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Flying Squid to [email protected]English • 1 year ago

Evolution of Hokusai's "Great Wave" (1792-1831)

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Evolution of Hokusai's "Great Wave" (1792-1831)

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Flying Squid to [email protected]English • 1 year ago
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  • Nakedmole
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    17•1 year ago

    Very interesting, I have never seen the earlier versions before. I wonder why I can’t find a Fuji in two of those, because The Great Wave is part of a “Views of Mt. Fuji” series.

    • @[email protected]
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      4•1 year ago

      Well, notice the final version does include Fuji. For some reason OP neglected to post it, so here: Sea is for Cookie

      (and yes, this was a random encounter!)

      • Nakedmole
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        2•1 year ago

        Hahaha, I love it!

    • @[email protected]
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      5•1 year ago

      Painted on cloudy days.

      • Nakedmole
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        Lol, that would be such a troll move in a series of Fuji paintings. As far as I known Hokusai painted mainly two things, landscapes including Mt. Fuji and explicit porn scenes. He was a trained Mt. Fuji Painter, which is a respected craft with a specialized apprenticeship in Japan btw.

        • @[email protected]
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          1•1 year ago

          deleted by creator

  • @[email protected]
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    26•1 year ago

    But which way are the pictures displayed?

    1 2 
    3 4
    
    1 3
    2 4
    
    • @[email protected]
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      Right to left, top to bottom

      3 1

      4 2

    • @[email protected]
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      4•1 year ago

      Left right top bottom, like how we read. You can see a pretty linear evolution in the style.

      • Ech
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        2•1 year ago

        I think that’s the intended way too, but it’s not exactly a given as other languages have different reading patterns. Japan, for instance, reads right to left, and others read vertically.

        • @[email protected]
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          3•1 year ago

          Yea but this is in English made for an English community. It’s pretty safe to assume.

    • @[email protected]
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      34•1 year ago

      Top left is going to be first, bottom right is last. Since bottom left is pretty close in structure to bottom right, I’m going with top left, top right, bottom left, bottom right.

      That fits the reading pattern of western cultures.

    • Tar_Alcaran
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      2•1 year ago

      Well if it’s japanese, I’d say option B…

      But the paintings look more like A is correct.

      • @[email protected]
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        If it’s Japanese if should go

        3 1

        4 2

        • @[email protected]
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          Good point! I haven’t been reading enough manga to remember it’s from the right to the left …

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_writing_system

    • @[email protected]
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      2•1 year ago

      I believe this is a screenshot of a Twitter post, which would make the order your first example.

  • @[email protected]M
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    64•1 year ago

    Hey, I’m going to leave this up since it’s aroused interest, but for future reference, HistoryPorn is for photographs. HistoryDrawings or HistoryArtifacts would be more appropriate for this kind of content.

    • @[email protected]
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      87•1 year ago

      Lemmy isn’t really big enough yet to support small communities like that. Reddit needed to make super niche communities because it’s so busy.

      • ddh
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        16•1 year ago

        Clearly this belongs in HistoryDrawingsOfJapaneseWater

    • @[email protected]
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      8•1 year ago

      removed by mod

    • Flying SquidOP
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      40•1 year ago

      I apologize. It’s been too long since I read the rules in the sidebar.

      • @[email protected]M
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        27•1 year ago

        No worries! I’m always happy to see contributions, just letting you know for future reference.

      • @[email protected]
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        19•1 year ago

    • @[email protected]
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      8•1 year ago

      What about actual historical works of pornography?

      • @[email protected]M
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        1•1 year ago

        HistoryArtifacts for porn etched on some artistic physical medium, HistoryDrawings for reconstructions of pornographic historical scenes, HistoryPorn for photographic porn?

      • @[email protected]
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        Autochrome 1907-1912

        Like this?

        Bluffing IMO.

        1907/1912 Autochrome photograph.

    • @[email protected]
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      1 year ago

      Would you mind linking to the other instances?

      Didn’t know I would need to subscribe to multiple families of a history porn 😅

      • @[email protected]M
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        10•1 year ago

        They’re in the sidebar, but

        https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected]

        https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected]

        • @[email protected]
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          6•1 year ago

          Each of theese communities is averaging between 1 post a week and one post a month, why not combine them into one community that could be getting 3 posts a week?

          • @[email protected]
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            2•1 year ago

            Yeah, this is just needless pedantism and ego-stroking.

  • @[email protected]
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    1•1 year ago

    TIDAL WAVE FROM GD REFERENCE???

  • @[email protected]
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    7•1 year ago

    Well that first wave is fucking tiny.

    • @[email protected]
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      11•1 year ago

      That’s the OK wave. Followed by the decent wave, then the pretty good wave. The last one is the great wave.

    • @[email protected]
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      3•1 year ago

      Maybe the great wave is death in his eyes?

  • @[email protected]
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    16•1 year ago

    That 3rd one brings out the thalassophobia in me. Think it’s the dark color and odd shape of the wave.

    • @[email protected]
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      2•1 year ago

      What sophia?

  • @[email protected]
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    5•1 year ago

    Through this, we can conclude that Hokusai was the first Benjamin Button, due to his perspective getting shorter each time

  • @[email protected]
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    26•1 year ago

    But but AI could do it better and it’s not even ten years old yet!!!

    Also the waves would have titties

    • @[email protected]
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      7•1 year ago

      And seven fingers

      • @[email protected]
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        3•1 year ago

        Then you need 3 titties to match

    • @[email protected]
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      20•1 year ago

      Also the waves would have titties

      Well I’m sold

  • BarqsHasBite
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    3•1 year ago

    Context?

    • @[email protected]
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      9•1 year ago

      The Japanese artist Hokusai and his art. The last painting is quite famous but most of us haven’t seen the pieces that helped him develop his style along the way.

      • Deconceptualist
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        These are actually woodblock prints, not paintings. But yes Hokusai was one of the great masters of the technique. The art style here from the Edo period is called Ukiyo-e, or “floating world” / “transient world”.

    • @[email protected]
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      1•1 year ago

      https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_wave

  • @[email protected]
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    89•1 year ago

    note that Japanese read pictures from right to left, while Western readers read left to right. Westerners view the last image as an awesome wave and usually miss the boats, while Japanese viewers relate to the boats first and then feel how doomed they are.

    • @[email protected]
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      36•1 year ago

      I never imagined how this would apply to images. Fascinating! I wonder what other art has a totally different tone to native RTL readers.

      • modifier
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        25•1 year ago

        I learned this from hentai

        • modifier
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          27•1 year ago

          I mean manga

          • @[email protected]
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            10•1 year ago

            Sure

            • modifier
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              2•1 year ago

              But to be serious for a moment, I just happen to be watching The Great War Of Archimedes right now and it is only now dawning on me how much of the action takes place from right to left.

              Now, I believe this film was based on a Manga, so it is less surprising that it would inherently adopt that visual language, but now I am going to be watching all Japanese cinema more closely to see how fundamentally RTL impacts the approach to film making.

        • littleblue✨
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          1•1 year ago

          Switching hands doesn’t count.

    • @[email protected]
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      11•1 year ago

      Well now I’m just confused about how I am supposed to read the image. Like… It’s numbered 1 2 3 4. Is that top left to bottom right? Which one is the “last” one? Which one is the “first” one?

      I could probably just look it up, but ehh.

    • @[email protected]
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      63•1 year ago

      Dude, I’ve never noticed the boats.

    • @[email protected]
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      4•1 year ago

      How could you miss the 3 boats?

      • @[email protected]
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        2•1 year ago

        try flipping the picture horizontally, its a very different experience

        • littleblue✨
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          1•1 year ago

          So, the mariners’ perspective, then?

        • @[email protected]
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          1•1 year ago

          …still 3 boats.

          • @[email protected]
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            1•1 year ago

            deleted by creator

      • @[email protected]
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        6•1 year ago

        Wait that’s 2 more fuckin boats? Wth!

        Anything else you wanna add? Is there a dragon somewhere I’m not seeing as well

        • @[email protected]
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          3•1 year ago

          Yes… BEHIND YOU!

  • @[email protected]
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    17•1 year ago

    Huh. Started at waist high and ended as five times Mount Fuji.

    • @[email protected]
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      2•1 year ago

      You’re probably one of those that missed the (3) boats.

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