we almost built a really fucking big collider in the US somewhere in the middle of fuck off land texas.
It died.
Yep, that was when the US jumped the shark. It was the exact moment, Oct 20, 1993, we went “fuck science, we’re only doing short term profits now.”
well i mean to be fair, it was also on a really big boon of massive military spending, and the debt was a significant problem, plus this was like a fucking massive collider for the time, and probably even now.
The sheer cost alone of it i think was like 20 billion dollars near the tail end of development, not to mention they had basically redesigned the entire fucking thing by that point since they had dropped an entire team. It was a fucking mess.
Right! Think of those quarters’ balance sheets!
Scientific progress? Peoples bonuses were on the line
Edit: it’s good that our government protected America and left innovation to Europe
yeah unfortunately the public and government just weren’t very perceptive to a massive scientific project which would almost certainly many times overrun the budget outlined for it. Socioeconomics are hard…
As one might guess, the republicans canceled it
By accident, which is just straight-up embarrassing. They voted the wrong way by accident and then never fixed it.
Really?!
Sometime after the 30 minute mark NDT bitches about it.
Haven’t heard of that but i definitely saw debate with R congressman saying basically “why should US pay for it let’s let Europe pay for it”
This would have created a strong science hub and community in Texas, a real reason for the state to be proud of itself, looking towards the future like it did in the 1960s, and that was due to the Democrats with LBJ.
Now instead, they got assault rifle-totin’, shit-kicking knuckle-draggers for life, as the whole place builds up inertia sinking into a festering swamp of its’ own ignorance.yeah, would be interesting to see the alternate universe where it was finished and built…
There would have been t-shirts
EVERYTHING’S BIGGER IN TEXAS
INCLUDING SUPERCOLLIDERSWould we have never heard the end of republicans bitching and whining about the cost and “our taxpayer dollars” and all that idiocy?
Who knows, considering Texan lawmakers carry an outsized weight in the republican party, and this project meant thousands upon thousands of skilled, high-paying jobs, including creating large new communities populated by scientists from all over the world.
Then after beating CERN to the punch to first detect the Higgs Boson, they would have draped themselves in the flag while chanting USA, USA, USA…
But ignorance and myopia are the horses pulling the republican cart.
gotta love politics, only the most interesting of all the boring fields put together!
We fucked, we need 60s back (with all the mindset).
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
It only took a couple decades for that whole greedy evil movement to dictate such big decisions.
The Apollo 14 moon landing?
Stairway to Heaven?
I bet the US public would vote to fund it if we actually called it Fucking Big Collider and it was the largest in the world.
oh for sure.
That’d be the easiest vote of my life tbh
you’re telling me i can shitpost with 20 billion dollars? Don’t mind if i yes!
Yes absolutely.
There was an auto-body shop in that town all ready to go…Super Collider Collison Repair
Rip small aoto-body business sign.
Probably have a ton of tunnel builders unemployed over there
Not for long!
Just make one big enough that you can use billionaires instead of atomic particles
Do billionaires split apart into multiple millionaires, and anti-tax neutrinos?
I may be an anti billionaire
Were you created when a billionaire formed in a high energy event?
That’s only in the movies. In reality they just completely evaporate. Usually they just evaporate. They take up a lot of volume but aren’t terribly filling.
/s
You just aren’t cooking yours right
There’s only one way to find out.
No its like when sonic dies and all his rings spilled out
I really like where this is going, keep talking
or invent a board with a nail in it for that iono
How else will we transmogrify enough souls to create a philosopher stone — I mean do science stuff?
Daily reminder that the World Wide Web was invented at CERN, so somewhere around the LHC highlighted in the picture. Who knows what the next big random innovation will be.
Come on anti-photons!
Not sure if this is just playing with the fact that a photon could be considered its own antiparticle in quantum field theory or if I missed the joke. Please, enlighten me.
It’s true tho. We need them bigger bois!
Starting to be suspicious like an alchemy circle around multiple cities…
Just waiting for the right solar eclipse.
Nah, it’s just the sloppy creation of The One Ring, without elven craftmanship to keep things down to wearable size.
That, or they’re building a stone giant’s cock ring.
Perhaps with a big collider we’ll finally be able to get confirmation on the cause of sinking soufflés - the bigon!
Maybe we could convince the military that they are rail guns. Yeah, it’s rail gun research, and it will finally result in the defeat of those…other guys.
Of course, it will never work because they only trust a few companies like Lockheed to do their dirty stuff.
I mean, if you’re making a railgun, maybe superconducting magnets would be useful tech to have 🤔
The way it’s typed out makes it sound like a Vince Russo quote lol
And I think it’s beautiful.
I just think it’s neat
420km collider, when?
2069
4096?
2^12?
22 billion is just a drop in the bucket to the Committee of 300 on their path to world domination.
First, you try to defend your country. Then, you want to have some advantage for a safety margin. Then, bigger advantage “just in case”. This military play is what is really addictive.
I feel like this should be required watching for anyone who wants to better understand colliders and the politics around them. BobbyBroccoli made this series on the development of some of them.
Also that West Wing episode where a physicist is trying to get funding for our Collider and the staffer is like “what does it do? What practical applications does it have?” and the physicist says none. It’s practical application is discovery. That we discovered penicillin on accident not when we were researching practical applications of injections.
I don’t want to learn science from someone named BobbyBroccoli.
How about Robby Ravioli instead?
Bold claim from a monkey puppet, jk. I’ve watched his channel it’s really good. I found the videos on the collider to be really interesting.
Bold claim from a monkey puppet
Bill Nye is literally just called the science guy and we got invaluable information from him.
Well maybe I’ll call up Broccoli Man if I need info on Broccoli
How convenient; you won’t be learning science! You’ll be learning history!
Yay!
Of course it was fucking Reagan.
Hopefully without lube.
If scientists had their way they’d have built the big one first. Or at least something reasonably larger than what they have… it’s politics that is capitalism and war that is the addiction preventing us from having nice things
I think the experience of building the previous smaller ones helped though. I think if you just go for the large one, it will probably fail or overrun the budget and we’ll have nothing to show for the money spent.
Ah you mean unlike the many other wisely spent tax money and private investments which turned out to be something to show for? /s
The microwave at the Future Gadgets Lab is about to experience one hell of an upgrade.
