Bibi.
Speaking of, Hamas has over 1MM liters of fuel, and ample supplies of fresh water, that they refuse to distribute in Gaza. They also refuse to return hostages, which would also immediately lift the siege.
The reason they stockpiled so much is their tunnel ventilation systems run on generators (which is also the reason Israel is trying to deny them fuel, because tunnel fighting is a nightmare and that’s what is coming)
I mean we can copy the same comments to another over and over all day if ya want.
I’ve got 3 hrs til my plane boards
FWIW I’d strongly support a heavily-militarized aid station set up in the south but you know as well as I do that people would still blame Israel for Hamas gunning down people headed south.
You seem to think this crossing is like, a single street. It is not. It’s a misleading name the same way the “Palestinian refugees camps” are really modern cities of 100k people with permanent, concrete buildings the same as any other city.
The intentional misunderstanding you’re feigning is disgusting. There was literally one statement, you recall that Israel was attacked. And you inserted your own pro-Hamas dialogue to condem that instead of the attack.
Do you understand the disconnect?
You can be against the Israeli government’s war crimes AND against Hamas’ war crimes. Try it, having principals instead of an agenda is freeing and might feel good to you.
In the context of the guy asking if you remember that on the 7th Israel just suffered a horrific terrorist attack and instead of saying yes I remember it, I condemn it, and that was horrible. And following up with that doesn’t make it right for Israel to kill civilians either. Which is a statement I completely agree with.
Instead by refusing to acknowledge the question and just jumping to IDF war crimes, it reads like whataboutism.
I’m only explaining in case you genuinely care to communicate more clearly. Look we both agree that the 7th doesn’t excuse what’s happening now in Gaza. But it wasn’t clear that you condemn Hamas’ crimes because you ignored that guy’s question.
If you have problems with me saying ‘Isreal’s crimes are wrong’ without clarification about Hamas being bad as well then you should have first had problems with the guy saying “Hamas attacked Israel in the bloodiest assault in history”, implying everything Isreal is doing is morally permissible.
This person regularly engages in insidious faux-intellectual Islamaphobia and then hides behind a “hurr durr I also think Netanyahu bad, why do you love hamas so much” when pressed at all. Every single time I’ve seen them call out a specific user for antisemitism it’s been them conflating anti Zionism with antisemitism. It’s simultaneously excusing genocide and watering down antisemitism to being a meaningless term.
Forget the tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians that Israel has killed. Those don’t matter at all in the context of your very well thought out point.
Being one of the only lefties with common sense, I get ratio’d quite often. But I don’t need fake points from imaginary online friends to feel good about myself 😂
You recall that Hamas attacked Israel in the bloodiest assault in history, right?
You guys make me embarrassed to call myself a lefty.
Hamas doing something horrible doesn’t make it OK to starve the entirety of Gaza though, not everyone inside Gaza is Hamas
Palestine is protecting and aiding Hamas, though.
I watched the Palestinian Prime Minster last night refuse to condem the 7th. Dude, just what a sick fuck. He LITERALLY couldn’t say killing civilians is not okay. Sometimes I wonder who Israel is supposed to negotiate with, I mean this shitbag being warcrime adjacent can’t be any more helpful than the war criminal Bibi.
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Speaking of, Hamas has over 1MM liters of fuel, and ample supplies of fresh water, that they refuse to distribute in Gaza. They also refuse to return hostages, which would also immediately lift the siege.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-says-gaza-photos-show-half-million-liters-of-fuel-held-by-hamas/
Edit to add:
The reason they stockpiled so much is their tunnel ventilation systems run on generators (which is also the reason Israel is trying to deny them fuel, because tunnel fighting is a nightmare and that’s what is coming)
Here’s a great video with more info https://www.youtube.com/live/xfc0nHLgDuY?si=8P-MddAIFXsFt-mA
It’s not unreasonable to expect an enemy government to feed their people, rather than your country
I mean we can copy the same comments to another over and over all day if ya want.
I’ve got 3 hrs til my plane boards
FWIW I’d strongly support a heavily-militarized aid station set up in the south but you know as well as I do that people would still blame Israel for Hamas gunning down people headed south.
Down near the border crossing that Israel keeps bombing?
Yes. Hence “heavily militarized.”
You seem to think this crossing is like, a single street. It is not. It’s a misleading name the same way the “Palestinian refugees camps” are really modern cities of 100k people with permanent, concrete buildings the same as any other city.
Until it sinks in.
Enjoy eternity, because youre just factually wrong lol
(x) Doubt.
Well gee, that sure does give Isreal the right to do ethnic cleansing. It’s self defense after all so everything is permissible. /s
The intentional misunderstanding you’re feigning is disgusting. There was literally one statement, you recall that Israel was attacked. And you inserted your own pro-Hamas dialogue to condem that instead of the attack.
Do you understand the disconnect?
You can be against the Israeli government’s war crimes AND against Hamas’ war crimes. Try it, having principals instead of an agenda is freeing and might feel good to you.
Saying that Isreal shouldn’t be killing civilians and doing ethnic cleansing is not pro-Hamas.
Neither party should be doing those things.
I am.
Perhaps you could try not assuming the worst out of people you don’t know.
In the context of the guy asking if you remember that on the 7th Israel just suffered a horrific terrorist attack and instead of saying yes I remember it, I condemn it, and that was horrible. And following up with that doesn’t make it right for Israel to kill civilians either. Which is a statement I completely agree with.
Instead by refusing to acknowledge the question and just jumping to IDF war crimes, it reads like whataboutism.
I’m only explaining in case you genuinely care to communicate more clearly. Look we both agree that the 7th doesn’t excuse what’s happening now in Gaza. But it wasn’t clear that you condemn Hamas’ crimes because you ignored that guy’s question.
Cheers man
If you have problems with me saying ‘Isreal’s crimes are wrong’ without clarification about Hamas being bad as well then you should have first had problems with the guy saying “Hamas attacked Israel in the bloodiest assault in history”, implying everything Isreal is doing is morally permissible.
Dude, in RESPONSE to someone asking you about a horrific terrorist attack and war crimes by Hamas.
If you really don’t understand, I don’t know how to help you. And if you’re just trolling, I’m done feeding. I tried to help you.
Why do you pretend everybody is stupid? People know the history. They know the attack didn’t happen in a vacuum. They can also think it’s bad.
As a result of this they can tell when somebody is doing atrocity propaganda to defend and aid in Israel’s impunity to kill thousands of Palestinians.
This person regularly engages in insidious faux-intellectual Islamaphobia and then hides behind a “hurr durr I also think Netanyahu bad, why do you love hamas so much” when pressed at all. Every single time I’ve seen them call out a specific user for antisemitism it’s been them conflating anti Zionism with antisemitism. It’s simultaneously excusing genocide and watering down antisemitism to being a meaningless term.
It’s blatant, embarassing, and morally bankrupt.
The pot calling the kettle black
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I don’t support Hamas.
No, I’m just against ethnic cleansing, which is what Isreal is currently doing and getting billions of dollars in support for.
Isreal shouldn’t be doing ethnic cleansing, nor should Hamas.
It’s really a sign of intelligence to assume things of people you don’t know and have only ever spoken to on the internet.
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Israel is doing ethnic cleansing. They’ve been doing it for 50+ years.
The Gaza population has doubled in the last 20 years. If they are doing ethnic cleansing they’re doing a really bad job at it
Meanwhile Jews are banned from almost all Muslim countries
If your knowledge of this conflict only goes back ~50 years, then there’s lots of cool and interesting history you can study! I encourage it.
Please keep insulting me. I’m becoming so convinced you’re right.
Yep you sure showed that guy which person here is the moron… /S
No one here is supporting Hamas. We support PALESTINE.
Bloodiest assault in history? You have to be joking.
Uhh yeah? This is the bloodiest attack Palestine has ever done against Israel. Are you stunned? 😂
Apologists and justifications ARE support for Hamas. Pretending otherwise is intellectually disingenuous, or outright intentionally dishonest.
Forget the tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians that Israel has killed. Those don’t matter at all in the context of your very well thought out point.
Moved the goalposts and you’re still wrong.
I’m demonstrably right though 😂
Wrong and ratio’d
Being one of the only lefties with common sense, I get ratio’d quite often. But I don’t need fake points from imaginary online friends to feel good about myself 😂
“Everyone I meet is an asshole”
Aww you’re even downvoting my comments 😂