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I can’t believe this is anything other than fishing for engagement.
Which means it’s time for you to switch to Linux
Looks like a Chromebook, which means Linux would be a bit hacky and not guaranteed to work well at all.
it’s gotten a LOT less hacky now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6oyqrrXTLM
VeronicaExplains and not linking to the Peertube video? That’s a paddlin’
Nice! I gave up on Chromebooks after google screwed me over, but back then it was all very much an improvised hack to get Linux on them.
Glad to see that progress has been made!
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Chromebooks are actually Linux.
Yeah not not standard Linux distributions. Getting standard Linux to work requires a bunch of messing with drivers
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, Google/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Chrome plus Linux.
Ah, the CNG distro. Chrome’s Not GNU.
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It’s arm right? Just fiddle a bit with the bootloader and that’s it. Similar to Andorided phones
It likely will work, but may not work 100%. It really depends on how popular this laptop is, and how well-supported it is in the linux community.
Pretty sure you could still update manually.
Linux gang raise!
I use Fedora btw
m’OS
I use Qubes btw
A chromebook? You can install Linux then.
Fuck chrome
Does it still supported by Chrome OS Flex?
Asus 202c from 2016. They’re EoL, so they don’t get chrome OS updates. Which means the Play Store is also outdated.
Overall, they’re pretty nifty. Battery life is still solid. Keyboard and case is pretty durable.
I actually have a few of these chromebooks! (You can buy them from schools) I’ve reformatted one with Linux. Another is Chromebook + side loaded for coding. This one is just for browsing and taking notes.
But just the thought that some old person buying a computer and going, “Lemme pick up these Google Things that are $100” only to end up with these errors makes me sad.
Maybe an unpopular opinion around here, but getting 8 years out of a $200 laptop is a fucking steal.
I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect more.
Had this been a $1200 laptop, the expectation would be different.
For me it’s not about the price, it’s about owning your hardware in ways that allow you to easily install whatever you want. As for chromebooks, that’s not the case and you need to hack your way around. In the case of phones, many vendors don’t allow unlocking the bootloader. This kind of practices means that in many cases, completely useful (maybe old) hardware goes to the dumpster.
This device looks to be supported by the custom firmware project over here: https://mrchromebox.tech
Basically it allows you to replace the stock firmware and just run regular ol’ Linux, entirely replacing ChromeOS.
There’s also a pretty good video outlining most of the process here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6oyqrrXTLM
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Running xfce4 Fedora brilliantly on an old Dell Chromebook thanks to this, fully recommended!!
I’m pretty sure two gru_bob and gru_kevin have Libreboot support. I forget the name of the exact laptops, it should be in their documentation
I use this bios on CN62 Chromeboxes as an alternative to a Raspberry Pi; it’s faster, can be found cheaper, is available widely on ebay cheap, has proper NVME ports, and has an X86 processor. They make great little reverse proxies, etc.
Something something linux profit?
You mean there’s not still a team of developers working full time to make sure your 8 year old hardware is still getting software/security parity? Color me shocked. Shocked I say! They should support your hardware for free forever! How dare they advance in such a way that it’s not possible for my 8 year old hardware to run the exact same as modern hardware that’s been updated and iterated hundreds of times since then.
I have 11 years old phone that still gets updates. For free. And all my computers will have updates for ever. For free.
what kind of phone is getting updates that long?
You’d be surprised at what the custom ROM communities manage to achieve. The Galaxy S3 (not 23, I really mean S3) can run Android 11 or 12.
It’s no surprise, if the hardware can take it then why not? It should be the default. Maybe the current EU can tackle all this built-in obsolescence from Big Tech.
The real surprise is people devoting their free time in maintaining those communities, kudos to them. Eventually my current phone will get Lineage.
Galaxy S4, (was) officially supported by LineageOS :)
oh dope. I’m on graphene run, so I think that gives me 7 years, but 11 is impressive. any idea how long they plan on supporting it? also, is that your daily? I feel like a phone that old would be quite slow by now.
My daily is Pixel 7a with GrapheneOS. Galaxy S4 is my mom’s old old old phone. I have no idea how. On lineageos wiki it says that this device is not maintained anymore, but a month ago I got a system update. It’s on Linegae 18.
Google can choose to not update the operating system but I don’t see why the browser is left behind.
Google supported chrome on windows 7 longer than Microsoft itself, they can’t do it on their own Linux distro?
Today I’ll update my Chrome version in my 2013 media box desktop running Debian in honour of your terribly written comment!
Came here to recommend nuking it with Linux to get a much slicker experience but I see everyone else had the same idea.
Also gtf off chrome.
Have you tried Firefox?
God damn furrys! :p
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Not trying to be the fifth dentist here, but at some point all devices reach the end of life. While I’m sure it’s possible for you to install Chrome OS Flex, or some other kind of Linux, at some point isn’t it just time to buy a new computer?
Until George R.R. Martin gives up his DOS computer, then there’s never an excuse to upgrade so long as the machine you use can perform the actions you ask of it!
Sure, but by making that decision George also had to accept he can’t install the latest version of Chrome. Maybe George is ok with that, but OP isn’t.
I heard without DOS George can’t write another book.
Ok, but the only action George needs to perform on it is to not write a book. I don’t even need a computer to do that.
As long as computer works why replace it?
You need Linux then
Already have Linux. 😊
It depends really. If you need to use old software or hardware, then no. I have some automotive tools that don’t need the greatest PC to run and I’d rather not mess up my installation of the software they need to work, so I have an ancient Thinkpad with windows 8 on it that I can boot up and use for diagnostics. I just maxed out the ram and put in an SSD so it runs halfway decent.
“At some point” yeah. But that point though… Must not be 8 years
Install Linux and have updates for the Rest of your life. And more performance.
Edit: typo
It already has Linux, that’s the issue.
I have a Chromebook and it’s ridiculous how difficult they made it to install another OS.
I eventually did, but I needed to get something to flash a third party boatloader and at first I was told my laptop was not supported.
But getting an actual Linux distro has been so much better than ChomeOS.
thankfully, once you get a proper UEFI bios on it, it’s free, forever.
But yeah, i agree, total bullshit how much work they put into not using UEFI from the get go lmao.
I didn’t think it too hard but it ended up being kind of fruitless, those things have almost no harddeive and I mostly did it to fuck around with Linux. Chromebooks, at least that one, had something like 16gbs and equally weak CPU to match (granted it might have changed since then but woof.)
The whole point of a chrome book is to push you to use Google’s online services. I think you are still better off if you can do that with Linux running the machine.
Same, I did this back in college because my Windows laptop shit out and I couldn’t afford another proper computer. I ended up duct taping an external drive to the back.
Back when I had a Chromebook I actually had to open it up and remove a screw to be able to do it.
The new chromebooks need special cables to unlock, either you have the skills and supplies to build a cable and adapter board or you buy a cable from a random company that is rarely in stock
Wow that’s even worse.
The droid restraining bolt?
Yeah. Write protect screw.
No Cap, I used to have an old HP Pavillion where the case had to be pried apart for servicing and there was a screw on the Battery connector that would keep the computer from starting unless it was put back after battery removal. They work fine without batteries, but not without the screw. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
i hate that this is now the future of computing
It wouldn’t be lemmy if this was not the top comment
It’s a Chromebook. That’s just the real answer to OP’s issue regardless of where they ask about it.
Right. If it’s not getting updates, then it’s only a matter of time before it has a critical security vulnerability. If not Linux, then what? Will GNU Hurd run on it?
I don’t usually like all the Linux posts on Lemmy, but this is 100% the correct answer here. The computer will likely run a lot better if you do everything right!
False. They’re dropping support for 20+ year old cpus like it doesn’t even matter!
Do you want to maintain that?
Big tech wins yet again. Soon you’ll need at least a Pentium 1 to run the Linux kernel.
That is real enshitification!
In practice, you tend to need something not too out of date. Just about any distro ships with internationalization support, and the fact is that it takes a lot of RAM to do that. A Pentium 1 may not support enough.
I did an install on a Pentium II a few years ago. I used Debian 2.2. Since I had used it back in the day, it seemed easier than finding something more modern that would work.
In reality, only some Pentium 1 compatible motherboards can support enough ram for you to actually run Linux on a Pentium 1. Even if you don’t run into ram problems, you’ll run into bios related problems. I would suggest anyone trying this in 2024 to not even attempt it unless you can get a socket 7, and preferably a later socket 7 motherboard at that. The closest thing I can come up with to a reason not to drop support for 486 (the cpu before the Pentium 1) is that a 486 is a lot more possible to put on a custom pcb than a Pentium 1. Some of the more basic arm cpus aren’t even as powerful as an upper tier 486 (but better arm cpus aren’t that hard for hobbyists to get). Anyone die-hard enough to want to try to run Linux on a fully custom made computer like that would have better results using an arm or risc-V chip instead.
I am curious why they’re dropping support for 486 but not Pentium 1, pentium 2 and anything not capable of SSE1 or later. mmx isn’t even that good but I guess gcc does technically support it.
I wonder if they’re going to drop 486 support in gcc as well. It can still compile for 386. You have to seriously strip down the kernel to run Linux on anything that old. Maybe 486 users (all 2 of them) should switch to Temple OS.
You may find this interesting:
Ubuntu is nearly 20 years old so we wanted to see how the first versions compare with the upcoming LTS. Unfortunately installing Warty turned out to much harder than we thought it would be.
You can still run it. It’s just slightly more inconvenient.
there crappy things are basically made to be thrown away, they’re not even supposed to outlive their software support range.
