They have to differentiate from long Tv show episodes. Some TV show episodes are over 2 hours long already. @chickenwing

I prefer to watch films that are good to great, no matter the time as long as the artists know how to use the time well and make the work worth to watch. There is fantastic works that span the whole spectrum, from short films to lenghy films, and there is trash all the way too (Some director compared it to paintings, that range from tiny papers to whole walls). If we really think about it, any anthology series like Black Mirror and The Twilight Zone 1959 are just a collection of short films that share a theme, some recurring stage crew, and etc. If i am short on literal time, i have no problem stopping and taking multiple sections to watch a film (purists have some point that it loses a little of the impact some times, but most of the time it really does not).

I think it is 2 reasons for the trend:

• Cinema-at-home technologies just keeps getting so much better all the time, and it is already pretty great. Streaming and 80 inch 4K OLED TVs are just the latest iteration of a process started in the 1950s with tube TVs, and if VR-AR glasses popularize they will be the next. Cinema Studios and Cinema-at-theater companies had to invent new immersive technologies and art forms to stay competitive, from the rectangle screen form (16:9) until IMAX 4-D etc. They also artificially benefited the cinema-at-theater by having the release window schedule (3 months in theaters, another 6 months to dvd, 1-2 years to tv, etc), that has been diminushed but it still exists (6 weeks to 2 months in theaters i think), and in our FOMO infested culture this might make theaters stay in the long run in some form or another. But overall, home has never been such a sweet place to watch cinema.
• The endless rat-race to keep cinema-at-theater competitive with cinema-at-home has eventually made that only Blockbusters in high tecnology cinemas are attractive enough to most people, and to pay for all this sensorial spectacle that ranges from the theaters to the films themselves, the scale of capital costs in the whole industry has just risen to the roof, and now the tickets are usually very expensive (and foods drinks etc). The average consumer in turn, feels that going to a film in a theater has to be WORTH it, has to be better than home and has to compensate for the high ticket (and foods etc) price. This means that films have to be a Spectacle that is highly sensorial and lasts a lot of time to become a memorable Event in the persons day, week or month. So, longer run times.

There is a cinema industry that is already more advanced in these characteristics: it’s Bollywood, with the Masala genre (i.e. a spectacle that has to please the whole family, and they include at least some romance action drama dance music in every film) and many hours of lengh (4hr is not unusual). Because the average indian is poor, and they go to the cinema rarely, so the indian studios have to make it worth it, an Event for the whole family, like Hollywood has to now. There is also something of a Music Show vibe, where the audience cheers and claps when the stars appears on screen, and actively engages with the film throughout (booing a vilain , lamenting a death scene, etc), it reminds me of the marvel spider man 3, but times 10 and all the time, it’s a cinema-at-theater experience also unmatched by home, because of the collective element. Maybe Bollywood is the mirror that Hollywood has to emulate now, instead of the other way.

Guns gotten mintier lately. Have you noticed?

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It makes sense that they are getting longer doesn’t it?

It has gotten easier to film more, with digital storage of the film. It has gotten easier to edit. It has gotten easier to transport bigger films around the world.

So with it becoming easier to make longer movies, why wouldn’t the makers use that to do more story telling in their movies?

Should maybe the movies then take in to account that people watching the movies might want a break, and make the movies with an intermission intended? sure.

Looks like I’m just never watching the right movies. My default understanding is that a movie will be 2hrs long, give or take 12 minutes for the credits. It’s felt like they’ve been trending shorter to me for about a decade now, and I’ve not been happy about it. Renfield was shockingly good compared to what I expected it to be, but even then, the character development could really have benefitted a lot from that missing 30 minutes.

This is something i’ve been thinking for a while… whilst some movies i’m really glade to see have a 2 hour plus run time… i grew up when movies were 1 1/2 hours… standard… you could sit down, pick any VHS and know you’d be done in an hour and a half…

I don’t go to the cinema much, but the last time i did was to see the sparkly vampire playing Batman… my fucking god that was a long movie to be sat there for…

I do wonder if it’s anything to do with the binge watching that streaming services have brought about for tv shows… but even then for some reason i’d rather sit and watch 3 episodes of something rather than a 3 hour movie… maybe it’s pacing or the way the story is structured.

To be fair on the two part movies, Dune was designed to be two parts (and it kinda fits the story). Across the spider-verse is more of a empire strikes back type of situation of setting everything up for the next film.

I mean, if they can justify their lenght go for it. The problem is when movies overstay their welcome.

I’ve noticed that over the years without actually making a list like that. I don’t know why the trend is moving to longer movies, I could guess. Maybe film makers are trying to give people more for their money with the high cost of theater tickets. Or maybe it’s because more people watch from home where length is less of an issue. You don’t have to watch a film in one sitting.

Keep in mind when movies are made there’s a lot of footage that ends up on the cutting room floor. I’ve noticed these longer movies are more liberal with the editing. They have a good amount of footage that simply doesn’t need to be there. Could be they’re including less relevant scenes due to more relaxed requirements from producers.

I’ve always thought you could take a six hour mini-series and boil it down to a two hour movie. It’s all a matter of editing and most of the time less is more.

Oh, the first time I saw a two part theatre release was Matrix 2. That made me so angry because they left it hanging like a serial TV episode. I went to the theatre for that one and paid the premium. I was really mad I paid my nickel and was left hanging like that. I still watched the the third release, but at home following the second one. By the time the third was out and came to DVD, I didn’t remember the second. It was basically a five hour movie.

Fewer people going? So they don’t have to squeeze as many screenings in as before? 🤷‍♂️

Most animated films clock in around 70 minutes traditionally.

20 years ago, give or take 10, VHS video tapes were a major form factor for films and entertainment at home. Of course you could record for 8 hours at trash quality but you could get 2 hours at better quality. So to best accommodate films for VHS they cut them down to 2 hours max (118 mins was a frequent runtime for adult movies and 88 mins for kids movies).

I believe Peter Jackson has a lot to answer for in this regard. I feel like the LotR films were the watershed films for longlongfilm acceptance, and they are actually worth the watch in their longest forms.

But then The Hobbit films happened. I remember feeling that 3 films sounded ridiculous and that they were all unnecessarily long considering the length of the book and, compared to the original trilogy, they were rather horrible to look at.

This is why I haven’t seen “The Irishman” yet. I like Scorsese, it has a great cast, and I’ve heard good things about the movie, but I can’t find the time to sit down for three and a half hours.

Between work, kids, and just generally trying to keep on top of stuff it leaves little time to commit to a film that long. Recently I’ve been just watching series’. It’s easy to watch an hour long episode, or two, than to strap in for a really long movie.

I have a long list of movies I’ve been “meaning to catch up on”, but the trend of longer runtimes is making that list longer and longer.

I think its a combination of TV getting better, audiences expecting more and the decline of cinemas.

GOT showed that if you have a truly grand idea you can make billions with a tv show. Audiences want more than the old school “This guy is bad, this guy is good” storylines and who cares if its 3 hours long when most people have 60 inch 5k displays and can pause whenever they want.